If there is a hell, what percentage of humans should go there?

[Treasure Hunter]

Most cling to the concept of hell due to an emotional need for the sadistic gratification they receive from the imagined comeuppance.

It is way deeper than this. At the base level of the mind, there are two categories - life and death. The kingdom and the underworld.

Casting sinners out is not foremost about punishment or justice; it’s about an attempt to restore the kingdom. It’s very matter-of-fact. No sin in the kingdom, so cast out the sin to where it’s supposed to be. Like taking out the trash. Justice comes later.

 

[cataway]

Living forever on earth is not even in the equation, and just because you want it does not make it true.
Everyone dies physically and that is forever because nobody rises from the dead.

There is no kingdom government that will be run my Jesus because Jesus is never coming back to this world.
Jesus never promised to return to earth, not once in the New Testament.
Jesus said His work was finished here and He was no more in the world.

John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.

John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.

Jesus never claimed to be a king, and Jesus never said He was coming to rule.

John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

John 18:37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

the scriptures you used do not apply

 

[Trailblazer]

the scriptures you used do not apply

Apply to what? Why don't they apply?
Do you just throw out scriptures because you don't like what they say?
The Bible is the Bible. Either it is all God's Truth or none of it is.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

That is true. Hitler may not be resurrected, we may see if he is or is not, but you're right, God did not tell Adam or Eve that they would be tortured forever. He simply said, they will die. Go back to the dust. He never said He would take their souls somewhere else and have them 'live' there wherever...If anyone, no matter how bad they are, is not given the opportunity for everlasting life, they will not suffer; they will not know about it. They'll be dead. So you bring out a good point.

I find it interesting that you mentioned that Hitler may not be resurrected.
One woman in her 90's who died a decade ago slept with a picture of Hitler.
She and other Germans have insisted to me that Hitler knew nothing about the camps, it was men under him and Not Hitler.
So, it might seem that if he was Not resurrected then Hitler could be idolized as a Hero to them.
Whereas, on being resurrected then everyone could come to see his true colors, so to speak.
For sure, the wicked will be 'destroyed forever' as per Psalms 92:7; 104:35

 

[URAVIP2ME]

The rebels will go there and will not seek mercy from God. Among them, the righteous will enter the Kingdom.

I find rebels (Satan was rebellious) do not seek mercy because such rebels will be ' destroyed forever ' - Psalms 92:7; 104:35; Proverbs 2:21-22
For us, the choice is 'repent' or 'perish' (be destroyed) - 2nd Peter 3:9
Yes, the righteous will enter the kingdom because the resurrection is for both: the righteous and unrighteous - Acts 24:15
They have the opportunity to be part of God's Kingdom because God's Kingdom will reign over Earth.
As far as being resurrected to Heaven that is only for people like those of Luke 22:28-30; Daniel 7:18.
The are classed as 'saints or holy ones' and have that first or earlier resurrection mentioned at Rev. 20:6; 5:9-10

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Most cling to the concept of hell due to an emotional need for the sadistic gratification they receive from the imagined comeuppance.

I have come across some that seem to have masochistic tendencies, so I wonder if punishment by fire beings delight to them.
Years ago while visiting with a cousin-in-law she said there was an interesting nature picture on TV.
I watched only part of the nature film because it was all about one animal harming another animal, and she was delighting in it.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Living forever on earth is not even in the equation, and just because you want it does not make it true.
Everyone dies physically and that is forever because nobody rises from the dead.
There is no kingdom government that will be run my Jesus because Jesus is never coming back to this world.
Jesus never promised to return to earth, not once in the New Testament.
Jesus said His work was finished here and He was no more in the world.
John 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
John 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
John 19:30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.
Jesus never claimed to be a king, and Jesus never said He was coming to rule.
John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
John 18:37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

Yes, at John 18:37 Jesus answered 'that to this end' (to be king) I was born, .........
Jesus is to be King of God's Kingdom for one-thousand years - 1st Cor. 15:24-26
Jesus would never be King on Earth but governs over Earth from Heaven - Rev. 20:6 (thus, his Kingdom is Not of this world of badness)
Please notice the title Jesus has at his soon coming Glory Time at Matt. 25:34 .... then the "King" will say.......
Plus, please notice that we are all invited to pray the invitation to God for Jesus to come ! - Rev. 22:20,2
There would be No point asking God for Jesus to come if he was Not coming.
Jesus is not coming alone but with angelic armies - Rev. 19:14-15

 

[Trailblazer]

Yes, at John 18:37 Jesus answered 'that to this end' (to be king) I was born, .........

Jesus did not answer that He was born to be a king. Jesus answered: Thou sayest that I am a king.
After that Jesus told Pilate the reason that He was born and came into the world, so that He could bear witness to the truth about God..

