No it's not (well, speaking for Judaism. Can't vouch for the others...).You mean like Abrahamic religions? To question is blasphemy!
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No it's not (well, speaking for Judaism. Can't vouch for the others...).You mean like Abrahamic religions? To question is blasphemy!
Most people do not want to be leaders. And the few people who do want to be leaders are exactly the people who should not be given that responsibility. Unfortunately, humanity has not solved this problem, yet, and so the wrong people continue to become our leaders, and continue to lead us into strife and contention that we would not otherwise be inclined to engage in. And this remains the case in every category of human endeavor, including religiosity.
Yes I agree that unity in uniformity is not the way but as you say unity in diversity is the way to go because we accept each other that we are different and learn from it.
God is truth, God gave us the way of truth.
PureX is not talking about Bahai elections but about prophets / sons / messengers / manifestations / Mahdis who have lead people on wrong paths.It does not now, not in the Baha'i election process.
They express it to belittle others and foist their beliefs on others about a mid-19th Century religious preacher who regurgitated old things and knew nothing about science.Close. Baha'i express it rays of the same sun, colors of the same garden.
I understand and have always admired the sentiment that this OP comes packaged with. Honestly.But does it have to be like this?
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What do you think?
I know of no true source that reveals "religion is meant to create love and unity"Although religion is meant to create love and unity it represents probably the largest group of ‘us and thems’ on the planet.
Some religions instead compete with one another for the number 1 spot and some leaders teach their followers that any other religion but theirs is satanic thus creating prejudices and hate between religions. There have even been wars so deep has the prejudice and hatred become.
But does it have to be like this?
Outwardly the different religions have different customs and traditions but inwardly they all strive for a higher purpose.
What would be the harm if we prayed and meditated and visited each other’s places of worship? In my travels I’ve visited Hindu Temples, Christian Churches, Muslim Mosques, Jewish Synagogues and Buddhist Pagodas and I found they all believe in truth and goodness.
So why don’t the religionists visit and worship together and establish friendship and fellowship because they all teach love and unity?
My wife and I who are of a different Faith have been visiting our local Catholic Church and we have made so many friends. They are so welcoming and loving. I believe if each religion extends true friendship to the other religions the time will come when diversity of religion will cease and we will be as one family.
What do you think?
I was discussing this with someone recently'And what are those barriers? One of them has to be that some religions think theirs is the only one that has the truth. Do they? I think a lot of people these days are questioning that and going beyond thinking that their religion is the only one right.
Unfortunately, as I remember, God told Jews not to associate with their neighbors or to intermarry. And, I always bring up that God had Elijah kill all the prophets of another religion. Why? Because they believed in a "false God." I'm glad "prophets" of other religions aren't doing that to the "prophets" of other religions.
So today is different. Today, kind of like what the Baha'is are saying, get rid of those religious beliefs that separate people and cause animosity between them. But, are those beliefs that easy to dispose of?
Although religion is meant to create love and unity it represents probably the largest group of ‘us and thems’ on the planet.
Some religions instead compete with one another for the number 1 spot and some leaders teach their followers that any other religion but theirs is satanic thus creating prejudices and hate between religions. There have even been wars so deep has the prejudice and hatred become.
But does it have to be like this?
Outwardly the different religions have different customs and traditions but inwardly they all strive for a higher purpose.
What would be the harm if we prayed and meditated and visited each other’s places of worship? In my travels I’ve visited Hindu Temples, Christian Churches, Muslim Mosques, Jewish Synagogues and Buddhist Pagodas and I found they all believe in truth and goodness.
So why don’t the religionists visit and worship together and establish friendship and fellowship because they all teach love and unity?
My wife and I who are of a different Faith have been visiting our local Catholic Church and we have made so many friends. They are so welcoming and loving. I believe if each religion extends true friendship to the other religions the time will come when diversity of religion will cease and we will be as one family.
What do you think?
It doesn't usually happen in 12 step groups, either. But although there are models like these that could be employed to resolve this ongoing human dilemma, humanity has not yet managed to employ them on a large enough scale for it to make a difference.It does not now, not in the Baha'i election process.
Regards Tony
Source?Although religion is meant to create love and unity
Jesus said that there are only Two Commandments that we are to follow. All other teachings must reflect them as elaborations and/or applications in that day and age in eretz Israel.What is the difference between some who says to one face, "I hat God.", and someone who says the same thing, behind one's back?
