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Curiosity?

nPeace

Veteran Member
They say curiosity killed the cat... but they also say the cat has nine lives.
So I am going to use up one of my lives, in this thread.

Did Life On Earth Actually Originate On Mars?
I'm curious about their curiosity.
Why are scientists speculating about Earth being seeded by Mars, with organic life?
When they speculate on what may, might, could have, happened, and they can't prove it, how are they or others benefitted? Does it cure illnesses... terrorism.... domestic abuse.... prejudices.... wars.... poverty.... crime....?

Why are they so curious to spend billions of dollars, on Mars, and someone can plant a bomb - not in a relatively secluded area, but in the parking lot of scores of schools, and detonate it precisely when they want it to... and go unnoticed?

Why couldn't Earth have seeded life on Mars, with its bazillions of organic microbes that existed millions of years ago?
I'm curious.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
I'm not so sure it's that life on Earth originated on Mars as that it came to Earth (and/or Mars) from 'somewhere else' via an asteroid. And perhaps to other bodies in our solar system, as well. We have been finding life forms that survive incredible environmental extremes, and what appear to be multiple points of origin, on Earth. And this has a lot of people speculating, I think.

Also, logically, life could have developed according to several chemical paradigms, if it had developed here on Earth. And yet none of these other possible chemical paradigms have ever been found, here. Not even failed attempts. It's as if only one "strain" of these possible chemical paradigms came here from somewhere else.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
They say curiosity killed the cat... but they also say the cat has nine lives.
So I am going to use up one of my lives, in this thread.

Did Life On Earth Actually Originate On Mars?
I'm curious about their curiosity.
Why are scientists speculating about Earth being seeded by Mars, with organic life?
When they speculate on what may, might, could have, happened, and they can't prove it, how are they or others benefitted? Does it cure illnesses... terrorism.... domestic abuse.... prejudices.... wars.... poverty.... crime....?

Why are they so curious to spend billions of dollars, on Mars, and someone can plant a bomb - not in a relatively secluded area, but in the parking lot of scores of schools, and detonate it precisely when they want it to... and go unnoticed?

Why couldn't Earth have seeded life on Mars, with its bazillions of organic microbes that existed millions of years ago?
I'm curious.
A. Scirnce never proves anything
B. Bssic research often looks pointless,
often gets no known or immediate results,
maybe nothing worthwhile ever.

When someone first made a laser it was a useless curiosity.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
They say curiosity killed the cat... but they also say the cat has nine lives.
So I am going to use up one of my lives, in this thread.

Did Life On Earth Actually Originate On Mars?
I'm curious about their curiosity.
Why are scientists speculating about Earth being seeded by Mars, with organic life?
When they speculate on what may, might, could have, happened, and they can't prove it, how are they or others benefitted? Does it cure illnesses... terrorism.... domestic abuse.... prejudices.... wars.... poverty.... crime....?

Why are they so curious to spend billions of dollars, on Mars, and someone can plant a bomb - not in a relatively secluded area, but in the parking lot of scores of schools, and detonate it precisely when they want it to... and go unnoticed?

Why couldn't Earth have seeded life on Mars, with its bazillions of organic microbes that existed millions of years ago?
I'm curious.

Its called a hypothesis, usually based on some evidence, however obscure. Ive not read your link or any papers on the subject so i don't know what that evidence is.

Its rather like god dun it with magic only with something (however tenuous) to back it up

As to curiosity, its the human condition and the science involved usually benefits humanity, often in unimagined ways.

Indeed, why couldn't earth have seeded mars? Put the idea forward to the scientific community concerned...
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
They say curiosity killed the cat...
Ignorance killed the cat - curiosity was framed.
but they also say the cat has nine lives.
So I am going to use up one of my lives, in this thread.

Did Life On Earth Actually Originate On Mars?
I'm curious about their curiosity.
Why are scientists speculating about Earth being seeded by Mars, with organic life?
Earth had life surprisingly early. There are stromatolites in Australia estimated to be 3.8 billion years old. That leaves pretty little time for life to form on earth (and we have no clue how that happened). Given that life then took another 2 billion years to go multicellular (a thing we can induce in the lab), that begs for an explanation.

