Maybe so. But these open ideas are dangerous nevertheless, and should be opposed.
If an idea put into practice harms others and society, it should be opposed. How can such an idea be true and good?Only if they are wrong.
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Maybe so. But these open ideas are dangerous nevertheless, and should be opposed.
If an idea put into practice harms others and society, it should be opposed. How can such an idea be true and good?Only if they are wrong.
Sounds like Jehovah's Witness, since Mormons don't use the term 'elder' that I'm aware of.
My experience at the kingdom halls of JW was exceptionally isolationist and xenophobic. Children with nonbelieving parents were encouraged to emancipate and get away from the parent at earliest opportunity, unless the child felt conversion was possible.
The only goal for door to door work was conversion, not commiseration or learning about the community or expanding horizons any further beyond the watchtower by-line. If you were a 'pioneer' you logged how many doors you saw and literature you placed, filling a quota depending on your part or full time status. If you didn't think you were going to get a return call or bible study, you left and thought nothing more on it
This could have changed since then, and my region and congregation could have been worse examples than the norm, but it was a sad state of affairs and I'm not sad to see those days behind me.
If an idea put into practice harms others and society, it should be opposed. How can such an idea be true and good?
Poll the people at large. If they don't want to be murdered, then murder harms others. If they don't want to be thought of as an unevolved human, than that idea harms others. If they don't want to believe that they are going to hell if they don't join a cult-like organization, than that idea harms others.The problem lies in defining 'harms others and society." As in, who gets to define what 'harm' is?
Please see the LDS poster who explained why this wouldn't have been mormons. The people going to the door *are* elders so saying 'elders don't let us do such and such' wouldn't make much sense.Since the OP said..."I welcomed them and invited them in my home to say prayers for humanity. They replied that their elders had forbidden them to mingle or become friendly with people from other Faiths because they might catch a ‘spiritual disease " I am inclined to say it would be Mormons because we don't come into people's homes to pray for humanity....Mormons always want to come in and "pray for the blessing of the Lord Jesus in your home"....nor would we ever say that people of other faiths are somehow contagious. Jesus sought out those who were spiritually lost......JW's do too.
You do realize that the Mormons always used to wear a badge with their name...."Elder such and such".....never spoke to Mormons?....huh?
I never said it did, but as I've told you before, your experience doesn't nullify my own. And I've been to several congregations in different states, and some conventions as well. I was with a traveling fulltime pioneer at the time.Your experience does not speak for my entire brotherhood...sorry. This is not the way it is in my experience at all....and I have moved around and
That's certainly the speech. Like a smile that never quite reaches the eyes.Really? No thought of giving up their spare time to actually save someone's life? No thought of calling back on someone who showed some interest because you wanted them to enjoy the coming paradise?
I would love to be a fly on the wall to hear what is really being taught to such people
The people going to the door *are* elders so saying 'elders don't let us do such and such' wouldn't make much sense.
Do you have to find the common ground between religions? Don't you think it is already known? You just need to be humane. Help others if you can and do not harm any other. Is there more to it? The rest all is divisive - God, Gods, Goddesses, prophets, sons, messengers, manifestations, mahdis; this religion or that religion. That is what needs to be ignored. To think that it needs a research or revelation is funny.Isn’t it time the religions of the world came together to eliminate the hatreds that have caused bitter wars between them and find common ground to get along with one another?
What does your religion teach you about other religions? What if anything is mentioned in your Holy Books regarding other Faiths?
I guess you're excluding Judaism in this statement. The Tanach teaches us to not behave life idolaters and not to marry non-Jews. The Talmud goes a step further and enacted Laws to prevent socializing with non-Jews (or at least, idolatrous ones). These are our Holy Books.I would love to be a fly on the wall to hear what is really being taught to such people to instill prejudice against people of different Faiths and where is their justification for promoting such prejudices.it does not come from the Holy Books.
