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SalixIncendium · Mar 16, 2019

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ManSinha · Mar 16, 2019

Faithofchristian said:
We Remember all to well, are not going to let it happen again

No we just do it to ourselves - over and over

Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold
Adam Lanza
Stephen Paddock
Seung-Hui Cho
James Alex Fields, Jr

SalixIncendium · Mar 16, 2019

Faithofchristian said:
To you maybe, wonder just how you would feel if it was your brother's and sisters that lost their lives by someone else's hands.
I can probably bet you wouldn't run over throwing your arms around them, like nothing happening.

As I can see, that could give heck what would happen to your brother's or sisters.
Now if you want to call something sicking, there's what's sicking. In not caring about your own brothers or sisters.

This is quite a separatist mentality.

All living beings are my brothers and sisters (actually more than that in their true nature), not just Americans.

Hatred leads to violence leads to hatred leads to violence leads to hatred. Do you want to be a part of the problem or a part of the solution?

Faithofchristian · Mar 16, 2019

ManSinha said:
@Faithofchristian

Was Timothy McVeigh a white American or was he not?

As for Timothy McVeigh, he was dealt with his actions.
Has he didn't come from the outside of the U.S. but right here in the U.S.
As we deal with our own when they commit such actions.
But as for Muslims that came from the outside to the U.S. to commit such actions against us, then we will definitely take care of them.
So what someone that is born here, that's on us, but when you have a people that is not of us, that's another case to be taken care of.

SalixIncendium · Mar 16, 2019

Faithofchristian said:
As for Timothy McVeigh, he was dealt with his actions.
Has he didn't come from the outside of the U.S. but right here in the U.S.
As we deal with our own when they commit such actions.
But as for Muslims that came from the outside to the U.S. to commit such actions against us, then we will definitely take care of them.
So what someone that is born here, that's on us, but when you have a people that is not of us, that's another case to be taken care of.

By comparison in your thinking the mosque attacks were justified, do you think blowing up McVeigh's family's house would have been an appropriate way to deal with the Oklahoma City Bombing?

ManSinha · Mar 16, 2019

Faithofchristian said:
But as for Muslims that came from the outside to the U.S. to commit such actions against us, then we will definitely take care of them

I know that you are angry and upset - but here is the piece - evangelical christians are part of the swing vote that puts American Presidents in to power (I presume from your posts that you are an American)

The majority of the 9/11 attackers were Saudi Arabian - a country that also promotes Wahabi Islam

Bush was re elected in 2004 and then Obama and then Trump - why has the Christian American Leadership not held Saudi Arabia to account? Even Trump's Muslim Travel ban did not include Saudi Arabia - Take a moment and answer that one for me

The voters in America do have a modicum of influence on their political representatives - thank the Lord for that - so why not use it to "exact just Christian revenge" - now that would be more useful and actually achieve something instead of railing from behind the safety of a computer screen and pseudonym.

Spirit of Light · Mar 16, 2019

When i open this thread with my OP my intention was to honnor the people that died in the two mosques. They had not done anything wrong, the only thing they did was to go to the mosque and pray. If we as a people can not accept that some people will have different religious belief then our self, then this world has not much more to give.

The good news is that those who are responsabile for the horror has been captured,

Faithofchristian · Mar 16, 2019

SalixIncendium said:
This is quite a separatist mentality.

All living beings are my brothers and sisters (actually more than that in their true nature), not just Americans.

Hatred leads to violence leads to hatred leads to violence leads to hatred. Do you want to be a part of the problem or a part of the solution?

Let's see if I'm getting this right, As you say were all brothers and sisters.

As in the flesh that's right, But not in the spiritual aspect.

That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed" Romans 9:8.
Now can you explain exactly what that means to a Christian.
It means, those that are of the flesh are not the children of God, But the children of the promise
The promise one is Christ Jesus, God made promise to my father Abraham that threw his children God would send his Son Christ Jesus and those who accepts Christ Jesus becomes the children of God's.

Jose Fly · Mar 16, 2019

SalixIncendium said:
**MOD POST**

RULE 1 REMINDER:

1. Personal Comments About Members and Staff
Personal attacks and name-calling, whether direct or in the third person, are strictly prohibited on the forums. Critique each other's ideas all you want, but under no circumstances personally attack each other or the staff. Quoting a member's post in a separate/new thread without their permission to challenge or belittle them, or harassing staff members for performing moderation duties, will also be considered a personal attack.

Critique each other's ideas to your heart's content, but attacking another's character will result in moderation.

This is why I keep thinking this forum may not be a place I should be. Apparently at Religious Forums it's perfectly acceptable to do things like advocate genocide, post homophobic, Islamophobic, xenophobic, and downright racist rhetoric....but calling out the people who do those things is against the rules.

I strongly suggest the management team here revisit their priorities and question themselves on why they would deliberately allow their forum to serve as a platform for such ugly hatred.

SalixIncendium · Mar 16, 2019

Faithofchristian said:
Let's see if I'm getting this right, As you say were all brothers and sisters.

As in the flesh that's right, But not in the spiritual aspect.

Even more so in the spiritual aspect, at least in my view.

Faithofchristian said:
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed" Romans 9:8.
Now can you explain exactly what that means to a Christian.
It means, those that are of the flesh are not the children of God, But the children of the promise
The promise one is Christ Jesus, God made promise to my father Abraham that threw his children God would send his Son Christ Jesus and those who accepts Christ Jesus becomes the children of God's.

