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I'm mixed race and I'm against race mixing

George-ananda

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
ADigitalArtist said:
Theres nothing smartened up about that reply. Just reiterating a poorly founded presumption on the basis of 'I'm being objective' which lol.
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Sounds like you just want to emotionally hit and run here. That's the problem many of us have with your attitude in this debate; you seem to just want to take on this air of anyone who thinks differently than 'ethnic genetics is not a factor' position must be a backwoods racist and let's go right into emotionally laden name calling.

Well, I tried to smarten up the debate at least.
 
shmogie

shmogie

Well-Known Member
MikeDwight said:
Dedication to Sun Myung Moon has people fly across the world to get married to people they've never met. You guys think that has to do with them being the True Parents? The "True Parents" tell you who to marry on the spot, I bet. What a Vile religion. Religion is cute, soft, and voter polling, until its not America, obviously, seems like. Make something work with someone you'll never met until you're married in Korea for the rest of your life or Usually you leave the Church, definitely.
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What ? I don't know what you are talking about.
 
shmogie

shmogie

Well-Known Member
Landon Caeli said:
Let me tell you something interesting, real quick and to the point. There are 3 types of people, negroid, caucasoid, and mongoloid. Some 30 million years ago, there were the Human, Neanderthal, and Denisovan.

...The Denisovan looked like the Asian, the human looked like the African, and the Neanderthal looked like the caucasian.

...But the weirdest part of it all, is that the human reverted back to the original 3, because the light skin of the caucasian developed over time, and is NOT in any way related to neanderthal. It's completely a separate adaptation. It literally took 100,000 years after the end of the light skinned Neanderthal, for the new light skinned human to come into existence.

Neanderthals were humans. They interbred with the cro magnon people, and their DNA can be found in human populations today.

Most likely, the change in climate to a warmer environment made it difficult for them to survive. Warmer air holds less oxygen, and their thick muscular bodies required a lot of oxygen.

A perfectly adapted body for extreme cold became a handicap in warming climes.

They were not stupid, they had a larger brain than we do today, and contrary to past ideas, they most likely could speak.
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Cooky

Cooky

Veteran Member
shmogie said:
Neanderthals were humans. They interbred with the cro magnon people, and their DNA can be found in human populations today.

Most likely, the change in climate to a warmer environment made it difficult for them to survive. Warmer air holds less oxygen, and their thick muscular bodies required a lot of oxygen.

A perfectly adapted body for extreme cold became a handicap in warming climes.

They were not stupid, they had a larger brain than we do today, and contrary to past ideas, they most likely could speak.
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All except for the Neanderthals being human part, I agree with. They were actually a different species, but from the hominin family.
 
shmogie

shmogie

Well-Known Member
Revoltingest said:
I hear that a lot....only 1 race.
And yet, we have all these races....white,
black, Mexican, asian, Jewish, Muslim, etc.
We hear all about racial disparity, racism,
affirmative action, white privilege, etc.
I begin to suspect that it's not a settled issue.
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There are certainly different physical characteristics of people, called races.

When you mix these differences with history and politics, anything can fly out of the mixer.

Most of it boils down to "races" grabbing what they can from other races in the political sphere.
 
MikeDwight

MikeDwight

Well-Known Member
ADigitalArtist said:
It's a simple question, do you think whites fare better in this country because of 'genetic and biological' reasons rather than a culture of white supremacy which has a still visible effect on modern social structures? If so, then that's the real dumbing down of the issue.

Because blacks aren't better sprinters because they're black, but tall lean muscled people are better sprinters. And obviously there are plenty of black people who aren't tall lean musclesd people. East Asians (which isn't even an ethnicity but many) are not smarter or more mathematically minded than anyone else but the cultural structure of memorization and testing has made significant impact on study values. If you have an East Asian kid adopted into an American family you'll see similar results as other American kids. (Though even they will experience social expectation of performance due to the belief they should be succeeding on the basis of their race, which is not only racist but highly damaging to those kids.)

The very idea of genetic advantage tied to ethnicity and nation is as much pseudoscience as.... well really the kind of pseudoscience you're already inclined to believe in.
And the belief of value in anti-miscegenation is full stop a racist belief.
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I was just hearing this in my head a while ago. I mean, are blacks prepared to say Whites have more stuff? Very accomplished authors recently are talking about the rich landscape of Europe that had a natural advantage. Far more than the natural resources, the technology and social structure that advanced in Europe, are we prepared to call at least some part of British Empire an inborne success that whether or not was reaching outward or whether it wasn't reaching outward with its own resources plentiful, in fact I assume they'd have to get their own Cotton and Tea sources, would have been nice.

