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Well done People's Republic of California. You have now achieved third world conditions.

Heyo

Heyo

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Nowhere Man said:
It's a problem that I think requires a bipartisan solution. Unfortunately when you got the wealthy elite in charge all the time, you're just not going to get anywhere. They flat-out don't want things to change and they certainly don't and wont care about anyone else but themselves. They have no reason to.
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I don't know if there are any anti elitists left in the GOP, heck, there are so few in the Democratic party that it's a shame. But bipartisan solution or not, we agree upon the analysis.
I don't give Republicans a pass either on it but it specially seems inflammatory with the socialist Democrats who have the highest incidence of this kind of thing happening wherever they're in charge and making policy.
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There is no socialist democrat in the US today and the only social democrat is fighting against the Democratic Party (that is nothing more than republicans light).
 
Quagmire

Quagmire

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metis

metis

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Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
metis said:
Now that is funny, but the joke's on you because California has the 5th largest economy of any jurisdiction if the world!
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Gee, I wonder if it has anything to do with the 1 percenters living there?


I'm sure the selfish and ungrateful destitute over there would gladly agree wholeheartedly with you, and ought to be happy and not complain about their situation that they're now living in that long-awaited and overdue socialist Democrat paradise beyond their wildest dreams.
 
metis

metis

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Nowhere Man said:
Gee, I wonder if it has anything to do with the 1 percenters living there?
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Oh, so now you're changing your tune, are ya? Gee, I wonder what percent of California's population is in the upper 1% of income? Must be the majority of them, right?

Nowhere Man said:
socialist Democrat paradise beyond their wildest dreams.
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You wouldn't know a "socialist" if one came and slammed you in the butt with a base fiddle. :p

OK, I gotta a compromise for ya-- I'll say the Dems are "socialists" if you admit that Trump and his supporters are "fascists". Do we gotta deal? :shrug:
 
Valjean

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Nowhere Man said:
Gee I wonder if it has anything to do with the 1 percenters living there?


I'm sure the selfish and ungrateful destitute over there would gladly agree wholeheartedly with you, and ought to be happy and not complain about their situation that they're living in a socialist Democrat paradise.
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This "selfish and ungrateful" meme is facile neoliberal propaganda; the newest iteration of the "undeserving poor." It's an excuse to do nothing to help them.
Socialist, Democratic paradise?" Hardly. This problem is a product of the "greedy, unfeeling right." [dueling slogans, eh?] We didn't have this problem in the liberal sixties, or even seventies.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Valjean said:
This "selfish and ungrateful" meme is facile neoliberal propaganda; the newest iteration of the "undeserving poor." It's an excuse to do nothing to help them.
Socialist, Democratic paradise?" Hardly. This problem is a product of the "greedy, unfeeling right." [dueling slogans, eh?] We didn't have this problem in the liberal sixties, or even seventies.
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Where is right in California? I cant seem to find any.
 
Valjean

Valjean

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Nowhere Man said:
Where is right in California? I cant seem to find any.
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California's famous as a progressive state, but it has a considerable right wing population. Most of the financial movers and shakers are conservative &/or right wing -- maybe in reaction to the annoying, leftist youth culture of the '60's and '70's. ;)
Maybe it started when Governor Reagan ended free tuition in the state universities.
 
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Left Coast

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Nowhere Man said:
Oh you don't need gossip when you can actually go down there and see the human misery in all its glory first hand.
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*Lives in California*

*is not even close to a one %er*

*Looks around*

Um, no, these aren't "third world" conditions (an outdated term anyway). Not even close. When is the last time you were here? You're telling me you'd rather live in, say, Somalia than California? Give me a break.

Yes, homelessness is a problem. There are about 150,000 homeless people here, in a state of 40 million (0.4% of the population). What should we do to fix that? Please, enlighten us with your policy wisdom.
 
Heyo

Heyo

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Left Coast said:
*Lives in California*

*is not even close to a one %er*

*Looks around*

Um, no, these aren't "third world" conditions (an outdated term anyway). Not even close. When is the last time you were here? You're telling me you'd rather live in, say, Somalia than California? Give me a break.

Yes, homelessness is a problem. There are about 150,000 homeless people here, in a state of 40 million (0.4% of the population). What should we do to fix that? Please, enlighten us with your policy wisdom.
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What about building houses for them?

Study Reveals It Costs Less to Give the Homeless Housing Than to Leave Them on the Street

But that would be "socialism" and we can't have that, no matter the cost.
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

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Left Coast said:
*Lives in California*

*is not even close to a one %er*

*Looks around*

Um, no, these aren't "third world" conditions (an outdated term anyway). Not even close. When is the last time you were here? You're telling me you'd rather live in, say, Somalia than California? Give me a break.

Yes, homelessness is a problem. There are about 150,000 homeless people here, in a state of 40 million (0.4% of the population). What should we do to fix that? Please, enlighten us with your policy wisdom.
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Oh yeah I'm wrong. My apologies.

This clearly isn't third world conditions.

 
Left Coast

Left Coast

This Is Water
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Nowhere Man said:
Oh yeah I'm wrong. My apologies.

This clearly isn't third world conditions.

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Got it, so you have no substantive response to what I said, or answers to my questions.

You're aware San Francisco's Tenderloin is not representative of the entire state of 40 million people, right?

Do you ever consult non-right wing news sources, just for fun?
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

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Left Coast said:
Got it, so you have no substantive response to what I said, or answers to my questions.

You're aware San Francisco's Tenderloin is not representative of the entire state of 40 million people, right?

Do you ever consult non-right wing news sources, just for fun?
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If you consider Reuters right wing...

Early as June of last year.

Los Angeles homelessness rises sharply as housing crisis deepens


But you're right, California is not the only place...

Homeless in America's tent cities
 
Twilight Hue

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Left Coast said:
No, Reuters isn't right wing. And gee, what do you know, it doesn't refer to California as third world.

And I already cited the numbers for you. Its 0.4% of our population.
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That doesn't discount the fact that California is fast becoming a third world state. Just watch, it's going to get worse.

And it's coming from the people living right in the state itself.

Baltimore is just a City; California is a State Transforming into 'Third World' Ugly - California Globe
 
Left Coast

Left Coast

This Is Water
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Nowhere Man said:
That doesn't discount the fact that California is fast becoming a third world state. Just watch, it's going to get worse.

And it's coming from the people living right in the state itself.

Baltimore is just a City; California is a State Transforming into 'Third World' Ugly - California Globe
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ROFL, another op-ed in a right wing rag no one reads. Where do you find this sh*t?

Again, when were you here last?

And what should we do about homelessness? Come on, if you actually care about this issue, what do you have to say about it other than throwing stones at evil libs? Let's hear it.
 
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