Is knowledge good or bad thing ?

[Dan From Smithville]

Knowledge ceases to be knowledge when it is a common sense. Even a dog doesn't jumps from a high place.

How does common sense as the application of common knowledge change the properties of the knowledge? Again, it is the application of the object as opposed to the object itself.

A dog might out of desperation. Animals have gnawed through their own limbs out of desperation.

 

[SalixIncendium]

There are two persons. Both caught by same deadly disease. Doctor told truth to one of them. Now, one knows, and the another one don't knows.
Is this knowledge good ?

I think, knowledge is NOT a good thing.

If you contrary with the statement. then tell me that which particular knowledge you think is good ?

Truth about what? One knows what?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Example ?

I consider that you used knowledge of disease, death and people to compose the OP. You could have gone many other routes with that knowledge in composing an OP and it would still be the same knowledge.

 

[chinu]

But someone intent on suicide does

Why Not jump in a water ? rather than a high place ? Perhaps, jumping in water is more difficult suicide ?
Common sense it is ? or a knowledge ?

 

[Father Heathen]

Knowledge ceases to be knowledge when it is a common sense. Even a dog doesn't jumps from a high place.

Let's pretend that it "ceases to be knowledge". You would still need knowledge beforehand.

 

[AppieB]

There are two persons. Both caught by same deadly disease. Doctor told truth to one of them. Now, one knows, and the another one don't knows.
Is this knowledge good ?

I think, knowledge is NOT a good thing.

If you contrary with the statement. then tell me that which particular knowledge you think is good ?

Generally speaking knowledge is a good thing. It can move you towards happiness and away from unhappiness. For instance knowledge about medicine and health care.

 

[chinu]

Generally speaking knowledge is a good thing. It can move you towards happiness and away from unhappiness. For instance knowledge about medicine and health care.

A nowborn baby doesn't have any knowledge about medicine and healthcare. Why baby more happy ? Even in the ancient times when there were no such subjects like medicine and healthcare, a newborn baby was happy.

 

[AppieB]

A nowborn baby doesn't have any knowledge about medicine and healthcare. Why baby more happy ? Even in the ancient times when there were no such subjects like medicine and healthcare, a newborn baby was happy.

Are they more happy? What's your source?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

We know that handguns are designed to kill people. I am aware they have other uses, but the fact of their origin remains.

A person has a handgun in a drawer. The person knows how to use it, what that use is and the implications of that use. All knowledge.

People armed with handguns invade the home where the drawer and handgun are while the person and their family are home.

Is knowledge about the handgun different for the home owners and the invaders? Is killing a good thing an evil thing or sometimes a necessary thing? Would it be good or evil or just stupid for the occupants of the home to do nothing to stop the armed invaders and let them rob, pillage and rape as they choose? Are poor choices and faulty predictions evil? Perhaps the poor choice is that the invaders chose the wrong home to invade.

I believe the evil or good is the intent and use of knowledge and not the knowledge itself which can be used in many ways to produce many outcomes.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

A nowborn baby doesn't have any knowledge about medicine and healthcare. Why baby more happy ? Even in the ancient times when there were no such subjects like medicine and healthcare, a newborn baby was happy.

Is the person that does not know how to raise animals, grow crops or cook less happy with the meal than one that does. Certainly, the farmer and the cook can derive satisfaction in enjoying the fruits of their labor or seeing others enjoy it, but they have knowledge. Perhaps those nonfarmers and noncooks know of the farmers and cooks work and skill and express happiness for that knowledge.

You are talking about the ignorance of knowledge and not the knowledge itself. Knowing or not knowing something changes how it effects us not the knowledge itself.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

A nowborn baby doesn't have any knowledge about medicine and healthcare. Why baby more happy ? Even in the ancient times when there were no such subjects like medicine and healthcare, a newborn baby was happy.

There are limitations to what a newborn can know or understand. Does it know what knowledge is? Does it have much knowledge at all? How is the knowledge state changed by these facts? How much knowledge do you need in order to choose or act? Do you perceive the quantity, condition and application of knowledge to change some property in that knowledge so that it is good or evil? What is the property and how does it change?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

There are two persons. Both caught by same deadly disease. Doctor told truth to one of them. Now, one knows, and the another one don't knows.
Is this knowledge good ?

I think, knowledge is NOT a good thing.

If you contrary with the statement. then tell me that which particular knowledge you think is good ?

I love questions like this. They give us the opportunity to examine very basic aspects of existence and extend that to what we know, think and feel.

Thank you for posing it.

 

[AppieB]

There are two persons. Both caught by same deadly disease. Doctor told truth to one of them. Now, one knows, and the another one don't knows.
Is this knowledge good ?

I think, knowledge is NOT a good thing.

If you contrary with the statement. then tell me that which particular knowledge you think is good ?

Would you want to know if there was something poisonous in your food?
Would you want to know what happened to your car when it breaks down so you could repair it?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

for example ?

I would like to know if I have a terminal disease, so to me it is better to know than not knowing.

 

[1213]

Is knowledge good or bad thing ?

I don't think knowledge is on itself good, nor bad. What you do with the knowledge can be good, or bad.

 

[wellwisher]

There are two persons. Both caught by same deadly disease. Doctor told truth to one of them. Now, one knows, and the another one don't knows.
Is this knowledge good ?

I think, knowledge is NOT a good thing.

If you contrary with the statement. then tell me that which particular knowledge you think is good ?

Does anyone remember COVID? This was a deadly pandemic disease and not something more isolated, like having a rare disease. With both medical science and politics still using casino math, their common oracle approach led to many people overreacting, doing more long term harm than good, especially over protecting children from the black box bogeyman. Others handled the oracle news better, and tried to keep life normal and not let black box fear overwhelm them. If science had been able to offer rational knowledge, then we could avoided the irrational pitfalls of black box knowledge.

Personally, I looked at the the short term mortality data after the first 10K deaths. It was clear that those who were most at risk were the elderly, overweight with respiratory and/or heart conditions. Children were practically immune from the beginning. I struck me that maybe this was a Socialist still planned disease, to lower health care costs by eliminating the highest costs demographics.

I decided this pattern would remain and I would take my chances. I did not allow the black box of political fear mongering to dominate my brain, even when I got censored for spreading hope, since logic was on my side. However, the self righteous fear was strong. That must have looked like magic to those who live by the fuzzy dice knowledge from the oracle of the black box. The black box can create fear even when the fear does not apply to you, since the black box places you in the cold darkness of uncertainty, inducing a negative placebo affect in the herd.

One interesting side affect was all the rip off artists, had a field day, exploiting the black box fear, with $billions of tax dollar stolen in plain sight. I wonder if this was all connected?

 

[chinu]

I don't think knowledge is on itself good, nor bad. What you do with the knowledge can be good, or bad.

Example ?

 

[ChristineM]

Example ?

There are several examples on this very thread

 

[sayak83]

There are two persons. Both caught by same deadly disease. Doctor told truth to one of them. Now, one knows, and the another one don't knows.
Is this knowledge good ?

I think, knowledge is NOT a good thing.

If you contrary with the statement. then tell me that which particular knowledge you think is good ?

The person who knows also knows he has limited time of life left, so he can prioritise on things that are really important in that short time. That way the limited time will be more meaningful.
The person who does not know, cannot prirotize like this and he is likely to waste his time on things that are trifles given his situation. So when he leaves the world, he would have lived a less meaningful and incomplete life.
So yes, knowledge would be much much better than ignorance in this case.

 

[chinu]

There are several examples on this very thread

And your favorite is which one ?