A New Twist on Racism in Sport

[xkatz]

Prejudice is only unacceptable when the other guy is practicing it.

 

[HiddenDjinn]

No...
THIS....IS.....SPARTA!!!!

 

[darkendless]

I'm glad this thread was started.

We can finally get to resolving issues in the Middle East.

Haha I know right. Chelsea FC are the new peace deal breakers

 

[darkendless]

If you can explain why the term "racism" is appropriate
in the thread title, by all means, do so. As was mentioned
earlier, the reaction of the crowd is probably not
directed at the specific player.

Yeh my bad. I copied my thread title from comments from Fox Sports Australia where the word racism is used.

Not so friendly for Chelsea star | EPL | Fox Sports

I don't know if the page will work outside Australia.

 

[Kathryn]

Dem soccer fans, dey be crazy. Dem Saints fans, dey be beaujolais.

 

[Flankerl]

If you can explain why the term "racism" is appropriate
in the thread title, by all means, do so. As was mentioned
earlier, the reaction of the crowd is probably not
directed at the specific player.

He is a jew. Jews are ethno religious people.
So why is it racism? You really dont see it?

He also didnt go there to represent the state of israel but his football club.

I'm not sure I understand your point. Perhaps you could suggest some examples and indicate why they are important.

The insults of the "fans" are racist because he is a jew. Or they should have made their "protest" against the state of israel clear. They didnt. They just attacked the player. We have to assume because he is jewish as he didnt represent the state of israel but his football club.

 

[Tamar]

How do you know if it's not for being a Zionist? Given the fact that the creed and actions of the Zionist entity are based on racism and injustice. I am sure there are good Jews out there who oppose such destructive values.

Muslims seem to think that all Jews are zionists. Muslims often attack verbally and physically Jews because they are Jews, and they have a connection to the Jewish state of Israel.

That being said not all Jews are zionists. Jews have many different views on Israel.

Are all Muslims terrorists? Because there are many people who say that all muslims must somehow be responsible for, or support the attacks against non muslims, and the west. Is that fair?

I support the state of Israel, I also want to see a 2 state solution and that Jews and Palestinians will live in peace side by side. That is my vision.

 

[Tamar]

LOL! Racism? Why did you drag racism in the issue? His religion? LOL!
I think this is because he is a Zionist and we know the creed and actions of the Zionist entity.

Chill out!!

And what makes you think he is a zionist? Give me some information to back up what you are saying.

My thoughts are that he was booed because he is Jewish, Israeli, and a target for the Muslim audience.

 

[Darkness]

LOL! Racism? Why did you drag racism in the issue? His religion? LOL!
I think this is because he is a Zionist and we know the creed and actions of the Zionist entity.

Chill out!!

No, I will not chill out, and let you sanitise basic racism. The Palestinian leadership, and by your reasoning all Palestinians, are responsible for the deaths of countless innocents from suicide bombing. I think I will boo every Palestinian I see walking down the street. Better yet, I will also boo all Muslims for sharing the same religion with terrorists.

 

[Desert Snake]

And what makes you think he is a zionist? Give me some information to back up what you are saying.

My thoughts are that he was booed because he is Jewish, Israeli, and a target for the Muslim audience.

Judaism is not a race. The title of the thread uses the term "racism"
to describe the situation. Even if the crowd is reacting in that manner,
the reasons you gave still wouldn't fall under the category of "racism".

 

[Father Heathen]

He is a jew. Jews are ethno religious people.
So why is it racism? You really dont see it?

Religion and race are two completely different things. If someone were to convert to Judaism, it wouldn't magically rewrite their DNA.

 

[Flankerl]

Religion and race are two completely different things. If someone were to convert to Judaism, it wouldn't magically rewrite their DNA.

Ethnoreligious group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you convert to judaism you are a jew and not only someone who believes in judaism. End of story.


The problem is that the term "racism" is to narrow to define a group like jews.

 

[Father Heathen]

If you convert to judaism you are a jew and not only someone who believes in judaism. End of story.

Wacky and arbitrary rules aside, my genealogy would still remain unchanged, therefore race doesn't come into play at all.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I support the state of Israel, I also want to see a 2 state solution and that Jews and Palestinians will live in peace side by side. That is my vision.

Just curious: would you consider yourself a zionist?

 

[Flankerl]

Wacky and arbitrary rules aside, my genealogy would still remain unchanged, therefore race doesn't come into play at all.

So what is hate towards jews? Is it religious hate? Or hate against a people, oh wait there is a term for it. Something with a r..

 

[Revoltingest]

So what is hate towards jews? Is it religious hate? Or hate against a people, oh wait there is a term for it. Something with a r..

Revulsion?

 

[Desert Snake]

Ethnoreligious group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you convert to judaism you are a jew and not only someone who believes in judaism. End of story.


The problem is that the term "racism" is to narrow to define a group like jews.

A persons race does not change upon conversion to Judaism. As far as
"ethnicity" is concerned, that would depend on your definition.

 

[Yerda]

Should this be tolerated? How can these racist pigs be allowed to watch the beautiful game when they attack a player due to his nationality and religion? Its sport, not politics. It shocks beyond belief that people can be so pathetic.

You, a football fan, are shocked by this?

Racism is rampant in football. In Italy, Spain, and Serbia are three countries where monkey noises are common when black players touch the ball. When Kevin Campell signed for a Turkish side the fans went mental and he was regularly booed by his own support cuz ee iz black, innit?

The homophobia is even worse. Can you imagine the taunting the Spurs faithful are going to give to Chelsea player Ashley Cole when he finally comes out?

The last player who admitted he was homosexual was hounded out of the game, denounced by his own family, and ended up killing himself.

Benayoun getting booed every time he touches the ball cause he's Jewish is deplorable, but it's not surprising. In Scotland we send bullets and mail bombs.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

A persons race does not change upon conversion to Judaism. As far as
"ethnicity" is concerned, that would depend on your definition.

Unless you're arguing that discrimination based on ethnicity is acceptable (and if you are, then say it plainly and back it up), then you're splitting hairs over a semantic quibble that's irrelevant to this discussion.

 

[Desert Snake]

Unless you're arguing that discrimination based on ethnicity is acceptable (and if you are, then say it plainly and back it up), then you're splitting hairs over a semantic quibble that's irrelevant to this discussion.

"Semantics" matter. You need to explain how my posts are giving
you the impression that I think discrimination is 'acceptable'.