You use your religion as an instrument for hatred, which puts you on the same level as the ones you hate. Can you not realize this?

Faithofchristian · Mar 16, 2019

ManSinha said:
I know that you are angry and upset - but here is the piece - evangelical christians are part of the swing vote that puts American Presidents in to power (I presume from your posts that you are an American)

The majority of the 9/11 attackers were Saudi Arabian - a country that also promotes Wahabi Islam

Bush was re elected in 2004 and then Obama and then Trump - why has the Christian American Leadership not held Saudi Arabia to account? Even Trump's Muslim Travel ban did not include Saudi Arabia - Take a moment and answer that one for me

The voters in America do have a modicum of influence on their political representatives - thank the Lord for that - so why not use it to "exact just Christian revenge" - now that would be more useful and actually achieve something instead of railing from behind the safety of a computer screen and pseudonym.

I'm not either one, being upset or angry, What do I have be upset or angry about,

I just set back like a lion in it's den, just waiting for that person to walk in, thinking everything all right, until the door of the den comes slamming down. Then they realize they been had by the lion.just waiting patiently for them to make that one big mistake, thinking the lion is big ***** cat, until the lion wakes up and find them in his den.

SalixIncendium · Mar 16, 2019

Jose Fly said:
This is why I keep thinking this forum may not be a place I should be. Apparently at Religious Forums it's perfectly acceptable to do things like advocate genocide, post homophobic, Islamophobic, xenophobic, and downright racist rhetoric....but calling out the people who do those things is against the rules.

I strongly suggest the management team here revisit their priorities and question themselves on why they would deliberately allow their forum to serve as a platform for such ugly hatred.

There are ways to deal with hatred without attacking those that hate with hateful remarks. Attacking someone's character rarely results in anything productive other than more hate.

However, if you have issues with the way the forum is moderated, please feel free to vent your concerns in Site Feedback.

Spirit of Light · Mar 16, 2019

Faithofchristian said:
I'm not either one, being upset or angry, What do I have be upset or angry about,

I just set back like a lion in it's den, just waiting for that person to walk in, thinking everything all right, until the door of the den comes slamming down. Then they realize they been had by the lion.just waiting patiently for them to make that one big mistake, thinking the lion is big ***** cat, until the lion wakes up and find them in his den.

What did the muslims in the mosque do wrong? why is it ok to kill inocent people, but when it happens in your country it is seen as evil?

Faithofchristian · Mar 16, 2019

SalixIncendium said:
Even more so in the spiritual aspect, at least in my view.

You use your religion as an instrument for hatred, which puts you on the same level as the ones you hate. Can you not realize this?

Nope you love your enemies, what this mean is, that if my enemies come at me to do me harm or any of my brothers or sisters or my country, then I use whatever it takes to correct them in the error of their way.
As it doesn't mean that you lay down and let your enemies walk all over you, Nope
You pick up a big club and knock them up side the head, letting them know your not their walk on, as rug at the door they can wipe their feet on.

Well it's evidence that you have no clue or idea, what the Spiritual Realm of the aspect means.

Faithofchristian · Mar 16, 2019

Amanaki said:
What did the muslims in the mosque do wrong? why is it ok to kill inocent people, but when it happens in your country it is seen as evil?

Go ask the Muslims the same thing, As to why they Attack killing 3000 innocent people.

Spirit of Light · Mar 16, 2019

Faithofchristian said:
Go ask the Muslims the same thing, As to why they Attack killing 3000 innocent people.

You trying to avoid the question.

You talked about enemies,
I want you to answer this about me. I do not have one single enemy in this world, because i know how to forgive what others do toward me. in your view, what do you want to say to me?

SalixIncendium · Mar 16, 2019

Faithofchristian said:
Nope you love your enemies, what this mean is, that if my enemies come at me to do me harm or any of my brothers or sisters or my country, then I use whatever it takes to correct them in the error of their way.
As it doesn't mean that you lay down and let your enemies walk all over you, Nope
You pick up a big club and knock them up side the head, letting them know your not their walk on, as rug at the door they can wipe their feet on.

What did the people in the mosques, not those that share the religion of the extremists that attacked us on our soil, but the actual people in the mosques, do to you to become your enemy.

Faithofchristian said:
Well it's evidence that you have no clue or idea, what the Spiritual Realm of the aspect means.

Actually, I have no clue or idea what you said here means.

Riders · Mar 16, 2019

Faithofchristian said:
What is interesting, is how people thinks that in other part of the world should feel sorry for those 49 Muslims.
When a little over 3000 people lost their lives in the NYC Twin towers being destroyed by Muslims back in the year 2000.
But not one time did Muslims stand up to condemn those Muslims.
But instead went out in the streets rejoicing about it.
And you think American people are going to feel sorry, I wouldn't hold your breath on that one.

Let's see how other people will feel when it happens to them,

As it is, What goes around comes around.

Personally I believe Bush and our own people had more to do with that then Muslim terrorists, and by the way theres a difference between Muslim terrorists and the Mualims who were killed anyways.

ManSinha · Mar 16, 2019

Riders said:
Personally I believe Bush and our own people had more to do with that

That is a harsh comment or a conspiracy theory?

Riders · Mar 16, 2019

ManSinha said:
That is a harsh comment or a conspiracy theory?

Its conspiracy but a lot of us believe it, Bush wanted a war,

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