This seems like an affirmation against there being multiple Gods.
Jewish, Christian and Muslim faiths, except for some non-canon gospels, see God as completely separate from man.
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God is One
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This seems like an affirmation against there being multiple Gods.
Jewish, Christian and Muslim faiths, except for some non-canon gospels, see God as completely separate from man.
Pantheism, except for the gnostic gospels seems a fairly modern idea.
I tend to agree which is part of the reason I decided to be an atheist.
Better to not hold any belief than pretend you know something about God.
I consider your choice a logical and reasonable choice, but I consider agnosticism a better choice.
There is more to the belief in God than my definition. The point is that narrow definitions based on ancient scripture, and cultural beliefs, are not tenable based what we know today of scripture, culture, and the evolution of religious belief over the millennia.
Akivah
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Before the creation of the world, only G-d existed. There was no separate entity in any form. After creation, everything in the world remained part of G-d. The only difference is that through the miracle of creation, G-d gave each human being free will. With this, we have the unique ability to think for ourselves and to act upon those thoughts. It's as if from within G-d, we maintain a certain autonomy.Yet we're still part of G-d. Because that's all there is.The autonomy of this world – free will – can mislead a person into thinking there is something else outside of G-d. Therefore it is a constant, lifelong challenge to overcome this illusion – and see that the only existence is G-d. That G-d is one.
In India for example, it goes back to ancient times. Its popularity in western cultures has certainly increased though in modern times, yes.
Maybe you are right. I just haven't come across anything.
Giving God anthropomophic attributes as to what God can and cannot do (ability?) is a contradiction of what the nature of God from a human perspective. If God exists God simply exists, and the nature of our physical existence simply exists as God Created.
God is not a chess player
With the white pieces.
God is the sea
and we are the fishes.
I believe all cultures of the world can be traced back to ancient times, essentially the Neolithic. The oldest known literary work, Gilgamesh, can be traced back to oral traditions before writing recorded it. Chinese culture and beliefs centered around the dragon can be traced back to the Neolithic before the written word,
From Wikipedia:
Advaita Vedanta is the oldest extant sub-school of Vedanta, an ancient Hindu tradition of scriptural exegesis and religious practice, and the best-known school of advaita, the nonduality of Atman and Brahman or the Absolute. It gives "a unifying interpretation of the whole body of Upanishads", providing scriptural authority for the postulation of the nonduality of Atman and Brahman.
syo
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that god is the one creator. one mastermind behind creation. and the christian god is separate from his creation. a cat is a cat, not god.
Linear (4) and infinite time (8) are dimensions, and dimensions are a construct; reality can exist without any form.
Reality is made manifest by the CPU...So you know the pyramid with the eye on top, from my knowledge that is our reality in the afterlife, it was wide at the bottom, and came to a Singularity at the top, that manifest reality at a quantum level.
So there are multiple quantum dimensions that are maintained by the CPU; like in the massive multiple player online game, the game engine maintains the structure for players in the game to interact.
God is One can mean the Source of this reality we are within; it can also mean it is One in process, it is beyond the dimensions of Unconditional Love, and Wisdom as we near the Core, its levels of comprehension, and logic are unfathomable.
In my opinion.
EtuMalku
Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Perennial philosophy is the understanding that all the world's (Right Hand Path) religions share a single, universal doctrine. This doctrine posits that the highest good that human life can achieve is through the union with a Supreme Being / Energy of the Universe / Objective Universe.
This is not the stance one takes upon the Western Left Hand Path, the Objective Universe is seen as it plainly is, a non-conscious, unintelligent memetic mechanism composed of Time, Space & Matter. To absolve one's self into this is antithetic to the Western Left Hand Path's goals of individuation, Autotheism, and the cultivation of the Good Human.
That said; We understand there to be no external god, that the only god any of us will ever come to know is the god within, one's Greater Self. Our Greater Self is separate from the dualistic limitations of the Objective Universe and master of each individual's Subjective Universe. It is our full potential and is pure consciousness.
