What do you think about other religions?

[Trailblazer]

Why should a Hindu find this Baha'i view of interest or relevant to their religion?

To coin a new phrase, that might be called Baha'icentricism. I want no part of it.
We all have our own beliefs which should be respected 'in the manner' in which we believe them.

 

[CG Didymus]

Well I do not know which form of Hinduism you follow. Only I can mention the Baha’i view that Baha’u’llah is the reincarnation of Krishna which should be of interest to Hindus who follow Krishna. So if that is true, then Baha’u’llah, as the reincarnation of Krishna is very much relevant to Hindus and not just ‘another religion’.

“To Him the Bhagavad-Gita of the Hindus had referred as the "Most Great Spirit," the "Tenth Avatar," the "Immaculate Manifestation of Krishna.”


God Passes By
Shoghi Effendi

If Krishna was the 8th, who do Baha'is believe were the previous seven? Then, if Buddha is the 9th and Baha'u'llah the 10th, why is Jesus, Muhammad, the Bab and probably Moses and Zoroaster and Abraham left off the list? Things don't add up.

 

[CG Didymus]

I think superstition is the common ground between religions and for that reason religious people are suspicious of other religions.

Superstitions aren't mentioned much, but at least some religions, I think, were based a lot on the superstitions of the people and culture.

 

[lukethethird]

To coin a new phrase, that might be called Baha'icentricism. I want no part of it.
We all have our own beliefs which should be respected 'in the manner' in which we believe them.

I don't respect, but I do acknowledge the beliefs of any given religion, beyond that I reserve the right to consider any of them to be ridiculous.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Why should a Hindu find this Baha'i view of interest or relevant to their religion?

Only those who follow Krishna would because we believe Baha’u’llah is Kalki Avatar.

 

[loverofhumanity]

Buddhists basically believe that it is irrelevant to believe in a creator-god and the Buddha is not considered one.

Yes I’m aware of that but there is no doubt in my mind that Buddhist revere Buddha as Christians do Christ in their prayers, meditations, social forms of worship and house of worship erected in their memory. Today Buddhists do not worship God as the Abrahamic religions do is one thing but they worship Buddha as a deity just like Christian’s do Christ and the reality on the ground speaks that.

Buddhists pray to Buddha just like Christians pray to Christ. Eliminate the outward word ‘God’ but in essence it’s the same reality that is being invoked in my personal opinion.
This is just a sample. No prayer to God but to Buddha. To me it’s no real difference except in outward form. But it’s just my personal view.

https://www.nantien.org.au/en/buddhism/pearls-wisdom/prayer-upon-arising-morning

Oh great, compassionate Buddha!

Please help me increase my wisdom;

Please help me open my mind.

May I be able to appreciate the wonders of sky and earth;

May I be able to be grateful for the warmth of the world;

May I be able to obtain the assistance of friends;

May I be able to realize the value of Dharma.



Oh great, compassionate Buddha!

Please help me become a person wealthy in spirit

Every day, may I give with joy;

Every day, may I willingly form affinity with others;

Every day, may I practice loving-kindness, compassion, joy and equanimity;

Every day, may I treat people with tolerance and generosity.



Oh great, compassionate Buddha!

Please help me become a brave person in life:

May I be able to purify my thoughts;

May I be able to contribute often;

May I be able to do no wrong;

May I be able to do only good.

 

[LuisDantas]

Yes I’m aware of that but there is no doubt in my mind that Buddhist revere Buddha as Christians do Christ in their prayers, meditations, social forms of worship and house of worship erected in their memory. Today Buddhists do not worship God as the Abrahamic religions do is one thing but they worship Buddha as a deity just like Christian’s do Christ and the reality on the ground speaks that.

All traditions have their people who ought to know better. We are no exception. But we hope to learn better.

 

[loverofhumanity]

All traditions have their people who ought to know better. We are no exception. But we hope to learn better.

I remember reading a long time ago, possibly 40 years ago where the Buddha is reported to have said to His followers that after His passing not to weave myths around Him and not to worship Him or maybe build statues im not sure about the statues.

But if you are aware of a similar quote I would be very grateful if you could let me know. I know Buddha did not agree with superstition.

 

[Trailblazer]

I do acknowledge the beliefs of any given religion, beyond that I reserve the right to consider any of them to be ridiculous.

Same here, and I consider some of them ridiculous.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Only those who follow Krishna would because we believe Baha’u’llah is Kalki Avatar.

If I believed Joe Biden was the reincarnation Baha'u'llah, would this be of interest or relevant to you or the Baha'i Faith?

 

[metis]

Today Buddhists do not worship God as the Abrahamic religions do is one thing but they worship Buddha as a deity just like Christian’s do Christ and the reality on the ground speaks that.

Some do, and some don't.

Buddhists pray to Buddha just like Christians pray to Christ.

"Buddhism" is not monolithic, and probably most Buddhists here in the west would find themselves in a different league in Asia whereas what you say above is more common.

When so many French began to convert to Buddhism, the Dalai Lama told them that it is unnecessary as they could take what the learn from Old Sid and apply it to their everyday lives as a Christian or in secular living.

 

[samtonga43]

Well I do not know which form of Hinduism you follow. Only I can mention the Baha’i view that Baha’u’llah is the reincarnation of Krishna which should be of interest to Hindus who follow Krishna.
So if that is true, then Baha’u’llah, as the reincarnation of Krishna is very much relevant to Hindus and not just ‘another religion’.

