Well done People's Republic of California. You have now achieved third world conditions.

[Twilight Hue]

Yep

 

[Brickjectivity]

Interstate highways are socialist, or so I've been told. Another way of looking at them is that they are a type of welfare robbing from workers and giving generously to everyone.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Interstate highways are socialist, or so I've been told. Another way of looking at them is that they are a type of welfare robbing from workers and giving generously to everyone.

Another ridiculous example.

Saying roads are socialism.

 

[Kooky]

Interstate highways are socialist, or so I've been told. Another way of looking at them is that they are a type of welfare robbing from workers and giving generously to everyone.

Literally anything in America can be "socialist" if some American doesn't like it. Like @Twilight Hue demonstrated, the term is effectively devoid of any meaning in American political discourse.

 

[Kooky]

Another ridiculous example.

Saying roads are socialism.

If "socialism" can mean whatever we want it to mean, as you suggested it does, then roads can of course be "socialist".

 

[Twilight Hue]

If "socialism" can mean whatever we want it to mean, as you suggested it does, then roads can of course be "socialist".

No. I regard roads as a social program. Not a political ideology.

It's hilarious when people use such examples thinking they are making a point.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Literally anything in America can be "socialist" if some American doesn't like it. Like @Twilight Hue demonstrated, the term is effectively devoid of any meaning in American political discourse.

I look forward to an opportunity to use 'Devoid' in a sentence that isn't about US federal political debates.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Beyond one's wildest dreams..

California: America’s First Third-World State | National Review

California cities take on a Third World look | Times News Online

So it begs the question in light this is supposedly, from when I last heard, a first world country.

What's the game plan now Mister Chairman?

Like it or not we're an economic powerhouse (still) and massively wealthy. People are still moving here.
Housing and constructing new ones are problematic and we need more housing, especially mutli-family units, but believe it or not many parts of California are experiencing explosive growth and new housing editions, schools, factories and so on are being built.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I wish I knew what California did to hurt @Nowhere Man. The resentment is something I can't really understand.

California and AOC. I typically forget she even exists until @Twilight Hue /Nowhere Man makes a thread about her. (How'd you link his old name to his new one?)

 

[Shadow Wolf]

No. I regard roads as a social program. Not a political ideology.

It's hilarious when people use such examples thinking they are making a point.

It actually is ideology as there are those who believe the state shouldn't be involved with it at all and give it all to private companies. And even then it depends on who the state hires. California has some good roads. Indiana hires the lowest bidder and the last major road project there that was finished before I moved from there was already cracked when it opened, and the news there did a report on how the lowest bidders are using asphalt that's below standard minimums and it will cost taxpayers more in the long run. And here about that time Indianapolis had such a terrible pot hole problem he city was paying out money for damages caused to people's cars due to the potholes. And looking things up, it seems to have been a problem still even after I left.
How to get reimbursed if your car is damaged by a pothole in Indianapolis | Fox 59

 

[Revoltingest]

Many Americans don't know what socialism is but love to use the word as an insult, a mirror to China or Russia.

As though ferriners know what it means.
I observe that very few of us use dictionaries.
Most use personal definitions.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Not when you have the likes of China, and Venezuela and Greece specifically.

We already know what socialism does, just by looking at California today.

I like to see people try to defend that when all you have to do is go down there and see it for yourself.

China and Venezuela are dictatorships, not democratic like Europe. Please at least use equivalent countries.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Where is right in California? I cant seem to find any.

Most rural areas are right and the cities are left. The city population of Cali is so large it makes it seem like the whole state is liberal, but nope.

 

[Sand Dancer]

The main culprit seems to be the housing crisis. Why in the world is housing so expensive over there?

The rest of the country is catching up. Inexpensive Florida is now a thing of the past. Greed is not good.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Most rural areas are right and the cities are left. The city population of Cali is so large it makes it seem like the whole state is liberal, but nope.

I can see that. It's how New York is.

 

[Kooky]

No. I regard roads as a social program.

You mean, like welfare, or socialized medicine.

 

[ChristineM]

As though ferriners know what it means.
I observe that very few of us use dictionaries.
Most use personal definitions.

And still the further right of American politics use the word as though its an insult.

 

[Kooky]

The rest of the country is catching up. Inexpensive Florida is now a thing of the past. Greed is not good.

I'm sure it'll go back to affordable once coastal estates are getting flooded.

 

[Revoltingest]

And still the further right of American politics use the word as though its an insult.

It seems they use it as more of a broad label for
evil, rather than an insult. It's like how the left
uses "individualist" & "privilege"
Those 2 sides...too much hatred for each other.

Common usages of "socialism"....
Left: Anything I like.
Right: Anything I hate.

 

[ChristineM]

It seems they use it as more of a broad label for
evil, rather than an insult. It's like how the left
uses "individualist" & "privilege"
Those 2 sides...too much hatred for each other.

Common usages of "socialism"....
Left: Anything I like.
Right: Anything I hate.

The way they spit it out i believe it is used as an insult. There are several on this thread (you know who) who use the words socialism/socialist in the context of insult to something they hate