God created human from nothing,Indeed He could created man from crocodiles or anything else.
In case of humanity creation ways, the cycle is compeleted by Jesus (pbuh).
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Why Jews did not accept Jesus (pbuh)!
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In case of humanity creation ways, the cycle is compeleted by Jesus (pbuh).
If I made a thread poll about who saying always to people "Good for you" in RF,I am certain you will win ,without doubt
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Perhaps he means 'importance'? I've seen 'import' used as such a contraction before.
Is this a rhetorical question. Surely you know enough to use a search engine (if not, see Wikipedia: Books of the Tanakh) and to realize that 'canon' is a generic term -- see, for example, Wikipedia: Biblical canon.
Similarly, see Wikipedia: Messiah in Judaism.
One can take issue with any or all of these and similar links, but I would expect any reasonably honest and competent interlocutor to have taken some minimal steps to become informed on the matters under discussion.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
Yes and no. I answered but I also know how this will eventually turn out. How do I know that? Well I've been here long enough.
But okay let's do it the hard way, because I am just that stupid.
Bereis_h_i_t 18:18
18 seeing that Abraham shall surely become a great and mighty nation, and all the nations of the earth shall be blessed in him?
This is obviously not about Christianity or Islam. Christianity and Islam conquered the world and spilled lot's of blood.
So apparently this hasn't happened yet. And since I can't view into the future I can't tell you when it's going to happen.
Yeshayahu 11:9
9 They shall neither harm nor destroy on all My holy mount, for the land shall be full of knowledge of the Lord as water covers the sea bed.
I personally think its typically Christian to single out this one line while ignoring every line above or below it.
If one reads the entire verse it becomes obvious that it hasn't happened yet. And again I can't see into the future.
Yeshayahu 2:2-4
2 And it shall be at the end of the days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be firmly established at the top of the mountains, and it shall be raised above the hills, and all the nations shall stream to it.
3 And many peoples shall go, and they shall say, "Come, let us go up to the Lord's mount, to the house of the God of Jacob, and let Him teach us of His ways, and we will go in His paths," for out of Zion shall the Torah come forth, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
4 And he shall judge between the nations and reprove many peoples, and they shall beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift the sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore.
I will never understand Christians. I seriously never will.
Oh man that so must be about Jesus. But wait... what does it say in 2:1?
1 The word that Isaiah, son of Amoz, prophesied concerning Judah and Jerusalem.
Hm interesting... just out of fun what does 1:1 say.
1 The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem, in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, [and] Hezekiah, kings of Judah.
It's almost... as if this is connected and somehow related to each other. No idea why. I mean those prehistoric Neanderisraelites surely didn't know that you could write about one story longer than one chapter right?
brb writing a letter to Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz and Hezekiah. Not sure if the Israeli post office will send the letter back or just throw it into the trash.
Okay now
Bamidbar 6:24-26
24 "May the Lord bless you and watch over you.
25 May the Lord cause His countenance to shine to you and favor you.
26 May the Lord raise His countenance toward you and grant you peace."
Okay... what?
So let's have a look a few lines above.
22 The Lord spoke to Moses saying:
23 Speak to Aaron and his sons, saying: This is how you shall bless the children of Israel, saying to them:
...
27 They shall bestow My Name upon the children of Israel, so that I will bless them.
So we are now connecting a blessing by the Kohen with Jesus? Because its pretty clear that this is not about Jesus but about how to bless us.
Hey don't ask me, I am not a native speaker.
One of the better discussions of the Dead Sea Scrolls can be found in Emanuel Tov's Textual Criticism of the Hebrew Bible where he refers to a 'pluriformity' of textual witnessed.
(Also worth owning is Reclaiming the Dead Sea Scrolls by Lawrence Schiffman.)
Tumah
Veteran Member
You didn't answer the question.
I though you talking about God could creat anything from anything ?
I said God created Jesus (pbuh) without man so cycle is complete.
1-God could creat from nothing, without man and woman = Adam
2-God could creat from man only : Eve
3-God could creat from woman only: Jesus (pbuh)
4-God could creat from man and woman,ALL human being exept of course Adam(pbuh),Eve,Jesus(pbuh)
Tumah
Veteran Member
The cycle is not complete.
5. G-d could create man from crocodile: ???
6. G-d could create man from sheep: ???
7. G-d could create man from fire: ???
8. G-d could create man from water: ???
9. G-d could create man from air: ???
10. G-d could create man from bugs: ???
11. G-d could create man from fish: ???
When do those happen?
Intern cycle complete
Tumah
Veteran Member
I don't understand your answer. My question is, if its not enough to create man from nothing and G-d has to spell out every which way that He can create man, then why hasn't He shown us all the other ways He can do it?Intern cycle complete
Thank you. Believe me, I mean no offense at all! I'm not trying to tie in these Scriptures with Jesus.
Did I mention that I am a JW? I know where it says "LORD", it's not saying Jesus. (Although I'm a Christian) I worship Who you worship. All Christians should. he's the true God.
Take care, cousin.
Tumah
Veteran Member
Can you explain in a way that answers my question?I meant by intern cycle it's about male,female.
Actualty He shows us enough
You don't believe that Jesus (pbuh) get birth from Mary (woman only) ,how I should explain my point ?
I meant our angle are different !
Tumah
Veteran Member
I don't understand how what you are saying addresses my question.
Personally, I believe Jesus had a human mother and father. But that has nothing to do with the question I asked you.
I did answser your question when I said God can do whatever He want.
We are talking about what He already created
I do believe Jesus (pbuh) had human mother ONLY. (this is the different angle)
Thanks very much for those links!
Tumah
Veteran Member
I understand that. But "G-d can do whatever He wants" is not a satisfactory answer to my question. You see some logic in the concept of G-d creating from nothing, from man, and from woman. Somehow to you this represents a complete cycle of something. My question to you, is that this is not true, there is no complete cycle here, because there are other elements that G-d can still show He can create from. So your reasoning for Jesus' birth as being only from a mother is not a logical reasoning.
RedDragon94
Love everyone, meditate often
John 1:1, Colossians 1:15, 1 John 4:15, John 20:31, John 8:58. Don't twist the Scriptures to your own interpretation. They cannot be broken.