John 18:37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

 

[YoursTrue]

I find it interesting that you mentioned that Hitler may not be resurrected.
One woman in her 90's who died a decade ago slept with a picture of Hitler.
She and other Germans have insisted to me that Hitler knew nothing about the camps, it was men under him and Not Hitler.
So, it might seem that if he was Not resurrected then Hitler could be idolized as a Hero to them.
Whereas, on being resurrected then everyone could come to see his true colors, so to speak.
For sure, the wicked will be 'destroyed forever' as per Psalms 92:7; 104:35

I don't know if Hitler will be resurrected. He may or not be resurrected. As you say, we'll see in the resurrection, and interesting point you make about circumstances during the war.

 

[YoursTrue]

God's creation did not fail, it did exactly as God intended for it to do. Some people fail, some succeed.

There is absolutely no logical connection between God knowing our actions and God causing our actions.
If you think there is a logical connection, please explain how knowing something is going to happen causes it to happen.

Let me ask you this: (ok, a few things--) I haven't read all of the posts, so please excuse if you've answered this before. Do you believe that God designated a very hot, uncomfortable place for unrepentant sinners to live in, perhaps forever or maybe a while? And do you believe that God knows everything about everybody before they are even born, or created such as Adam and Eve were?

 

[YoursTrue]

Jesus did not answer that He was born to be a king. Jesus answered: Thou sayest that I am a king.
After that Jesus told Pilate the reason that He was born and came into the world, so that He could bear witness to the truth about God..

John 18:37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

Let me put it this way to you -- if someone said that to me, I would think: he is saying, he "may be a king, I better think about this." That is, if I am impressed with him and not thinking he's a big liar.

 

[YoursTrue]

Most cling to the concept of hell due to an emotional need for the sadistic gratification they receive from the imagined comeuppance.

I have found from my experience going to various places of worship, few actually study and read the scriptures diligently but may sometimes pick and choose a few scriptures. The concept of hell-fire is a teaching of some religions and those who believe in these things, imo, have not really examined the Bible but have a form of worship.

 

[The Hammer]

It's a BIG IF.

0%

No one deserves eternal damnation.

 

[The Hammer]

I don't see this as an "if" at all.

I don't know about "should." The goal, is, of course, 0%, but in my experience, just about everyone I've met has taken themselves there.

Hyuup!

 

[F1fan]

It's a BIG IF.

How many people will go to hell? How many Christians are there? Do Muslims believe in hell too? If so they are going as well.

My argument is that anyone who believes in a literal hell is already there.

 

[cataway]

Apply to what? Why don't they apply?
Do you just throw out scriptures because you don't like what they say?
The Bible is the Bible. Either it is all God's Truth or none of it is.

they don't apply because there are essentially two groups . one that does go to heaven . and one that lives here on earth .those that go to heaven govern those on the earth ,you may of heard of them ,?? the first of them were 12 disciples, they were but the first of the ones in that governing office . Jesus referred to them as the little flock . ok, i am way over your head . safe to say you have been lied to all of your life , as to what happens in the kingdom. the high probability is you are not going to have a heavenly calling. sorry to burst your bubble . better to learn now then latter.

 

[Willamena]

48.6%

 

[Trailblazer]

Do you believe that God designated a very hot, uncomfortable place for unrepentant sinners to live in, perhaps forever or maybe a while?

No, I do not believe in such a place. I believe that hell is the state of the soul, not a geographical location.

And do you believe that God knows everything about everybody before they are even born, or created such as Adam and Eve were?

Yes, I believe that God knows everything about everybody before they are even born and that is all written on the Tablet of Fate, which is also called the Book of Life.

 

[Trailblazer]

Let me put it this way to you -- if someone said that to me, I would think: he is saying, he "may be a king, I better think about this." That is, if I am impressed with him and not thinking he's a big liar.

If all that Jesus said was "Thou sayest that I am a king" He would have been leaving it open-ended, giving us something to think about.
But that sentence was followed by the real reason Jesus came into this world, which was not to be a king: "To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice."

 

[Trailblazer]

they don't apply because there are essentially two groups . one that does go to heaven . and one that lives here on earth .those that go to heaven govern those on the earth ,you may of heard of them ,?? the first of them were 12 disciples, they were but the first of the ones in that governing office . Jesus referred to them as the little flock . ok, i am way over your head . safe to say you have been lied to all of your life , as to what happens in the kingdom. the high probability is you are not going to have a heavenly calling. sorry to burst your bubble . better to learn now then latter.

I don't know where you are getting all this, but it certainly is not from the Bible.
Sorry to burst your bubble but there will be nobody living on earth except the live people who are born here, and they will live here until they die.

In other words, once you are dead you are dead, and you aren't rising from the grave and coming back to life to live on earth.
The souls of everyone who dies goes to the spiritual world and takes on a spiritual body and lives forever. Some go to heaven and others don't.