That’s actually not a possibility even though your ego at this time does not like that. You exist and are conscious only because you have the spark of the source God/Brahman animating you.
Says you.
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That’s actually not a possibility even though your ego at this time does not like that. You exist and are conscious only because you have the spark of the source God/Brahman animating you.
As I said in my first post I was speaking from Advaita philosophy.Says you.
As I said in my first post I was speaking from Advaita philosophy.
In Advaita philosophy only Consciousness/God/Brahman is real. Creation/Maya is an illusion.
That is not expected that one start from scratch in every thread. This thread was asking about the 'Goals and purpose in creation' in our philosophy.Its really more helpful and productive to say why you believe things are true, instead of just declaring them to be so.
In anti-conformism philosophy how/why did this system of Maya come about per the OP topic 'Goals and purpose in creation'? Any goals or purpose?In my anti-conformism philosophy (haha) - maya is still very much real, the suffering is real, all felt is real. Even if temporary. Illusion meaning that this universe or dualverse or world is not as it seems, is almost stranger than fiction, is very subtly deceptive, is entirely upside-down and backwards, many layers of veil’s over the minds. It is like a grand trick of deception, some of it hilarious and much of it very disturbing and grotesque.
In anti-conformism philosophy how/why did this system of Maya come about per the OP topic 'Goals and purpose in creation'? Any goals or purpose?
So what would be the point of this?
Fortunately in the philosophy I find best explains reality the play has a positive ending for all; eventual mergence in love and Oneness.In ways, it is pretty funny how the more harmless aspects of this “Maya” have mankind fleeced. In many other ways, it is pretty twisted, and disturbing- no laughing matter. So there really isn’t anything special of a creation of ignorant species and then tricking them so easily, dividing them and making fight themselves while a god or gods laugh. It would be like a cheap and weak thrill for gods to do such. I suppose it can be a challenge going through the process from an ignorant/stupid human to learning, becoming aware of the program, going from inauthentic and dead to authentic and alive, to no longer gullible or naive, being made strong, alert, desiring Truth or liberation.
I mean, if I were the programmer or designer of mankind.... it would be too easy. I’d know precisely how to steer it, guide it through fear or emotion, shame, guilt, manipulate it, get it to perform my will all while thinking it is free, choosing itself, thinking it is doing good when it’s doing evil instead, I’d have it mocking and making fun of the actual Truth and believing in practically nothing but lies and illusions while watching them think they are highly intelligent. I’d know how to do this all because I were the one that created and coded it all. So what would be the point of this?
Fortunately in the philosophy I find best explains reality the play has a positive ending for all; eventual mergence in love and Oneness.
The sick and demented characters and actors that Brahman loves to be in its play, and the rest- holding them accountable for karma and Maya that they don’t remember or ever asked for.
It gets deep. At the ultimate level we are the playwright of our script. The temporaries you’re concerned about will come and go.Certainly hope there is a reasonable ending for all if it were so, the species against all odds. Although I’m sure many wouldn’t care or want to love all or be one with all. If someone’s authentic ego had no choice to be as you said earlier- doesn’t sound like an entity that wants anything “free-willed.”
As for a torturing trickster(s) if they were so, anyone with minimal ability of awareness can see the suffering going on in this “reality.” The sick and demented characters and actors that Brahman loves to be in its play, and the rest- holding them accountable for karma and Maya that they don’t remember or ever asked for.
I believe that the purpose of our existence to become like God - Our Father - a perfected and immortal Being - enjoying eternal life.
Does humanity exhibit goals and purposes? or Are humans mindlessly made with every function of a human being is arbitrary and signifying nothing?
How do you justify your position?
Some very reasonable people consider the idea that meaning and purpose is apart of the universe. That somehow life is special.
I agree with the argument in the video.
For me it is apparent that life,and in particular, humanity exhibits goals and purposes in their form and function.
The argument puts forth that God, or magic isn't an explanation, and I agree with that as well.
But is there a life principle to existence?
What was your purpose in starting this thread?
Does humanity exhibit goals and purposes? or Are humans mindlessly made with every function of a human being is arbitrary and signifying nothing?
How do you justify your position?
Some very reasonable people consider the idea that meaning and purpose is apart of the universe. That somehow life is special.
I agree with the argument in the video.
For me it is apparent that life,and in particular, humanity exhibits goals and purposes in their form and function.
The argument puts forth that God, or magic isn't an explanation, and I agree with that as well.
But is there a life principle to existence?
What was your purpose in starting this thread?
Sorry, my remark was rhetorical. In other words, you clearly had a purpose in starting this thread, obviously, and all who answered felt obligated to offer their opinions which equally had a purpose (eg: set people straight).To see if people can see that humans, and other living creatures exhibit functions that exhibit purposes. To see if anyone can see the orchestration and organization of their own being.
I wouldn't call it perfect, and I wouldn't say it is designed, but there is evidence of intellect in the creation of life. It's not entirely obvious, but it is proof that life isn't a cosmic accident.
I think that there is much to see in nature that appears mindless, and without any plan. But not everything.
I was looking for direct refutations as well of what I am certain is the case. And I see the opposite intuition is quite mainstream.