Somehow we've worked in my studies, there's strange conspiracy theories about Sa-I-Gu was a political attack, well OK, then... Rodney King who was a pitiable excuse for barely human on Oprah, recalled later after drowning in his pool, for some reason, getting attacked by white cops, and not having a beer with Obama later, was a top-level political intrigue event using the black minions of the nation to attack and destroy 300 million in Korean American property ownership. That's some sort of orchestrated silence on that, anyway.
 
Darkforbid

Darkforbid

Well-Known Member
Lyndon said:
garbage, aborigines have been in Aust for 80,000 years
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Not quite 'Human skeletons and archaeological remains in Australia can be traced back nearly 50,000 years before the trail disappears. Before then, apparently, Australia was free of humans.'
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Landon Caeli said:
Sheesh, you make sound like Trump is the anti-Christ, summoned straight from hell itself.

...It's really not Trump v Jesus. We're all sinners, metis.
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I don't make such judgments, but there is no way to reconcile Trump's repeated behavior with so many of Jesus' teachings.

Yes, we're all sinners, but some are much more prolific at it than some others, thus using what's called "false equivalency" distorts the true picture. The main editorial in "Christianity Today" points this out quite clearly, essentially saying much the same as I posted.

IOW, as Jesus said, we Christians each have to decide whether we want to support "Caesar" or Jesus because all too much of what they've said and done are at polar opposites.
 
metis

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Landon Caeli said:
All except for the Neanderthals being human part, I agree with. They were actually a different species, but from the hominin family.
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The anthropological verdict is not agreed upon on that as some of us regard Neanderthal as being a sub-species. So, it's either Homo neanderthalensis or Homo sapiens neanderthalensis-- take your pick.

BTW, d.n.a. testing has indicated that there's a higher percentage of Neanderthal in Asian populations as compared to populations on other continents, but even with them the percent is quite small. I don't know how the Aborigines in Australia compare though.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Landon Caeli said:
Sheesh, you make sound like Trump is the anti-Christ, summoned straight from hell itself.

...It's really not Trump v Jesus. We're all sinners, metis.
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It illustrates a problem with such fundamentalist views,
ie, that it's good vs evil, without complexities. And woe
unto any of us who disagree....we're excoriated by those
who judge without attempting to understand differences.
We've met such posters.
 
gnomon

gnomon

Well-Known Member
Revoltingest said:
I'm a big fan of race mixing.
(I'd better be....otherwise Mrs Revolt might use her
kung fu on me. Those people are born knowing it.)
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Why am I here?
An Dà Shealladh said:
I'm mixed race and I'm 100% against race mixing/interracial relationships. Because:

1. Race mixing is racism/race hatred. How is mixing your race and your racial line out of existence not race hatred/self hatred? Every person I've ever asked has been unable to answer this. It would also ultimately destroy diversity.

2. Race mixing is scientifically proven to have detrimental consequences such as mixed race people having infertility, lower IQ, mental health issues, defects/disabilities, etc. due to being mixed.

Mixed people are more likely to have a variety of medical issues.
Sources:
- White-Asian children are twice as likely as Asians to have mental illness. Biracial Asian Americans and Mental Health
- White/Black babies are less healthy than White babies. Prematurity and Low Birth Weight as Potential Mediators of Higher Stillbirth Risk in Mixed Black/White Race Couples
- Mixed race couples are more likely to have stillborn babies than same-race couples. Adverse perinatal outcomes among interracial couples in the United States. - PubMed - NCBI
- Black-White children are more likely than both Black and Whites to make poor decisions. The Plight of Mixed Race Adolescents
- Mixed race kids suffer from low self-esteem, social isolation, and poor family dynamics. Health and Behavior Risks of Adolescents with Mixed-Race Identity
- Mixed race children are more likely to have health problems, high stress, smoke, and drink. Health and Behavior Risks of Adolescents with Mixed-Race Identity
- Interracial people cannot receive certain organ donations. Breaking News, Analysis, Politics, Blogs, News Photos, Video, Tech Reviews - TIME.com
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Well you're screwed.

There is no scientific concept supporting the notion of race.

Or are you living in an RPG?

edit: Good Lady Above I think I know why I'm here.

****ing vodka.
 
MikeDwight

MikeDwight

Well-Known Member
Shad said:
Holy crap. I had to make sure I wasn't redirected to Stormfront.
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Well since Shad is such a buzzkill everywhere, I must say to the OP, how come every half-Korean man is such a big smoker. People should make a study in the USA.
 
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