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Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
The hilarious thing about your text below is that i know for a fact, that satanists are not worshippers of lucifer, but are worshippers of nature. And i understand what that means. I also know about the process one goes through to be baptised into nature, and that there are covens. And if you are among them, i know what it is that you people do where you are not physically present.
You wanna know what the hilarious thing is?
You're wrong. There is no worshiping nature, no being "baptized into nature," and coven is a term Wiccans use. And, truthfully, what you are describing sounds way more like Wicca than any LHP philosophy or religion.
Im not sure if you are a satanist now, judging by your text at the bottom of your posts
I am.
i know what it is that you people do where you are not physically present.
"You people." :rolleyes:
but it was good that you did not go into ministry...
How kind of you to make such judgements and assumptions about me. It's not unusual for people to do so. Whatever the reason, many find it easier just to simply dismiss my former status than consider that it was a real thing.
No man should ever go into ministry without having revelations from GOD to share to the people. For the only one who should is a person trained by GOD directly. And that would eliminate 100% of the preachers in the earth today.
Then why do we still have so many of them running around? When are they all going away?
 

Yahcubs777

Active Member
You wanna know what the hilarious thing is?
You're wrong. There is no worshiping nature, no being "baptized into nature," and coven is a term Wiccans use. And, truthfully, what you are describing sounds way more like Wicca than any LHP philosophy or religion.

I am.

"You people." :rolleyes:

How kind of you to make such judgements and assumptions about me. It's not unusual for people to do so. Whatever the reason, many find it easier just to simply dismiss my former status than consider that it was a real thing.

Then why do we still have so many of them running around? When are they all going away?

If you haven't known this, then you are a very low rank or you are lying.
I said nature, but i said i know what that is. I didn't say its the nature of the earth.
Then we have nothing to do discuss. The Gospel of the kingdom is not for you.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
If you haven't known this, then you are a very low rank or you are lying.
I said nature, but i said i know what that is. I didn't say its the nature of the earth.
Then we have nothing to do discuss. The Gospel of the kingdom is not for you.
You don't know even know the difference between a Luciferian and a neo-Pagan.
You are very much doing that judging thing your messiah told you not to do.
No, we don't have much to discuss.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Then you haven't understood what wisdom is. Wisdom is profitable to direct. Solomon was supposed to receive that wisdom from GOD. If that's true, then it's not the same as the others mentioned. How can solomon have that height of wisdom, and turn away from GOD?

Free will is badly misunderstood. We act according to what we see is good for us. We act also according to our own understanding. And we do things we like to do. If we are doing things we don't want to do, then that is kind of like being forced do it for whatever reason. Still you chose to be in that situation.

But the height of Solomons wisdom, coming directly from the GOD, is not the kind that can lead someone to depart from the ways of GOD. The mindset solomon had, along with his height of understanding, cannot lead to making foolish decisions. The reason this is so delicate, is because we are talking about wisdom from GOD. The kind that maketh the wise to be foolish. Not the kind of scientists. The kind that scientists will also be in awe of.

How can Solomon with that height of wisdom, turn away from the source of that wisdom? Its not the kind that if you have it, you can make mistakes because your understanding won't allow it.

Father Adam did something only he can do that was a must do for his children. But let us stay on topic here.
In reference to your assertion, the only sinless man was Jesus Christ. He was tempted by the Devil, but he refused such an offer that the Devil gave him, and Jesus told him to get away from him. No one was like Jesus, without sin. Adam also was without sin until he decided to sin against Jehovah.
 

YoursTrue

Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
College town, ay? Cheater.:p
I don't know about the state as a whole, but where I lived does have quite a few Jews. Not that many, and German and English surnames are by far the predominate and most common (lots of unrelated Jones, Schmidtz, Smiths even Amish and not-Amish Yoders), but they're definitely there and have left a lasting presence in some spots (though not necessarily a known name attached, like some of the older houses they built).
And am I'm guess the horned Moses lady, I don't know what she was but a minority of herself in that regards, as it's definitely not taught in the sea of Protestant churches. Most would probably consider it a great offense for making Moses look like the devil. It is an interesting thing, however.
Because of the Latin Vulgate Bible, which was popular during Michelangelo's time. It was taught and accepted.
"...the Hebrew word translated “horned” also has the meaning ‘send forth rays’ or ‘shine.’ (See footnote of the Douay Version at Exodus 34:29.) According to the Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament, the word “denotes the form of a horn(s) rather than the substance.” And viewed pictorially, rays of light do actually resemble horns."
So many people have seen that famous statue of Moses (with horns on his head) at the Vatican. And, until Bible translation was more accurate, people believed Moses had horns.
Moses With Horns—An Artistic Curio — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY (jw.org)
I can understand your previous fear about the depiction of hell, promoted by many churches as well as those like Cotton Mather, a "fiery" speaker, shall we say? I never believed it anyway, even though I had no knowledge at the time of the Bible. Later, I learned. Now, if I heard someone talk about Jews with horns, I wouldn't be too afraid of asking them how they know that and if they'd like to go over a few detals from the Bible and translation with me sometime. :)
 

