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[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Please see my post # 592.
Jesus dealt with moral issues Not political. So, genuine Christians would follow in his footsteps, so to speak.
Jesus and his followers were politically neutral and did Not get involved in the issues of the day between Jews and Romans.

And it could be argued that it is why he failed to change anything.

 

[Sheldon]

Abortion is a 'moral issue' between the person and God.

This is a poor way to frame your objection to abortion, since many people do not believe in a deity or deities. I can't speak for others of course, but it seems unlikely they would be swayed by such a claim.

 

[Wildswanderer]

This is a poor way to frame your objection to abortion, since many people do not believe in a deity or deities. I can't speak for others of course, but it seems unlikely they would be swayed by such a claim.

Everyone talks to God... eventually.

 

[Revoltingest]

Everyone talks to God... eventually.

I've had Bible thumpers tell me that.
The Bible says so.
But I'm evidence otherwise.
(Never talked to fictional entities.)

 

[Sheldon]

Everyone talks to God... eventually.

I don't believe you, though what this has to do with my post is hard to see? Try again and see if you can understand why the argument was poorly made, and see if you can offer something cogent, beyond a bare irrelevant and unevidenced claim.

Telling atheists a deity is morally opposed to abortion is rather pointless, just as pointless as telling atheists they will "eventually speak to a deity". It is a very poor argument, sadly doubling down on it seems to be all you have here.

 

[Viker]

Everyone talks to God... eventually.

I have Cornijer, the Other, the Father, the Brother, Lucifer, Another, the Daughter, the Mother and the Many to the One to talk to. Occasionally, there are more to communicate with. Very stimulating convos at that.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I am truly sorry you suffered such abuse for decades. Are you saying your parents should have aborted you? Do you wish you hadn’t been born? I don’t know that abortion would prevent child abuse, though.

Yes. I don’t have children because my family tree is in desperate need of withering away. Not sure how you think they can abuse me if I were never born.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

In Scripture -> Jesus and his followers were: politically neutral. No political ties. ( Nothing to hide there ).
The using of politics has been a 'false clergy tactic' who to try to throne or dethrone kings (political rulers).
Jesus taught his kingdom, his government is Not part of this world ( Not part of the political world ).
Remember: Jesus said MANY would come in his name but prove false at Matthew 7:21-23.
The political will topple the religious world so why would a follower of Jesus want to be part of a toppled world?
By surprise the powers in charge will turn on the religious world as per 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3.
When the powers in charge are saying, " Peace and Security...." that will prove to be the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14,9.
So, religion with political ties will come to their final end.

And like many politicians, Jesus is lying. He and John the Baptist were against temple authority for various reasons.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Eve comes after Adam's naming job.
Adam could easily been 30 years of age before being introduced to Eve.
We don't know how long, how much time had passed, before Eve chose to break God's law.

Not a single episode suggests that they are mentally mature. Eve ate the fruit because it looked delicious. She didn’t give a dissertation on the philosophy of disobedience.

 

[Wildswanderer]

I've had Bible thumpers tell me that.
The Bible says so.
But I'm evidence otherwise.
(Never talked to fictional entities.)

Yet.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Telling atheists a deity is morally opposed to abortion is rather pointless

I know, because they don't actually have any basis for morality. It's just what feels good to them.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Yet.

Well, you are the evidence. And I can't be wrong, because that is not possible, so you don't exist. I have absolute faith in that. In fact you are a fignation of the Devil, trying to tempt me. That is how real you are.

That is how faith of your kind works. You just received it in reverse.
So can you just keep your faith as yours for how the rest of us should cope as humans?

 

[Revoltingest]

Yet.

My view is that we're all atheists.
Believers just haven't recovered from their indoctrination.
<snicker>
But I know many former believers who woke up to become
heathens. And in a sense, we really generally all atheists
cuz we don't believe in all those other people's false gods.
I just believe in one less god than Abrahamics do.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I know, because they don't actually have any basis for morality. It's just what feels good to them.

Yeah, that would be true as per brain scans. The same would be the case for you.

 

[Wildswanderer]

My view is that we're all atheists.
Believers just haven't recovered from their indoctrination.

The opposite also happens. So?

 

[Revoltingest]

The opposite also happens. So?

Even atheists can have mental breakdowns.
We're not all perfect.

 

[Viker]

Even atheists can have mental breakdowns.
We're not all perfect.

My view has just been shattered.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Even atheists can have mental breakdowns.
We're not all perfect.

Ixnay on the azycray! We have an image to maintain.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Yeah, that would be true as per brain scans. The same would be the case for you.

If I only did things that felt good I would never have changed a single diaper...

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Everyone talks to God... eventually.

Ogma? Lugh? The Morrigan? Epona?