A New Twist on Racism in Sport

[Poisonshady313]

I am sure if he was just a Jew without the Israeli/Zionist part, this won't be the reaction. I think this wasn't about that specific person but what he represented and symbolized. He represents Israel after all and we all know many Muslims have a real problem with it.

HE PLAYS SOCCER! That's all he's ever done his whole life. All he represents or symbolizes is a guy dedicated to playing soccer.

The Malays who booed him are all a bunch of bigoted jerks, as is anyone who applauds their miserable, boorish behavior.

 

[Flankerl]

LOL! Racism? Why did you drag racism in the issue? His religion? LOL!
I think this is because he is a Zionist and we know the creed and actions of the Zionist entity.

Chill out!!

W T F

So obviously because he is a football player from Israel he is a zionist.




Of course.

 

[Kathryn]

This post is hypocritical. You complain (and to some extent, rightfully so) about how Israel is violating human rights, yet you seem to think of Malaysia as such a great place. Malaysia has a fairly poor human rights record- all Malays are forced to be Muslim by law and other religions don't have as many rights (for example, it's illegal to be Shiite in Malaysia). So, by that standard, if I see a Malaysian person playing soccer, should I jeer at them everytime they kick the ball b/c of Malaysia's disregard for freedom of religion?

xkatz, you just don't get it, do you? Prejudice is only unacceptable when the other guy is practicing it.

 

[Kathryn]

I sure do hope the NFL gets things worked out before American football season starts up. As an American, I'm always amazed at how politics, religion, etc gets all caught up in soccer, errr, I mean THE OTHER FOOTBALL, hooliganism.

About the worst we do is this:

 

[Tarheeler]

Jews are a completely different race?

No, but they are a distinct ethnic group, as defined by wikipedia, Marriam-Webster, and dictionary.com. And discrimination against an ethnic group is included in the definition of racism given in the UN's "International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination".

And the UN's rulings are typically given a fair bit more weight outside of the US.

 

[Desert Snake]

No, but they are a distinct ethnic group, as defined by wikipedia, Marriam-Webster, and dictionary.com. And discrimination against an ethnic group is included in the definition of racism given in the UN's "International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination".

And the UN's rulings are typically given a fair bit more weight outside of the US.

Any race can practice Judaism, you're probably referring to Semites,who are of any religion. If you disagree, define "ethnic".

 

[Revoltingest]

No, but they are a distinct ethnic group, as defined by wikipedia, Marriam-Webster, and dictionary.com. And discrimination against an ethnic group is included in the definition of racism given in the UN's "International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination".
And the UN's rulings are typically given a fair bit more weight outside of the US.

Sounds like people are screwing up our language so they can wield the word "racism" to describe any offense.
By that standard though, it's racist to imply Jews are a separate race.
"Bigotry" is accurate, although I'll concede that it's less histrionic than "racism".

 

[Tarheeler]

Any race can practice Judaism, you're probably referring to Semites,who are of any religion. If you disagree, define "ethnic".

Actually, since I never said Jews were a race, I'd suggest you read my post again.

 

[Desert Snake]

Actually, since I never said Jews were a race, I'd suggest you read my post again.

The title of the thread utilizes the word "racism", that's why
the use of this term is being criticized in this instance.

 

[Tarheeler]

Sounds like people are screwing up our language so they can wield the word "racism" to describe any offense.
By that standard though, it's racist to imply Jews are a separate race.
"Bigotry" is accurate, although I'll concede that it's less histrionic than "racism".

Maybe, but words do evolve, and I think there is logic in the UN's definition. That might actually make for a good thread itself.

I agree with you though. Here in the US, bigotry would be the appropriate term as we typically restrict racism to just physical race.

 

[Desert Snake]

Yes, a thread like that could be interesting. The 'race' term does seem innapropriate in this
instance. It's an easy mistake to make anyway, just because it's used so much.

 

[Revoltingest]

Maybe, but words do evolve, and I think there is logic in the UN's definition.

The UN...pish posh!
(When I say "UN", imagine my voice dripping with venom & derision.)
Those bumbling buffoons should keep their many sticky little hands off our language.

I agree with you though. Here in the US, bigotry would be the appropriate term as we typically restrict racism to just physical race.

Woo hoo....detente!

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I sure do hope the NFL gets things worked out before American football season starts up. As an American, I'm always amazed at how politics, religion, etc gets all caught up in soccer, errr, I mean THE OTHER FOOTBALL, hooliganism.

About the worst we do is this:

Sorry, Kathryn, but I'm confused. Which one is suppose to be the Jew and which the Muslim?

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I assume that the intent of the booing was to express derision for Israel (its policies if not its existence) and not to denigrate a faith commuity. I also assume that the attitude of many who participated was laced with antisemitism. I do not, however, consider the act primarilly or necessarily antisemitic.

 

[Revoltingest]

Sorry, Kathryn, but I'm confused. Which one is suppose to be the Jew and which the Muslim?

Clearly, the man is the Muslim, since he is modestly dressed.
The wanton woman must therefore be the Jewish one.

 

[Flankerl]

Any race can practice Judaism, you're probably referring to Semites,who are of any religion. If you disagree, define "ethnic".

You do realise that there are ethno religious people in the world right?

 

[Desert Snake]

You do realise that there are ethno religious people in the world right?

The title of the thread uses the word "racism".

 

[Flankerl]

Hint: Jews are ethno religious people

Hint 2: The football player in question is a jew.



Do the math.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

You do realise that there are ethno religious people in the world right?

I'm not sure I understand your point. Perhaps you could suggest some examples and indicate why they are important.

 

[Desert Snake]

Hint: Jews are ethno religious people

Hint 2: The football player in question is a jew.



Do the math.

If you can explain why the term "racism" is appropriate
in the thread title, by all means, do so. As was mentioned
earlier, the reaction of the crowd is probably not
directed at the specific player.