Then there is ALH84001, a meteorite, probably originated from Mars that was once thought to be carrying fossilised microbes.
Why couldn't Earth have seeded life on Mars, with its bazillions of organic microbes that existed millions of years ago?
I'm curious.
Earth has a stronger gravity than Mars and it has an atmosphere. Rocks, knocked out of Earth are likely to fall back or stay in orbit. Mars rocks are more likely to be spread elsewhere.
 

sayak83

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
They say curiosity killed the cat... but they also say the cat has nine lives.
So I am going to use up one of my lives, in this thread.

Did Life On Earth Actually Originate On Mars?
I'm curious about their curiosity.
Why are scientists speculating about Earth being seeded by Mars, with organic life?
When they speculate on what may, might, could have, happened, and they can't prove it, how are they or others benefitted? Does it cure illnesses... terrorism.... domestic abuse.... prejudices.... wars.... poverty.... crime....?

Why are they so curious to spend billions of dollars, on Mars, and someone can plant a bomb - not in a relatively secluded area, but in the parking lot of scores of schools, and detonate it precisely when they want it to... and go unnoticed?

Why couldn't Earth have seeded life on Mars, with its bazillions of organic microbes that existed millions of years ago?
I'm curious.
I believe that understanding the beginning of life on earth and ( if it happened) in other planets is an important enough question to spend research funding on. Exploring and Understanding the universe is clearly something many many people and societies have lots of interest in doing.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Why are they so curious to spend billions of dollars, on Mars, and someone can plant a bomb - not in a relatively secluded area, but in the parking lot of scores of schools, and detonate it precisely when they want it to... and go unnoticed?

Uh, it didn't go unnoticed. The van was captured on a camera. That picture led investigators to find other cameras. Those other cameras narrowed down the search. Within a day, the FBI was in the suspect's house.

Would you prefer to have more cameras? Would you be OK with implants to track everyone all the time?
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Why are they so curious to spend billions of dollars, on Mars

The computer you are sitting at was made possible, to a large extent, by man's efforts to put humans into space.

If you were around 550 years ago you probably would have complained about giving money to an Italian to try to sail to India.

If you were around in the late fifties and the sixties, you probably would have complained about the cost of putting a man in orbit.

If you were around 90,000 years ago you probably would have complained about your fellow tribe members wasting their time hitting rocks together.
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
Why are they so curious to spend billions of dollars, on Mars, and someone can plant a bomb - not in a relatively secluded area, but in the parking lot of scores of schools, and detonate it precisely when they want it to... and go unnoticed?
please present a list of bombs that exploded in parking lots with scores of schools that went unnoticed..
 

SigurdReginson

Grēne Mann
Premium Member
They say curiosity killed the cat... but they also say the cat has nine lives.
So I am going to use up one of my lives, in this thread.

Ignorance killed the cat - curiosity was framed.

I don't know why people are so concerned with what cats are doing all of a sudden. I'm more concerned about what we do as people. :D

Curiosity has worked out so far for us as a species. How far we've come in such a short amount of time is testament to that fact.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained!
 

Deeje

Avid Bible Student
Premium Member
They say curiosity killed the cat... but they also say the cat has nine lives.
So I am going to use up one of my lives, in this thread.

Did Life On Earth Actually Originate On Mars?
I'm curious about their curiosity.
Why are scientists speculating about Earth being seeded by Mars, with organic life?
When they speculate on what may, might, could have, happened, and they can't prove it, how are they or others benefitted? Does it cure illnesses... terrorism.... domestic abuse.... prejudices.... wars.... poverty.... crime....?

Why are they so curious to spend billions of dollars, on Mars, and someone can plant a bomb - not in a relatively secluded area, but in the parking lot of scores of schools, and detonate it precisely when they want it to... and go unnoticed?

Why couldn't Earth have seeded life on Mars, with its bazillions of organic microbes that existed millions of years ago?
I'm curious.

Good questions nPeace. It always fascinates me that quality of life on Earth should come first......but it doesn’t. Imagine if all the money spent on space exploration was actually spent fixing up what’s wrong with life on this planet? No one would be short of good food, clean water, clothing or anything else.

What is the point of finding out the origin of life “out there”, if you can’t take care of the life that already exists here?

