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Drinking and smoking?

IndigoChild5559

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Riders said:
Well the 2 people who caught them when they did not know they were being seen, were 2 pastors of a different branch. So I assume the reason they are upset and called it unpastoral behavior is that the church teaches it's wrong.
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But just because the denomination teaches it is wrong doesn't mean they personally teach that it is wrong. In order for something to be classified as hypocrisy, the actions must be different from the words.
 
nPeace

nPeace

Veteran Member
SalixIncendium said:
Having some heath benefits does not equal "good for you." Also with these health benefits come risk of certain types of cancers.

Moderate alcohol consumption may provide some health benefits, such as:

  • Reducing your risk of developing and dying of heart disease
  • Possibly reducing your risk of ischemic stroke (when the arteries to your brain become narrowed or blocked, causing severely reduced blood flow)
  • Possibly reducing your risk of diabetes

However, eating a healthy diet and being physically active have much greater health benefits and have been more extensively studied.

Keep in mind that even moderate alcohol use isn't risk-free. For example, even light drinkers (those who have no more than one drink a day) have a tiny, but real, increased risk of some cancers, such as esophageal cancer. And drinking and driving is never a good idea.
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Also, if you are going to post such generalizations about a potentially dangerous intoxicant, it's helpful to define terms:

Moderate alcohol use for healthy adults generally means up to one drink a day for women and up to two drinks a day for men.

Examples of one drink include:

  • Beer: 12 fluid ounces (355 milliliters)
  • Wine: 5 fluid ounces (148 milliliters)
  • Distilled spirits (80 proof): 1.5 fluid ounces (44 milliliters)
Alcohol in moderation: How many drinks is that?
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I personally think that added alcohol (spirits) is not good for us.
However, I think natural fermentation of no more than 35%, is good for us.
It's actually good for the stomach - 1 Timothy 5:23

Natural vs Conventional
 
The Hammer

The Hammer

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Premium Member
Secret Chief said:
The body is a temple, not a brothel. :D
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Says who?

"“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!” "
 
Saint Frankenstein

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
SalixIncendium said:
Well, I stand corrected. If the 106-year-old lady says it's nutritious, who am I to argue?
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I wasn't getting that from her. That was mostly a bit of levity (most of the people aged 100+ people I've read about seemed to enjoy a drink, smoke and meat, though). Some of us have bothered to read about these things before issuing blanket judgements about it.
 
SalixIncendium

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
Saint Frankenstein said:
I wasn't getting that from her. That was mostly a bit of levity (most of the people aged 100+ people I've read about seemed to enjoy a drink, smoke and meat, though). Some of us have bothered to read about these things before issuing blanket judgements about it.
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Yes, some of us have.

And a few of us quite extensively, even prior to this thread.
 
RestlessSoul

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
nPeace said:
Interestingly, I was looking at this article, only moments ago.
Tobacco Sponsors Sports
The tobacco industry’s extensive use of sports events and other entertainment for promoting their products creates “a positive association between sports . . . and cigarette smoking,” says Rhonda Galbally, of Australia’s Victorian Health Promotion Foundation. As a result, the often subtle tobacco advertising in sports may induce people to smoke. The Cancer Research Campaign in Britain found that “boys who enjoy watching Formula One motor racing on television are almost twice as likely to start smoking,” reports the news agency Panos. “Across Europe, tobacco companies spend several hundred million dollars every year in support of car racing alone.” And the cars are mobile advertisements that often appear on television.
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;) Ha, no, that sort of racing has never interested me in the slightest; horse racing, on the other hand, where you have your last tenner on the last race at Ascot, and your fate is in the hands of Frankie Dettori on the favourite...
 
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Riders said:
...What do you teach about drinking and smoking? ...
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I don't think drinking is bad, getting trunk is not good, therefore I think it would be best not to get drunk. Ans smoking, in Biblical point of view, body is a temple for Holy Spirit, I think it would be best to keep it clean.

Don’t be drunken with wine, in which is dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit,
Eph. 5:18

Or don’t you know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit which is in you, which you have from God? You are not your own,
1 Cor. 6:19

And generally, I think this advice is good:

”All things are lawful for me," but not all things are expedient. "All things are lawful for me," but I will not be brought under the power of anything.
1 Corinthians 6:12

"All things are lawful for me," but not all things are profitable. "All things are lawful for me," but not all things build up."
1 Corinthians 10:23

Smoking and too much drinking is not good, therefore it would be best to not do it.
 
Secret Chief

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
The Hammer said:
Says who?

"“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!” "
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Me, just. Who said your quote? :)
 
Secret Chief

Secret Chief

nirvana is samsara
The fundamental problem with this toxin is that it is addictive. So amongst all the people who are moderate drinkers some of these will eventually become addicted... and no longer moderating.

(Said by someone who drank alcohol for nearly 40 years and given up for medical reasons).
 
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