Yahcubs777

Active Member
You don't know even know the difference between a Luciferian and a neo-Pagan.
You are very much doing that judging thing your messiah told you not to do.
No, we don't have much to discuss.

Believe me, i know about your religion than you do. And all religions are designed to worship lucifer, knowingly or unknowingly. Luciferian is not a religion, satanism is. And lucifer is a satanist.
You may not have learned these things yet, if you ever will. My GOD, told us to judge righteously. Let my judgement of you be measured back to me. I am not concerned at all since i know what your highest ranking officials do. And i am also not expecting you to agree witth me. But know this, The expositions of satanism are raining in the earth today.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Proverbs 22:6

6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.

1 kings
10 And when the queen of Sheba heard of the fame of Solomon concerning the name of the Lord, she came to prove him with hard questions.

2 And she came to Jerusalem with a very great train, with camels that bare spices, and very much gold, and precious stones: and when she was come to Solomon, she communed with him of all that was in her heart.

3 And Solomon told her all her questions: there was not any thing hid from the king, which he told her not.

4 And when the queen of Sheba had seen all Solomon's wisdom, and the house that he had built,

5 And the meat of his table, and the sitting of his servants, and the attendance of his ministers, and their apparel, and his cupbearers, and his ascent by which he went up unto the house of the Lord; there was no more spirit in her.

6 And she said to the king, It was a true report that I heard in mine own land of thy acts and of thy wisdom.

7 Howbeit I believed not the words, until I came, and mine eyes had seen it: and, behold, the half was not told me: thy wisdom and prosperity exceedeth the fame which I heard.

8 Happy are thy men, happy are these thy servants, which stand continually before thee, and that hear thy wisdom.

9 Blessed be the Lord thy God, which delighted in thee, to set thee on the throne of Israel: because the Lord loved Israel for ever, therefore made he thee king, to do judgment and justice.

10 And she gave the king an hundred and twenty talents of gold, and of spices very great store, and precious stones: there came no more such abundance of spices as these which the queen of Sheba gave to king Solomon.

11 And the navy also of Hiram, that brought gold from Ophir, brought in from Ophir great plenty of almug trees, and precious stones.

12 And the king made of the almug trees pillars for the house of the Lord, and for the king's house, harps also and psalteries for singers: there came no such almug trees, nor were seen unto this day.

13 And king Solomon gave unto the queen of Sheba all her desire, whatsoever she asked, beside that which Solomon gave her of his royal bounty. So she turned and went to her own country, she and her servants.

14 Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold,


In Luke it is written

Luke 11
“The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with the men of this generation, and condemn them: for she came from the utmost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.”

Ive posted three different passages here.

The first is a verse n Proverbs, who the words of Proverbs is believed to be Solomon.
The second is the event where the queen of Sheba came to see him for herself.
The third is the passage where Jesus His Pre-Eminence reveals HE is greater than that solomon.

Now here is the question to discuss in the thread.

Is Proverbs 22:6 true? If it is true, then how do you explain that Solomon, who was given wisdom by the GOD, trained by the GOD, departed from the ways of GOD as he grew older?


Quoting Solomons story and the association of a child growing up seems ironic to me. 600 wives and 300 concubines seems like an absolutely stupid thing to do, though you are king. Not the way to go. :)

Nevertheless, it is kind of absurd to think that prophets like this sin so monstrously, like David who got a man killed to get his wife, and Solomon who being a prophet who actually delivered God's message turned away from God.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Believe me, i know about your religion than you do. And all religions are designed to worship lucifer, knowingly or unknowingly. Luciferian is not a religion, satanism is. And lucifer is a satanist.
You may not have learned these things yet, if you ever will. My GOD, told us to judge righteously. Let my judgement of you be measured back to me. I am not concerned at all since i know what your highest ranking officials do. And i am also not expecting you to agree witth me. But know this, The expositions of satanism are raining in the earth today.

