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Skeptic Proves That Covid 19 Isn't A Hoax

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member

That's silly. A virus is a virus regardless if it's COVID 2445 or ebola or the common cold or whatever. The person who died I wouldn't say its that person's fault. People react to the unknown in many ways some rebellion others defensive and others are indifferent insofar they care about others and themselves but keep their emotions and skepticism in check (they don't jump the band wagon). Blame, fear, etc are contagious too. But regardless, even if it were a hoax I would not be a bit surprised. Though, I would not see how that would help any one if it were unless maybe it's to get people to re-elect trump. Who knows.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
That's silly. A virus is a virus regardless if it's COVID 2445 or ebola or the common cold or whatever. The person who died I wouldn't say its that person's fault. People react to the unknown in many ways some rebellion others defensive and others are indifferent insofar they care about others and themselves but keep their emotions and skepticism in check (they don't jump the band wagon). Blame, fear, etc are contagious too. But regardless, even if it were a hoax I would not be a bit surprised. Though, I would not see how that would help any one if it were unless maybe it's to get people to re-elect trump. Who knows.
I think that the overwhelming evidence for the existence & danger of the plague
makes it fair to judge the deceased as having done a really really dumb thing.
I blame'm for their plight.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
True. Could have been just bad luck.
About luck....
It reminds me of Louis Pasteur's quote....
"Chance favors the prepared mind."
Chance also punishes the aggressively ignorant mind.
A Covid 19 party is like playing Russian roulette, ie,
one is unlucky if one dies, but one is stoopid if one plays.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
The people I know who find the plague to be either a hoax or overblown
are those who haven't seen much illness or death in their immediate
circle. It's a shame that they'll need to lose family & friends to be convinced.
.

I find it ironic that our success with the diseases that previously caused pandemics has fed into the denial of this one. People no longer commonly have loved ones who have died of smallpox, crippled by polio, or lead the long, slow decline of tuberculosis. The cyclic return of devastating diseases is simply not on the radar of most people.

This means that a *real* pandemic is out of their ken. It is something so rare and unusual that it is easier to believe it is a hoax than that the real world just doesn't obey the rules they have always lived with. And this is so because we have largely succeeded in killing off the old killers.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
The person who died I wouldn't say its that person's fault.
Despite over 2 million cases and over a half million dead, he ignored all that. It is the fault of people like him Arizona is in a very grim situation (they've enacted crises care standards. Its now here).
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I think that the overwhelming evidence for the existence & danger of the plague
makes it fair to judge the deceased as having done a really really dumb thing.
I blame'm for their plight.

They suffered the consequence of their actions. That's how I usually see it. As an opinion and feeling behind their actions and consequences, though, I don't dwell too much into it. Makes me judgmental. But outside of that, reminds me of my sister in my other post taking off her clothes with her boyfriend to make a statement and gets arrested. So, I can understand the sentiment. It's sad.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I find it ironic that our success with the diseases that previously caused pandemics has fed into the denial of this one. People no longer commonly have loved ones who have died of smallpox, crippled by polio, or lead the long, slow decline of tuberculosis. The cyclic return of devastating diseases is simply not on the radar of most people.

This means that a *real* pandemic is out of their ken. It is something so rare and unusual that it is easier to believe it is a hoax than that the real world just doesn't obey the rules they have always lived with. And this is so because we have largely succeeded in killing off the old killers.

We're so far removed from things of this nature. So, on one side people can act to the extreme because they don't know what to do. It's unfamiliar to them. On the other hand, people aren't exposed to something like this in order to make good decisions. This counts for all people government, scientist, lay public, and so forth. It's a catch 22 to an extent, I guess.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
About luck....
It reminds me of Louis Pasteur's quote....
"Chance favors the prepared mind."
Chance also punishes the aggressively ignorant mind.
A Covid 19 party is like playing Russian roulette, ie,
one is unlucky if one dies, but one is stoopid if one plays.
I would normally see these covidiots as a Darwin Award winners. But those would typically only kill those involved. Hkw many people are now themselves ill or dead, or become such, because of the denial of those who still believe as the guy mentioned in OP did? Their stupidity doesn't effect just them. It effects everyone around them.
It's why we don't deny the experts and scoff at accepted science. Except America does. And now its biting everyone in the ***.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I would normally see these covidiots as a Darwin Award winners. But those would typically only kill those involved. Hkw many people are now themselves ill or dead, or become such, because of the denial of those who still believe as the guy mentioned in OP did? Their stupidity doesn't effect just them. It effects everyone around them.
It's why we don't deny the experts and scoff at accepted science. Except America does. And now its biting everyone in the ***.
I'll disagree with experts at times.
But one should still exercise good judgment.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
They suffered the consequence of their actions. That's how I usually see it. As an opinion and feeling behind their actions and consequences, though, I don't dwell too much into it. Makes me judgmental. But outside of that, reminds me of my sister in my other post taking off her clothes with her boyfriend to make a statement and gets arrested. So, I can understand the sentiment. It's sad.
He could potentially kill my mom, or someone else's mom. Someone's child. Someone's brother. An aunt. A dear friend. Your sister's actions wont jeopardize my youngest nephew, who's not not of average health for his age and is stuck with smoking parents.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I'll disagree with experts at times.
But one should still exercise good judgment.
True, but America's covid response is a reflection of its symptom of anti-science and anti-expert. With all the threads on RF where intelligence is downplayed and dismissed, can we be surprised America isn't taking those smart and intelligent experts with all those book smarts and book learning seriously when things get just bad enough we need to care?
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
I've decided that this should be called "stupicide".
The word already exists, but this is a new definition,
ie, committing bone headed unintentional suicide.

Maybe it'll increase the mean intelligence of the gene pool. But I'm like you ... it's not just that person, it's anyone else that might be around. Just by going to the hospital, you're endangering everyone in that hospital. Some folks still haven't figured out that a mask is for protecting others, after being told 100 times.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
No cure as of yet. No one has said there will never be a cure. And already we're getting better at treating it. Rushing out as if viral russian roulette woth covid as the new permanent norm has no basis in evidence. By the end of the year we'll probably even have a bettwr understanding of the serious, total body wrecking illness this can cause.
This isn't going to be around forever. This isn't a new normal. We just need to hang in there a little longer. But it .ight be past that point in America. Too many thought as you, and unlike so many other countries we arent yet moving past this. Its basically the same foriegn policy that America loves, which is jyst keep doing the wrong thing, no matter how bad or hkw many times it ****s up, until things just happen to turn out right.

Well a cure is always the hope, but we need to be prepared for the possibility that getting a cure is not a guarantee.
 
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