I cannot dance and don't do alcohol, and most definitely don't do gods.
Other than that... i just don't see me doing any kind of religious ritual.
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I cannot dance and don't do alcohol, and most definitely don't do gods.
Other than that... i just don't see me doing any kind of religious ritual.
Bear Wild
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We treat women and men as equals. Maybe a goddess or two? Think about it. They do not even have to look like humans. My cat even thinks he is a god.
Generally, unless people are indoctrinated by family, or because of a psychological need for friends, world views come about because of experiences. Since all people on this planet have individual sets of experiences, we all have different world views. To think otherwise, or hold the idea that we should all think the same way, is folly.
I should bloody well hope so.
Aphrodite and Anoia are the two gods i worship,
As do mine. Many moons ago cats were though of as gods, they have never forgotten...
age 18 i had my first and last drunk, home brewed poiten at a Hogmanay party in Glasgow. I woke up 80 miles away without my car and no way to get back to it, without my virginity and no way to get it back. Every drink of water i had hit me like a sledgehammer leaving me drunk and serious hung over at the same time for 3 days.
I promised then, never again, to a pretty large extent ive kept that promise. I will join in a toast and have a glass at celebration's but that's it, never been drunk since.
But i use a hell of a lot of loopy juice in cooking.
Sounds like we have similar constitutions. I can have half a light beer ... maybe. Last time I got hammered was about 40 years ago ... wine and cheese on a Friday after work. I was still puking Sunday afternoon, but did manage to get back to work Monday. So yeah, same here.
My teenage oft repeated parenting advice that they got sick of ... "Bad things happen when you drink."
Sorry that happened to you. But hey you learned.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Thank You.. Question, how do i 'mention' a particular user?
You use @ and the person's name like this: @TSTS
It's not. When I was a short term catholic, I felt it helped to an extent. I had a community of followers. So, ideally, we'd all be on similar lines of thinking with the basics. It gives people a sense of continuity-as they are the ones carrying on the tradition so others may benefit. In Catholicism, what I do like, is emphasis on individual prayers and time with god. So, people aren't just being "religious" but taking the time to connect with the group or alone with god.
Outside things are compilations to worship just as a chair helps one sit and the bible helps one know christ and other comparisons. Its not meant to replace one's spirituality but to enhance it.
Its the practice that's structured not the relationship with the unknown. Many religions outside abrahamic as well have traditions and things they do that help enhance their belief, practice, and/or relationship. I think it's very common in most religions.
For example, if you don't know about, say, driving a car you may read the manual to find the rules on what to do and not do. You may also find a teacher to help you with the driving test. Of course you need to watch for other drivers "and" they are driving with you just as you with them. So, it's one unit but each person has their own car.
Each person has their own personal experience in their cars and they have to follow the rules to drive. Some religions they find the instruction and teacher useful until they can drive on their own while others consult with the Manuel. But it doesn't devalue the experience, just ways to obtain it.
Just because your destination is unknown, for some people, that doesn't mean a manual is not needed to at least drive the car to get there.
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TSTS
Member
Humor is a great quality @SalixIncendium
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I would have thought who/what we are is what affects the world.
There is the belief of what reality is, and there is the actuality of what reality is. There is a difference between religiosity and a religious mind. In both cases the latter deals with actual reality, imho.
Can you say more on this?
Please see the distinction i have made above.
Seems to have failed in all three. Does my above distinction explain why?
TSTS
Member
Please see my previous post.
TSTS
Member
A practice is a mechanical action isn't it? Any enhancements is also mechanical isn't it?
So from the seeds of mechanistic activity we hope to capture the unnameable...hope sure is strange isn't it?
TSTS
Member
By previous i meant the one immediately above which would have been #50. Thank you for your answer to op. No further contribution is necessary unless you feel like it.
No it doesn't.
And I don't see it as having failed all three, considering it has helped me with all three, and more.
TSTS
Member
I was talking about observable reality of the human world in general. Wasn't talking about unverifiable personal claims.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
I don't believe so. From someone looking outside it, it definitely does. However, I believe each person has their personal relationship or experience with or in the unknown and whether they chant, do the rosary, or dance, when you're fully involved its spirituality in itself. For example, if you have a passion-say painting-one doesn't ask why do you keep painting the same thing or paint every other hour of the day. We see it as that person's passion and he's improving and making things congruent with maybe his thoughts, creativity, and just like to paint. It's the same with religion. It's really an individual person's decision whether ritual works for them or not. Regardless, though, I don't see either as right or wrong.
I mean, take someone who reads the bible everyday, have conventions about the bible, spend two hours studying the bible, and quote nothing but the bible. It's ritualistic and does have spiritual value to the people involved just as much so as someone without those means and show spirituality by their actions without needing to speak a word of scripture.
I think they each have their place.
osgart
Nothing my eye, Something for sure
Whatever and whomever made us is not something or someone with all the answers. They may have vast knowledge of existence. However we are in an early stage of development. Existence made us to learn and discover itself. I would say the force that created us struggles mightily. Nothing in existence is perfectly done.
I think there's enough in nature to know that we are not merely the product of brute physical forces. To me the world of meaning, values, and ideas has a very real dimension to it. If meaning were not important we wouldn't have the capacity for it. We are built to discover, and to learn, and to do things exquisitely well. Existence is more like a verb than a noun.
If personal claims weren't a part of observable reality, psychology wouldn't be around as a science.
TSTS
Member
If personal claims weren't a part of observable reality, psychology wouldn't be around as a science.
Psychology is around to tell us that unverifiable personal claims are part of schizoid disorders, divorced from reality. But perhaps more so it exists as a cash cow.
But perhaps for the seekers of truth it is necessary to put aside all kinds of acquired authority, so an unbiased exploration into reality can take place.
I am glad you decided to continue with your 'contributions'. It's funny how these things work isn't it?