Perhaps the ulterior motive of investigating the possibilities of life elsewhere is actually to have somewhere to go once they have messed this planet up irreparably? And we all know who would get the tickets....:rolleyes:

We have not only messed up the planet but have left a trail of dangerous space junk orbiting up there making future space travel a whole lot more dangerous.
How can we imagine ourselves to be so clever when we are so incredibly stupid? :facepalm:
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
They say curiosity killed the cat... but they also say the cat has nine lives.
So I am going to use up one of my lives, in this thread.

Did Life On Earth Actually Originate On Mars?
I'm curious about their curiosity.
Why are scientists speculating about Earth being seeded by Mars, with organic life?
When they speculate on what may, might, could have, happened, and they can't prove it, how are they or others benefitted? Does it cure illnesses... terrorism.... domestic abuse.... prejudices.... wars.... poverty.... crime....?

Why are they so curious to spend billions of dollars, on Mars, and someone can plant a bomb - not in a relatively secluded area, but in the parking lot of scores of schools, and detonate it precisely when they want it to... and go unnoticed?

Why couldn't Earth have seeded life on Mars, with its bazillions of organic microbes that existed millions of years ago?
I'm curious.

Considering the difficulty you have with comprehending the scientific method, it's understandable that you're confused. Why are scientists speculating about Earth being seeded? Because that's how the scientific method works. You begin with an observation, such as: There is life on Earth. Then you speculate about possible ways that life could have started on this planet. You begin with a hypothesis, an educated guess. That is, it has to be something within the realm of what we know could be possible. For instance we know that there are living microbes that can withstand the harsh condition of space between planets. We also know that meteorites from beyond our planet have landed on our planet's surface in the past. Thus it is a reasonable hypothesis that living microbes on a meteorite could have at some point in Earth's distant past struck the surface and life was thus 'seeded' on this planet.

What does scientists speculating about how life began on this planet have to do with curing illness or stopping crime's like bombs going off in parking lots or schools. Are you on the opinion that if we didn't spend time exploring things like Mars and the moon that we'd somehow miraculously find a way to prevent people from setting bombs?

Oh, and yes its IS possible that it could have worked the other way around and that potential life on Mars could have been seeded from life on Earth.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
Ignorance killed the cat - curiosity was framed.
Never heard that one before.

Earth had life surprisingly early. There are stromatolites in Australia estimated to be 3.8 billion years old. That leaves pretty little time for life to form on earth (and we have no clue how that happened). Given that life then took another 2 billion years to go multicellular (a thing we can induce in the lab), that begs for an explanation.

Then there is ALH84001, a meteorite, probably originated from Mars that was once thought to be carrying fossilised microbes.

Earth has a stronger gravity than Mars and it has an atmosphere. Rocks, knocked out of Earth are likely to fall back or stay in orbit. Mars rocks are more likely to be spread elsewhere.
The scientists are saying Earth and Mars trade debris for millions of years, so if I were an ignorant fellow, whom would you recommend I get straighten out this contradiction... you, or them?
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
I believe that understanding the beginning of life on earth and ( if it happened) in other planets is an important enough question to spend research funding on. Exploring and Understanding the universe is clearly something many many people and societies have lots of interest in doing.
You can find out!!!? Wow! How?
Now I am more than curious. I am excited. I'm listening.
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
please present a list of bombs that exploded in parking lots with scores of schools that went unnoticed..
You'll need some diving gear for this one. Right now you are on the surface.
I wasn't expecting someone would look at that so superficially.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Never heard that one before.


The scientists are saying Earth and Mars trade debris for millions of years, so if I were an ignorant fellow, whom would you recommend I get straighten out this contradiction... you, or them?

Did you manage to miss the word "likely"? There is no contradiction
 

McBell

mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
You'll need some diving gear for this one. Right now you are on the surface.
I wasn't expecting someone would look at that so superficially.
Perhaps the poor wording of it is the problem?
 

nPeace

Veteran Member
I don't know why people are so concerned with what cats are doing all of a sudden. I'm more concerned about what we do as people. :D

Curiosity has worked out so far for us as a species. How far we've come in such a short amount of time is testament to that fact.

Nothing ventured, nothing gained!
Hmm. How far we have come? Do you mean in adult toys? :D
Perhaps we are venturing in the wrong direction.
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