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A brief history of the far right in America

Sand Dancer

Crazy Cat Lady
The right wing is authoritarian--that's what defines it. Note there is a difference between the far right being discussed here and the moderate right.

Extremists are definitely authoritarian. They are so strict in their beliefs and black and white thinkers.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I am strangely reminded that the late, very funny Dorothy Parker was asked to use the word "horticulture" in a sentence.

To which she responded: "You can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think."
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The article is malarkey. It makes ridiculous unfounded assertions. There isn’t any evidence that the Aryan Nation, Timothy McVeigh or those from Ruby Ridge had any connection to Republicans. Did this Bill Moyer “journalist” really try to tie the Nazis to Dwight Eisenhower the very man that led the fight against the Nazis? And no mention of prominent Democrat right wingers. No George Wallace, no mention of the Ku Klux Klan, no Lyndon Johnson who called Blacks the worst epithets and spied on and used the FBI against Martin Luther King Jr.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
People also fail to make a distinction between the far left and the left. The far left are more radical, but really less of a problem in US politics currently and historically; the left simply seeks civil rights and human rights. A riot is not the same on the both sides; the left riot is the language of those who seek participation in democratic society on an equal level; the right riot seeks to overthrow democratically-elected government.
I don't recall who it was that said this, but it was during the time of the George Floyd protests. It was on John Oliver episode during that time. A black woman, an activist leader I can't recall who, said something to the effect while being interviewed. 'All we are asking for is equal rights. You should be thankful we're not looking for revenge." And I think that highlights the distinction right there.

Yeah, there's really no comparison between the BLM protests, and the radical right's fascist insurrection attempt under the Trumpian spell. The former is about equal rights. The latter about domination and the rejection of equal rights.
 

Orbit

I'm a planet
The article is malarkey. It makes ridiculous unfounded assertions. There isn’t any evidence that the Aryan Nation, Timothy McVeigh or those from Ruby Ridge had any connection to Republicans. Did this Bill Moyer “journalist” really try to tie the Nazis to Dwight Eisenhower the very man that led the fight against the Nazis? And no mention of prominent Democrat right wingers. No George Wallace, no mention of the Ku Klux Klan, no Lyndon Johnson who called Blacks the worst epithets and spied on and used the FBI against Martin Luther King Jr.

Balderdash. We're talking current events here, not back in time when the Democrats were the party of the KKK. Times have moved on, and now it's the Republicans who are #1 with racists. Do you seriously want to say Timothy McVeigh isn't a far right hero to militias and the rest? "Democrat right wingers" in modern times is a contradiction in terms. Get with the program, we're talking about 2021 here.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
So, does whataboutism somehow justify what happened on Jan 6? It seems some on RF must believe it does.

You're seeing it too, eh? I think it's time to get a pool going. Pick the date for the next time folks fail to respond to a post critical of the insurrectionists with whataboutery.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Balderdash. We're talking current events here, not back in time when the Democrats were the party of the KKK. Times have moved on, and now it's the Republicans who are #1 with racists. Do you seriously want to say Timothy McVeigh isn't a far right hero to militias and the rest? "Democrat right wingers" in modern times is a contradiction in terms. Get with the program, we're talking about 2021 here.
I said Timmy McVeigh had no connection to the Republican Party. And no the Republicans are not the modern racists. That would still be the Democrats. If you think BLM and Antifa aren’t racist you are wrong.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
And no the Republicans are not the modern racists. That would still be the Democrats. If you think BLM and Antifa aren’t racist you are wrong.
Can you point to systemic racism being perpetrated against whites from black-run government institutions? Until you can do that, you have absolutely zero point here. It is however quite easy to point out racism the other way. I think you don't understand what racism is in this country, if you think it's about black oppression of whites. That's sad you are this ignorant.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Very interesting. I had no idea that anyone thought the Waco business was some kind of infringement of liberty by the government. According to this, it is what set Alex Jones off on his path.
It was the revenge perpetuated by McVeigh because the federal government had used military equipment against civilians. Primarily a tank.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I don't think the fairness doctrine's repeal affects things
much. TV & radio have lost preeminence for news.
The internet really showed that change when The
Drudge Report broke all the rules by broaching the
Clinton Lewinsky affair.

I'd disagree. The fairness doctrine was doing quite well until Regan got rid of it.

Things went downhill since.
 

Friend of Mara

Active Member
It's a big deal to a socialist or communist types when a government building gets damaged... But mass looting of private businesses is "no biggie"... :rolleyes:


George Floyd Riots Caused Record-Setting $2 Billion in Damage, New Report Says. Here’s Why the True Cost Is Even Higher | Brad Polumbo
In a single decade the NYCPD will pay more in just settlement claims. If we have police reform we can save not only the money lost from riot damages but vastly more from not having so much settlement pay outs. Seems like a win-win.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I'd disagree. The fairness doctrine was doing quite well until Regan got rid of it.

Things went downhill since.
I recall things differently. The Fairness Doctrine imposed
a requirement to air opposing views, which was a disincentive
to air view which had opposition because it cost air time.
This made things more circumspect than I like.
But it's moot because it wouldn't apply to the internet.
Some could argue that it should, but they'd never get their
way because there's no broadcast license to hold over
the heads of sources.

Today we get more news than before.
It's faster, it's better, & it's less censored.
It's rushed, it's worse, it's more faux, & it's echo chamber-ogenic.
We gotta be careful consumers.
 
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