questfortruth
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Please do not modify my proof to make it sound stupid. OK?I removed the annoying extra line breaks
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Please do not modify my proof to make it sound stupid. OK?I removed the annoying extra line breaks
I can not see it. There is no problem. The only "problem" is what God made me genius.You are assuming your conclusion in your premises, more than once.
Consider the possibility of a God who knows everything.
Then He knows what God exists. Thus, in order to know everything, you need to know that you exist.
This is part of the knowledge. Part of the Truth. Thus, the possibility of God's existence becomes
a proven fact.
You could reply: "God exists, only not like a Christian's fairytale, but real in the form of a More Developed Civilization of the Universe."
Don't you live in a fairy tale? An electron is both a particle and a wave.
Faith is FAITHfulness. Not blindness. Therefore, God is faithful to Himself. This means that God believes in Himself.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/357367515_PROOF_OF_JESUS_ON_OMNISCIENCE
Miracle!
There are many verses in Bible. You can support nearly any statement, if you have skills.
No problem with logic of mine.
Religious claims remain subjective and anecdotal without supporting objective verifiable evidence,
scripture cannot prove scripture it is circular reasoning.
It is motive for suicide. But it is sin.
There is no problem there.
All good comes from God. It is good not to know something.
There are two gods. The satan and Jesus. The satan has murdered the Jesus, but He is alive now.
The sins of the people fuel the satan.
Please do not modify my proof to make it sound stupid. OK?
I can not see it. There is no problem. The only "problem" is what God made me genius.
1. If God exists, He knows about it.
2. God knows all, hence God exists for real.
Consider the possibility of a God who knows everything.
Then He knows what God exists. Thus, in order to know everything, you need to know that you exist.
This is part of the knowledge. Part of the Truth. Thus, the possibility of God's existence becomes
a proven fact..........................
There are a couple of ways to look at this. Technically, it was Pilate who had Yeshua crucified. But, given Yahweh's alleged omniscience and omnipotence, you might say the Father Murdered the Son. Then you might say the Jews had Yeshua crucified. However, Satan had no hand in the death of Yeshua, in fact, Satan doesn't even hurt anyone in the Christian bible, whereas Yahweh is a bloodthirsty, jealous, murderer.There are two gods. The satan and Jesus. The satan has murdered the Jesus, but He is alive now.
The sins of the people fuel the satan.
Do not modify my proof to make it look stupid. OK?1. If Santa exists, he knows about it.
Satan doesn't even hurt anyone in the Christian bible, whereas Yahweh is a bloodthirsty, jealous, murderer.
God does Not know everything.
Do not modify my proof to make it look stupid. OK?1. If Santa exists, he knows about it.
Allow me to explain your reasoning.Consider this:
God Doesn't Exist
- If God exists, then God is omnipotent, omniscient, and morally perfect.
- If God is omnipotent, then God has the power to eliminate all evil.
- If God is omniscient, then God knows when evil exists.
- If God is morally perfect, then God has the desire to eliminate all evil.
- Evil exists.
- If evil exists and God exists, then either God doesn’t have the power to eliminate all evil, or doesn’t know when evil exists or doesn’t have the desire to eliminate all evil.
- Therefore, God doesn’t exist.
Nope.Tanakh is the old Testament right? Isn't that for Jews and New Testament for Christians?
I always find that the Islamic sects loves to give these "Atrocities" as evidence that the God of the Bible is some bloodthirsty murderer.There are a couple of ways to look at this. Technically, it was Pilate who had Yeshua crucified. But, given Yahweh's alleged omniscience and omnipotence, you might say the Father Murdered the Son. Then you might say the Jews had Yeshua crucified. However, Satan had no hand in the death of Yeshua, in fact, Satan doesn't even hurt anyone in the Christian bible, whereas Yahweh is a bloodthirsty, jealous, murderer.
1 Chronicles 21
-God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people
Deuteronomy 3
-God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. -He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value
Joshua 6
-He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses”
-In (Judges 21) He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead
2 Kings 10:18-27
God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church!
Judges 21:10-24
God has an entire town killed and the virgins repeatedly raped, and then wanted more virgins, so they hid beside the road to kidnap and rape some more.
Numbers 31:7-18
"They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men . . . Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves.
Deuteronomy 20:10-14
"As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you."
Deuteronomy 21:10-14
"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house . . . After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife."
In total God kills 371,186 people directly
Satan - 0
If you have the skill to explain verses from the Bible, you will never find that Satan is GOOD.There are many verses in Bible. You can support nearly any statement, if you have skills.
At a lodging place on the way, the Lord met Moses[ a] and was about to kill him.If you have the skill to explain verses from the Bible, you will never find that Satan is GOOD.
Mmm, if one takes the scant historical archaeology of 2000 years ago, it is also very easy to disprove any of the critisizim you mention.In my considered view, Christian claims to be ─ what's the word? ─ inheritors or owners or successors of the Tanakh / Old Testament are untenable.
Jesus is not a Jewish messiah, for instance, nor is he in any other sense a liberator of the Jews. Rather his followers, starting even back when the gospel of John was written, become the greatest, most persistent, most oppressive, rapacious and murderous antisemites in history.
Equally untenable are Christian claims that the Tanakh / Old Testament contains prophecies of Jesus. Rather, it's plain that large parts of the gospels were written by choosing passages from the Tanakh that appealed to their authors as "prophecies" and moving their Jesuses through invented scenes that "fulfill" those purported "prophecies". They all do it ─ it's an aspect of the midrash tradition ─ but few so baldly as the author of Matthew eg ─
He requires Mary to have been a virgin, very likely because the LXX in translating Isaiah 7:14 had rendered Hebrew 'almah, young woman, as parthenos, virgin; (the mother of Mark's Jesus, for example, is an ordinary Jewish citizen, no annunciations, heralding angels &c, and he doesn't become God's son till God adopts him on his baptism; while the parentage of the Jesuses of Paul and of John is worth no more mention than that they (unlike Mark's Jesus) were descended from David.
The author of Matthew invents the unhistoric 'Taxation Census' story to get Jesus to be born in Bethlehem to “fulfill” Micah 5:2.
He invents the unhistoric 'Massacre of the Innocents' story to get Jesus into Egypt to “fulfill” Hosea 11.1.
He absurdly sits Jesus across a foal and a donkey to ride into Jerusalem "to fulfill prophecy" (Matthew 21:2-5) in Zechariah 9.9.
And so on.
You left out 99%of the text in your reply?At a lodging place on the way, the Lord met Moses[ a] and was about to kill him.
Exodus 4: 24-26
Can you imagine, that loving Jesus has made a plot to harm most great Prophet?
No. It was satan, not Jesus. Because there are two gods in Bible under word god.
When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacob’s hip so that his hip was wrenchedYou left out 99%of the text in your reply?
Of course if you pick just one line you can read anything into it, but it does not mean you have the full understanding of what it actually means.
You could start by explaining to me how Jesus fits with the Jewish concept of a messiah, and how come his followers are the most notorious antisemites in history.Mmm, if one takes the scant historical archaeology of 2000 years ago, it is also very easy to disprove any of the critisizim you mention.
Jacob Wrestles With GodWhen the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacob’s hip so that his hip was wrenched
Genesis 32:25
Can you imagine, the the Jesus the healer of the sick, has made His chosen Jacob the cripple.
It is dangerous to loose health 2500 years ago. It was satan, not Jesus. There are two gods in Bible.
Under word God can be meant either satan or Jesus. There are two gods in Bible.It is because I saw God face to face