I have noticed this phrase (see bold) used a lot by MrB's followers.

 

[CG Didymus]

If I believed Joe Biden was the reincarnation Baha'u'llah, would this be of interest or relevant to you or the Baha'i Faith?

I don't know where the Baha'i teachings on Krisha, Kalki and Baha'u'llah being the Kalki Avatar even came from. Only one quote came up when I entered "Baha'i quotes about Krisha" It was this...

The Message of Krishna is the message of love. All God's prophets have brought the message of love.
‘Abdu’l-Bahá, Paris Talks, p. 35

Then this was an answer written on behalf of the Guardian of the Baha'is...

Your question concerning Brahma and Krishna: such matters, as no reference occurs to them in the Teachings, are left for students of history and religion to resolve and clarify. (From a letter written on behalf of Shoghi Effendi - 14 April 1941)

So, I wonder where the Baha'i beliefs about Krishna and that Baha'u'llah is the Kalki Avatar come from?

 

[Vinayaka]

I don't know where the Baha'i teachings on Krisha, Kalki and Baha'u'llah being the Kalki Avatar even came from. Only one quote came up when I entered "Baha'i quotes about Krisha" It was this...

Then this was an answer written on behalf of the Guardian of the Baha'is...



So, I wonder where the Baha'i beliefs about Krishna and that Baha'u'llah is the Kalki Avatar come from?

Seems to be a more modern take, perhaps started by the Bahais of India specifically to look better (compatible) there in their eyes for Hindus to accept. But it shows a great lack of understanding, and nobody is fooled.

 

[CG Didymus]

Seems to be a more modern take, perhaps started by the Bahais of India specifically to look better (compatible) there in their eyes for Hindus to accept. But it shows a great lack of understanding, and nobody is fooled.

You'd think something as important as telling the Hindus, all Hindus, that yes indeed... Krishna was a true manifestation/messenger of the one true God. The same God that Jews, Christians and Muslims believe in. But not exactly like the multiple Gods that some Hindus believe in. But Baha'u'llah didn't?

Well, Loverofhumanity isn't responding to me anymore, so I hope one of the other Baha'is has an answer. There's is a couple of articles about Krishna and Hinduism. One of them is here... How Baha’is View Hindus, Krishna and Monotheism This one has another quote that at least mentions Krishna.

Oh, I just found a quote from Shoghi Effendi thats says Baha'u'llah is the "reincarnation of Krishna".

Concerning the uniqueness of Bahá’u’lláh’s station and the greatness of His Revelation, Shoghi Effendi affirms that the prophetic statements concerning the “Day of God,” found in the Sacred Scriptures of past Dispensations, are fulfilled by the advent of Bahá’u’lláh:

To Israel He was neither more nor less than the incarnation of the “Everlasting Father,” the “Lord of Hosts” come down “with ten thousands of saints”; to Christendom Christ returned “in the glory of the Father”; to Shí‘ah Islám the return of the Imám Ḥusayn; to Sunní Islám the descent of the “Spirit of God” (Jesus Christ); to the Zoroastrians the promised Sháh-Bahrám; to the Hindus the reincarnation of Krishna; to the Buddhists the fifth Buddha.

And here is another article about Kalki and Krishna. Here's a quote...

Here, the “reincarnation of Krishna” is analyzed and described as the “Tenth Avatar,” which is the Kalki Avatar. However, since Baha’is do not believe in reincarnation as such, here Baha’is understand the “reincarnation of Krishna” to mean the return of the previous spirit and power of Krishna—not as the literal return of Krishna’s individuality or soul.

 

[Vinayaka]

You'd think something as important as telling the Hindus, all Hindus, that yes indeed... Krishna was a true manifestation/messenger of the one true God. The same God that Jews, Christians and Muslims believe in. But not exactly like the multiple Gods that some Hindus believe in. But Baha'u'llah didn't?

Well, Loverofhumanity isn't responding to me anymore, so I hope one of the other Baha'is has an answer. There's is a couple of articles about Krishna and Hinduism. One of them is here... How Baha’is View Hindus, Krishna and Monotheism This one has another quote that at least mentions Krishna.

Oh, I just found a quote from Shoghi Effendi thats says Baha'u'llah is the "reincarnation of Krishna".



And here is another article about Kalki and Krishna. Here's a quote...

It's telling that he refers to Shia Islam, not just Islam, but then refers to Hinduism, not just Vaishnava Hinduism.

 

[loverofhumanity]

I think superstition is the common ground between religions and for that reason religious people are suspicious of other religions.

All of the major religions teach love and brotherhood. I wouldn’t call that superstition but an essential need of our age.

 

[Palehorse]

They get closer to GOD.....

 

[Palehorse]

They don't know how to interpet....bibles..
IdDK....
Silly question....?....mark
...

 

[lukethethird]

All of the major religions teach love and brotherhood. I wouldn’t call that superstition but an essential need of our age.

Religion is a double edged sword, we are social animals by nature, for those that can't get along religion might be just as right for haters as it is for do gooders because religion can have a nasty way of dealing with non believers and enemies. There's a mighty warm place for those that don't believe and for those that don't give to the cause, not a lot of love and brotherhood in that. If you have to learn love and brotherhood from a religion there might be something wrong with you because it ought to come natural to us.