Well done People's Republic of California. You have now achieved third world conditions.

[Twilight Hue]

Beyond one's wildest dreams..

California: America’s First Third-World State | National Review

California cities take on a Third World look | Times News Online

So it begs the question in light this is supposedly, from when I last heard, a first world country.

What's the game plan now Mister Chairman?

 

[Heyo]

So it begs the question in light this is supposedly, from when I last heard, a first world country.

Your sources may be mistaken.

 

[Quetzal]

I wish I knew what California did to hurt @Nowhere Man. The resentment is something I can't really understand.

 

[esmith]

Your sources may be mistaken.

So you are saying that the UCLA , you know University of Calif Los Angles, professor is mistaken?
From the article referenced:
According to Jeffrey Klausner, a professor of medicine and public health at UCLA, explained that people living on the streets or in homeless shelters are vulnerable to disease outbreaks because of weakened immune systems that are worsened by stress, malnutrition, and sleep deprivation. He said multiple rodent-borne, flea-borne illnesses already exist and predicted a major infectious epidemic.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I wish I knew what California did to hurt @Nowhere Man. The resentment is something I can't really understand.

Because anything that goes on in the People's Republic of California soon arrives at the People's Republic of New York.

 

[Heyo]

So you are saying that the UCLA , you know University of Calif Los Angles, professor is mistaken?
From the article referenced:
According to Jeffrey Klausner, a professor of medicine and public health at UCLA, explained that people living on the streets or in homeless shelters are vulnerable to disease outbreaks because of weakened immune systems that are worsened by stress, malnutrition, and sleep deprivation. He said multiple rodent-borne, flea-borne illnesses already exist and predicted a major infectious epidemic.

Nope. I don't know where you get that notion from. You may want to re-read my post and include into your consideration about what part of the OP I responded.

 

[epronovost]

Ironic considering that California is one of the richest State of the US and responsible for a huge chunk of the GDP of the country. Kansas, Mississippi or Louisianna could have a better claim to "third-world conditions". Did you know Louisianna had a childbirth death level of over 40 per 100 000? In Canada, it's 8 per 100 000 and in Norway, which leads in the domain, of only 2 per 100 000. It's almost as deadly to be pregnant in Louisianna as it is to be working as a roofer (45 death per 100 000).

PS: n California, maternity deaths were cut in half in recent years and now stand at about 7 per 100 000, so pretty much in line with other first world countries. The country average is of 23 per 100 000, which is very high amongst first world countries.

 

[Revoltingest]

I wish I knew what California did to hurt @Nowhere Man. The resentment is something I can't really understand.

We all have our triggers.
For some it's Trump.
For others it's guns.
Our friend has Californiastan.

 

[Nakosis]

Beyond one's wildest dreams..

California: America’s First Third-World State | National Review

California cities take on a Third World look | Times News Online

So it begs the question in light this is supposedly, from when I last heard, a first world country.

What's the game plan now Mister Chairman?

The state certainly has a surplus of tax revenue but can't seem to fix our homeless problem which is the largest in the nation. Got the crappiest roads, worst public schools. There's an feces map for San Francisco so if you want to visit, you can avoid stepping in it. Apparently with all of that tax revenue we can't afford porta potties for the homeless.

Homeless encampments at many of the Freeway off ramps. The other night we had some homeless guy jumping in and out of traffic banging on cars as they drove by.

 

[Father Heathen]

Ironic considering that California is one of the richest State of the US and responsible for a huge chunk of the GDP of the country. Kansas, Mississippi or Louisianna could have a better claim to "third-world conditions". Did you know Louisianna had a childbirth death level of over 40 per 100 000? In Canada, it's 8 per 100 000 and in Norway, which leads in the domain, of only 2 per 100 000. It's almost as deadly to be pregnant in Louisianna as it is to be working as a roofer (45 death per 100 000).

PS: n California, maternity deaths were cut in half in recent years and now stand at about 7 per 100 000, so pretty much in line with other first world countries. The country average is of 23 per 100 000, which is very high amongst first world countries.

But those are 'red' states, so they get a pass.