SO you are an expert in Islam?
 

Teritos

Active Member
This is a man that was said to receive wisdom from the GOD of David, why then would he worship other gods?
Perhaps because God wanted it? If Solomon had never committed this sin, Israel would never have been divided and thus history would have been different. Everything happens because God wants it that way. We are living in God's plan.
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
If it is true, then how do you explain that Solomon, who was given wisdom by the GOD, trained by the GOD, departed from the ways of GOD as he grew older?
Because the Sheba story is propaganda and Solomon was so “wise “ he had to outsource building a temple that is basically a large rectangle.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Believe me, i know about your religion than you do. And all religions are designed to worship lucifer, knowingly or unknowingly. Luciferian is not a religion, satanism is. And lucifer is a satanist.
You don't know snakes from dildos about any religion other than you own apparently. Luficerian isn't a religion? I've been a Luciferian for years.
And all religions worship Lucifer? Thou shalt not bear false witness, and you're doing a lot of it.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Do you see this verse as just as an advice, or say a path that is deductive. That is to say... If you do train your child up the way that he should go, then the child cannot depart from them. Or, that you can do the best you can, and hope he doesn't depart from them. This is an important difference.

I personally see it as the former.

We basically raise our children by the world we know. However when they are an adult out on their own they see its a different world. As long as we raise them with common sense, thinking skills, the concept of right/wrong, etc then in my opinion they will adapt to the world they know.
 

Yahcubs777

Active Member
Perhaps because God wanted it? If Solomon had never committed this sin, Israel would never have been divided and thus history would have been different. Everything happens because God wants it that way. We are living in God's plan.

Its not about committing sin. Its about not worshipping false gods when the GOD of creation is the one that gave you wisdom. And that wisdom is not something that should be taken lightly. This is a wrong mindset. GOD has not predestined everyone and everything, only thsoe HE foreknew as it is written. GOD also has predestined the church, and the earth. But to claim for instance that GOD predestines tares is a wrong mindset.
 

Yahcubs777

Active Member
We basically raise our children by the world we know. However when they are an adult out on their own they see its a different world. As long as we raise them with common sense, thinking skills, the concept of right/wrong, etc then in my opinion they will adapt to the world they know.

But we are not GOD. And we are not imparting wisdom that is above all. But thank you for answering the question.
 

Yahcubs777

Active Member
You don't know snakes from dildos about any religion other than you own apparently. Luficerian isn't a religion? I've been a Luciferian for years.
And all religions worship Lucifer? Thou shalt not bear false witness, and you're doing a lot of it.

lol so lucifer talks to you? I bet you don't even know what a cherub is. None of this is false witness. I bet you don't even know what the 7 heads of the beast is.
 

Yahcubs777

Active Member
Quoting Solomons story and the association of a child growing up seems ironic to me. 600 wives and 300 concubines seems like an absolutely stupid thing to do, though you are king. Not the way to go. :)

Nevertheless, it is kind of absurd to think that prophets like this sin so monstrously, like David who got a man killed to get his wife, and Solomon who being a prophet who actually delivered God's message turned away from God.

Solomon is not a prophet. King David is in the similitudes of somebody. King David was called a man after GOD's own heart. And Prophets also have struggles else sin is not true. For the sin nature is the mortal body. But talking about his wives and concubines is not the thing that discouraged the queen of sheba coming to him, nor the people that served under him. This shouldn't be taken lightly since we are talking about a people that wer very zealous of the law.
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
Solomon is not a prophet. King David is in the similitudes of somebody. King David was called a man after GOD's own heart. And Prophets also have struggles else sin is not true. For the sin nature is the mortal body. But talking about his wives and concubines is not the thing that discouraged the queen of sheba coming to him, nor the people that served under him. This shouldn't be taken lightly since we are talking about a people that wer very zealous of the law.

Hmm. So in your theology, is King David a prophet?
 

Yahcubs777

Active Member
Hmm. So in your theology, is King David a prophet?

King David played the similitude of the Son of GOD, Adam, who is greater than the Prophet. However, what makes a person a Prophet is the ability to hear from the GOD inaudibly in their Spirit Being, then also decipher and assimilate, and teach the people. A Prophet is not sent without a message to the people that has to do with how they can be saved (in this earth), or has to do with matters from the GOD (in heaven). A Prophet in the earth, is also a Prophet in heaven.
 
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