The only difference, it seems evident, is that one is a hypocrite.
Jesus showed the seriousness of this, when he spoke to, and of, the religious people, while on earth.
(Matthew 15:8, 9) 8 ‘This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. 9 It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines.’”
(Matthew 15:12-14) 12 Then the disciples came and said to him: “Do you know that the Pharisees were stumbled at hearing what you said?” 13 In reply he said: “Every plant that my heavenly Father did not plant will be uprooted. 14 Let them be. Blind guides is what they are. If, then, a blind man guides a blind man, both will fall into a pit.”
Jesus was not interested in friendships with people who demonstrated they were not more concerned with truth, than they were with their religious system and doctrines.
(Matthew 7:21-23) 21 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!’
It was his father's name, that was important to Jesus, and one who was not interested in doing the father's will, were not people he wanted company with.
"My Father is glorified in this, that you keep bearing much fruit and prove yourselves my disciples." he said. (John 15:8 See verses 1-10)
Which ancient religion did you have in mind? I haven't come across any adherents of ancient religions promoting human sacrifice recently. Have you?
And some blow up Abortion Clinics and murder the doctors that work there. Plus, they promote what Baha'is would call "divisive" beliefs. You okay with that? Or, should those beliefs be done away with and beliefs that promote peace and unity between all religions be adopted instead?Many fundamentalist Christians are good, honest hard working folk.
Have Baha'is shown love, acceptance, and true friendship with people from the other religions here on the forum? It don't look like it. Loverofhumanity and you have made the best efforts at trying to show some respect and courtesy with people from other religions. But, please don't pretend that Baha'is have got it right. They don't.You just need to love people. Many fundamentalist Christians are unable or unwilling to have a meaningful interfaith dialogue. Some are so we should be careful to avoid making assumptions and being prejudiced ourselves.
Right on. And no Jew has ever tried to befriend me in order to get me to go to a Bible study with them. Baha'is and Christians do that constantly. So when it comes to making friends with people in the other religions, I'm glad Jews are doing it to be a friend and not because they hope to make a convert.Treat them well. Here's a quote from today's daily Talmud page ("Daf Yomi"):
"One must always [take steps to] increase peace with one’s brethren and with one’s relatives, and with all people, even with a non-Jew in the marketplace...they said about Rabban Yoḥanan ben Zakkai that no one ever preceded him in issuing a greeting, not even a non-Jew in the marketplace, as Rabban Yoḥanan would always greet him first..."
Being nice to someone has nothing to do with what I think about their religion.
Do they come to Baha'i meeting with you? If they do, do you sit with them and pray Baha'i prayers with them? And now the big question.... Is it the same God? No, they believe in The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit as all being God. Do you ever get in a discussion about that with them? Oh, and then there is the evil spirit being Satan. Yeah, tell them that the devil is not real while you're telling them that Jesus is the perfect reflection of God but is not God himself.I go to a church on Sunday that has fundamental Christians praying with a Baha'i couple, it is the same God
Yes, but you always have something wise to say.How, for the heck of it, am I concerned about what God Abraham worshiped? I am in India and I am a Hindu, and a strong atheist too.
And, I don't know, but animal sacrifices to gods might still be going on.
That kind of supports what I'm saying... that there is a very good chance people made up their own ideas and beliefs about God. Here, they all had a piece of a broken mirror and looked at it and concluded what they saw was the truth.I agree that God is unknowable and that we can learn so much from each other as I don’t believe any of us holds the complete truth.
i really like this quote from Rumi which says it all.....the different religions are the pieces
The truth was a mirror in the hands of God. It fell, and broke into pieces. Everybody took a piece of it, and they looked at it and thought they had the truth.”
― Mawlana Jalal-al-Din Rumi
Like I said, if Baha'i stay with Liberal Christians, they will be fine. It is probably the Baha'i that will have stronger doctrinal views then them.I don’t think that we can stereo type any group because I have been to church many times and only receive love and kindness. They know we are a different religion and so have never preached to us.
we had dinner with the Bishop last night and have good friendships so what you are speaking about is not happening here.
Maybe the more fanatical believers get over enthusiastic which can make them proselytise but I’m not coming across them here.