 

[Jeremiah Ames]

Beyond one's wildest dreams..

California: America’s First Third-World State | National Review

California cities take on a Third World look | Times News Online

So it begs the question in light this is supposedly, from when I last heard, a first world country.

What's the game plan now Mister Chairman?

Thanks for posting.
Pretty cool articles.
Perfect examples of what happens when you choose to give all the wealth of a community (whether it be a state or a country), to a very small few individuals.
That’s the story of almost all third world nations, and the story of where the US has been heading since the trickle-up president.
A few greedy people want it all, and when they control the community, they inevitably get it all.

 

[Polymath257]

So it begs the question in light this is supposedly, from when I last heard, a first world country.

Well, that depends on a very old definition that *defines* the US as a first world nation.

If you compare the US to essentially every other developed country, we come out poorly. We are behind all of Europe, Japan, Korea, etc on basics like poverty level, educational level, social support systems, infant death rate, health care, etc.

And that is partly because people in the US think that socialism is a bogey man to be avoided when the rest of the developed world has embraced it and limited both socialism and capitalism into a functioning system.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

I wish I knew what California did to hurt @Nowhere Man. The resentment is something I can't really understand.

It's part of the mythology cultivated by Trump where the "East Coast Elites" are the bad guys and he is the Captain of Industry upon whom the civilized world depends on.

 

[esmith]

Let's take a look at your post. Did you not post "Your sources may be mistaken"? Was not a source within the article a professor at UCLA? Hmmmm.

Your sources may be mistaken.

Nope. I don't know where you get that notion from. You may want to re-read my post and include into your consideration about what part of the OP I responded.

 

[esmith]

We all have our triggers.
For some it's Trump.
For others it's guns.
Our friend has Californiastan.

That is spelled Kaliforniastan

 

[Revoltingest]

That is spelled Kaliforniastan

Curse my liberal spellchecker!

 

[Twilight Hue]

Thanks for posting.
Pretty cool articles.
Perfect examples of what happens when you choose to give all the wealth of a community (whether it be a state or a country), to a very small few individuals.
That’s the story of almost all third world nations, and the story of where the US has been heading since the trickle-up president.
A few greedy people want it all, and when they control the community, they inevitably get it all.

It's a problem that I think requires a bipartisan solution. Unfortunately when you got the wealthy elite in charge all the time, you're just not going to get anywhere. They flat-out don't want things to change and they certainly don't and wont care about anyone else but themselves. They have no reason to.

I don't give Republicans a pass either on it but it specially seems inflammatory with the socialist Democrats who have the highest incidence of this kind of thing happening wherever they're in charge and making policy.

 

[esmith]

It's part of the mythology cultivated by Trump where the "East Coast Elites" are the bad guys and he is the Captain of Industry upon whom the civilized world depends on.

No it is well know fact that the majority of the States bordering the Atlantic an Pacific ocean's have a common sense problem. That is except on the west coast where those living some distance from the Pacific have a lot more common sense. From:
https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/northwest/idaho/article240456246.html

 

[Twilight Hue]

Well, that depends on a very old definition that *defines* the US as a first world nation.

If you compare the US to essentially every other developed country, we come out poorly. We are behind all of Europe, Japan, Korea, etc on basics like poverty level, educational level, social support systems, infant death rate, health care, etc.

And that is partly because people in the US think that socialism is a bogey man to be avoided when the rest of the developed world has embraced it and limited both socialism and capitalism into a functioning system.

Not when you have the likes of China, and Venezuela and Greece specifically.

We already know what socialism does, just by looking at California today.

I like to see people try to defend that when all you have to do is go down there and see it for yourself.

 

[Valjean]

California's problems are a result of Right Wing undermining of social policies, education, &c, and of Neo-liberal economics that undermines government's role in "promoting the general welfare."
If government abdicates its role in "promoting the General Prosperity," this is what you'd expect. Shifting the burden to private interests, which see anything that doesn't profit them as immoral, won't help either -- though it sounds good in political speeches.

"My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub.
Grover Norquist. Americans for Tax Reform.