This is not the stance one takes upon the Western Left Hand Path, the Objective Universe is seen as it plainly is, a non-conscious, unintelligent memetic mechanism composed of Time, Space & Matter. To absolve one's self into this is antithetic to the Western Left Hand Path's goals of individuation, Autotheism, and the cultivation of the Good Human.
That said; We understand there to be no external god, that the only god any of us will ever come to know is the god within, one's Greater Self. Our Greater Self is separate from the dualistic limitations of the Objective Universe and master of each individual's Subjective Universe. It is our full potential and is pure consciousness.
Ponder This
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Oneness could be referring to the idea of monotheism. God being singular means he is not a multiplicity of entities or forms.
"Oneness" may also refer to the absence of separation. As in when a husband and wife become "one" flesh, they are no longer separate entities or forms. An experience of "oneness" can refer to an experience where God is not perceived as an entity separate from the observer.
The idea that God is "everywhere" or omnipresent seems to me like a slightly different idea, but not one that is incompatible with the notion of oneness. Even if "God is everywhere" it doesn't necessarily say that God is or is not everything.
Is a moon rock the moon? Yes and no.
Milton Platt
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So god is the entire universe...let's just call it the universe, then
Milton Platt
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If god is unknowable, or you are unable to verify his/her/it's actual existence, then why would you assume creation and "revelation" are attributes of anything but the workings of the natural universe and the product of the human mind?
I do not assume, I believe in God, and acknowledge the limits of belief. There are other reasons I believe in God.
Grandliseur
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Perhaps if you read a few scriptures, your question might be answered:
Isaiah 43:10-13 10 “. . .and that YOU may understand that I am the same One. Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none. 11 I—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.” 12 “I myself have told forth and have saved and have caused [it] to be heard, when there was among YOU no strange [god]. So YOU are my witnesses,” is the utterance of Jehovah, “and I am God. 13 Also, all the time I am the same One; and there is no one effecting deliverance out of my own hand. I shall get active, and who can turn it back?”
In the Bible we see two teachings. God has a body and a location where his body can be found. However, all of the physical creation, including the angels who seem to belong not to our universe - were created by God using his own essence. For this reason, God tells us that he knows where all are, what they are doing, what they are thinking. In that sense, everything consists of the matter made from God's essence.
What exactly the consequences of this latter thing becomes, I don't pretend to know. However, Jesus told us that if the people would not cry out in acknowledgement of his riding, the stones would cry out in their stead.
Luke 19:37-40 37 As soon as he got near the road down the Mount of Olives all the multitude of the disciples started to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice concerning all the powerful works they had seen, 38 saying: “Blessed is the One coming as the King in Jehovah’s name! Peace in heaven, and glory in the highest places!” 39 However, some of the Pharisees from the crowd said to him: “Teacher, rebuke your disciples.” 40 But in reply he said: “I tell YOU, If these remained silent, the stones would cry out.”
whirlingmerc
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No. God is not one with the universe but a maker of it who is beyond time space and matter in his divine essence
God is 'one' - 'one' here from the Torah is echad ( also used of 'one' clump of grapes or the two shall become 'one' flesh in a marriage
Hey Nakosis, hope you’re having a good day!
1 Corinthians 8:5-6 is pretty clear... there certainly are other gods given validation by the people who worship them, this forum is proof of that!
But according to Revelation 4:11, only one is worthy of worship. Acts of the Apostles 17:22-28 really ties all these points together.
This God that Paul references is the God of the Jews, the One that Jesus worshipped, as can be seen from John 20:17.
Unfortunately, most in Christendom worship a trinity, not giving God, ie., Jesus’ Father, sole devotion, which is what He requires as Exodus 20:1-5 informs us. In fact, He’s often overlooked, in favor of Jesus.
Take care.