titani2
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To read the Quran, you just need courage. If you have that, Quran translated to English is here: www.SureQuran.com
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Proof of Islam?
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Trailblazer
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and you need time.
Trailblazer
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I agree.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I read the quran. I was not impressed.
titani2
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I find this very strange: different people experience the Quran very differently.
It sure looks like that happens mainly due to the social environment.
Very few people convert to Islam. All the more when we compare the numbers to those who are raised into it and basically told from a very tender age that it is a moral flaw not to be a Muslim.
I'm inferring that you're a fan of the Quran?
titani2
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Yes, absolutely. I became a fan of the Quran, and I was before its enemy.
titani2
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Actually, today, Islam is the fastest growing religion, and the fastest growing out of conversions. My claims are easily verifiable.
Trailblazer
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The Future of World Religions: Population Growth Projections, 2010-2050
Why Muslims Are Rising Fastest and the Unaffiliated Are Shrinking as a Share of the World’s Population
The religious profile of the world is rapidly changing, driven primarily by differences in fertility rates and the size of youth populations among the world’s major religions, as well as by people switching faiths. Over the next four decades, Christians will remain the largest religious group, but Islam will grow faster than any other major religion. If current trends continue, by 2050 …
- The number of Muslims will nearly equal the number of Christians around the world.
- Atheists, agnostics and other people who do not affiliate with any religion – though increasing in countries such as the United States and France – will make up a declining share of the world’s total population.
- The global Buddhist population will be about the same size it was in 2010, while the Hindu and Jewish populations will be larger than they are today.
- In Europe, Muslims will make up 10% of the overall population.
- India will retain a Hindu majority but also will have the largest Muslim population of any country in the world, surpassing Indonesia.
- In the United States, Christians will decline from more than three-quarters of the population in 2010 to two-thirds in 2050, and Judaism will no longer be the largest non-Christian religion. Muslims will be more numerous in the U.S. than people who identify as Jewish on the basis of religion.
- Four out of every 10 Christians in the world will live in sub-Saharan Africa.
The Future of World Religions: Population Growth Projections, 2010-2050
titani2
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Thank you.
Trailblazer
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84 percent of the world population has faith; a third are Christian
Here’s the breakdown of “The Global Religious Landscape,” based on an analysis of more than 2,500 censuses, surveys and population registers:
• 2.2 billion Christians (32 percent of the world’s population).
• 1.6 billion Muslims (23 percent).
• 1 billion Hindus (15 percent.
• 500 million Buddhists (7 percent).
• 400 million people (6 percent) practicing various folk or traditional religions, including African traditional religions, Chinese folk religions, American Indian religions and Australian aboriginal religions.
There are 14 million Jews, and an estimated 58 million people — slightly less than 1 percent of the global population – belong to other religions, including the Baha’i faith, Jainism, Sikhism, Shintoism, Taoism, Tenrikyo, Wicca and Zoroastrianism, “to mention just a few,” the study says.
About half of all Christians in the world are Catholic, 37 percent are part of the Protestant tradition, 12 percent are Orthodox Greek or Russian.
The largest population of Christians (243 million) is found, incidentally, in the United States, followed by Brazil, Mexico, Russia, the Philippines, Nigeria and China.
Find the entire massive study here: http://www.pewforum.
Trailblazer
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You're welcome. I have done a lot of research on this subject so I have a whole folder full of Word documents.
The growth rates of the Abrahamic religions from 1910-2010 were as follows: Judaism .11%, Christianity 1.32%, Islam 1.97%, and Baha’i Faith 3.54%.
From 2000-2010 Islam became the fastest growing religion (1.86 %) and the Baha’i Faith was the second fastest growing religion (1.72%).
Statistics from: Growth of religion - Wikipedia
Islam set to become world's largest religion by 2075, study suggests
First: "Don't take security in the false refuge of consensus." - Hitchens
IMO both the Bible and the Quran are dangerous, divisive, tribalistic books. I know more about the Quran than the Bible, but I will add that the Quran is misogynistic, homophobic, antisemitic, and theocratic. IMO the Quran is a thinly veiled war manual, equipping Muslims with the belief that they should take over the world, by any means necessary.
Well I have plenty of courage, but part of that courage leads me to acknowledge that generally speaking over time the interpretation of a text changes as apologists post-hoc rationalise the meaning to suit more modern knowledge in my view.
Therefore I would assert that far from looking to the most modern 2023 interpretation, we should probably be looking to the first interpretations as they would be closer in time to the original meaning in my opinion.
Therefore I would ask of what benefit is your 2023 ultra-post-hoc rationalised version over say a yusuf ali translation which is substantially earlier?
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Then cite your claim for Islam being the fastest growing due to conversion.
If I recall it is the fastest growing due to birth rates only.
Fastest growing because Muslims have so many children, I know.
Now, about conversions... I would really have to demand some evidence and/or sources.
Not that I would easily believe them, mind you. I definitely would not.
If anything, I expect a raise of awereness of Islam in the coming 20 to 30 years and a significant, perhaps decisive backlash against it.
It has been necessary for centuries and postponed endlessly because it is such a messy business. But now we have improved communications and things can't really be postponed forever.
For the time being opposition to Islam is often mistaken for or actually mixed with racism, but that too is an unfortunate circunstance that can't last forever.
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Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe I didn't need courage but I did have help from the Holy Spirit. At least He was interested. He didn't bother with the Bhagavad Gita.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe that won't matter. In the end there is only Jesus.