Yes, we are forbidden to pray in a place of idolatry. We're also forbidden to give tacit acknowledgement to places that are antithetical to Judaism.Does it make any difference where we pray and meditate whether it be a pagoda, a church, temple, mosque or synagogue?What harm is there in going to each other’s churches and temples to pray, meditate and mingle?
The Ten Commandments yes of course. The Holy Bible? It is more precious to me than my own life because it led me to recognise Christ when He returned again as He promised.
One of the Ten Commandments is to have no other God before God yet most have set up a system of priests and elders with smooth tongues who’s every word they worship instead of what is written in the Holy Bible. Instead of worshipping the one true God which the Ten Commandments enjoins, Christians worldwide worship their popes and elders and ministers and priests and their views and no longer worship the one God anymore. Whatever these self appointed clergy say the followers who have itchy ears will believe even when they tell them Christ has not returned yet!
Why are Christians selling their souls to their leaders when God gave them minds to think with and eyes of their own to see with? These are the false gods that Christians have unwittingly set up as ‘golden calves’ to worship in spite of the Ten Commandments commanding them nit to set up false gods.
It was the Holy Bible which led me, through the Holy Spirit to see Christ return in the glory of the Father because I do not allow elders and priests and smooth talkers to deceive me into falsely believing whatever they say as true. I do not worship these self appointed gods.
God gave me my own eyes, ears and mind to see with , hear and think for myself with and I’m glad I used them or I too would be betraying Jesus because one cannot remain loyal to Jesus by accepting His first coming and then closing the door in His Face when He returned again because some elder said He didn’t return.
God has never withdrawn our right to accept or reject Him which is why Christians were told to watch and pray lest they reject Him when He returned. Christians were told to watch and pray not turn to ministers, priests or elders who would decide for them if Jesus had returned or not like the Pharisees did.
By listening to these self appointed leaders, people have failed to investigate the truth impartially and made a grave error of judgement.
I thank God no leader owns or controls how I think or I too would have missed the second coming just like millions of Christians have already because they listened to their leaders.
I have literally dozens of Bibles and commentaries because to me it is the Word of God and the Holy Spirit guided me to the truth through the Holy Spirit not self appointed elders or ministers.
One thing I have learnt is that the Bible kept its promises and does not lie whereas those who claim to follow it will be saying He hasn’t returned for another 2,000 years making the Bible out to be lies. Just as the Jews have delayed Christ’s first coming so far for 2,000 years this is just a never ending story of denial after denial because while religious leaders have their way Christ will never return.
Said 'elders' not elder so and so.We call all our members “brothers and sisters”...we don’t call them “elder so-and-so”, or “elders”.
However, Mormons do. And, when Mormons have come to my house, it’s mostly been ladies. They are not elders.
Where did you get the term, “traveling pioneers”?
That’s another term we don’t use.
You say things (even more in that post I’m quoting from) that bring into question the truthfulness about your past dealings with Witnesses.
I simply don’t believe you’ve had much contact....your partial knowledge betrays it.
You can hardly hold God's name in high esteem if you never use it.
Of course not.In TV shows and movies is it common for people to refer to others that they are assumed to respect (parents, kings, judges, heads of state/government, etc.) by their titles (dad, mom, my liege, your honor, Mr. President) or their names?
I don't think it's weird. I don't call the women I work with by their first names either. It's too personal and I don't want to create even a small sense of intimacy with any woman not in my family.Of course not.
In fact I have this with people on here too. Even though I may know a user's real name, I am very hesitant to use it (in a context where I could) as it seems rather more intimate, too personal, than I'd like. I suppose that may sound a bit ridiculous, but that's just me I guess.
Reason to love Haredi Judaism, no. 28,373: not making you feel objectified and creeped out.II don't think it's weird. I don't call the women I work with by their first names either. It's too personal and I don't want to create even a small sense of intimacy with any woman not in my family.
Ok, well to be honest, I don't call them Mrs.... or Ms.. either, since that feels kind of dated. I just kind of uncomfortable clear my throat or stand around looking like I'd like to be noticed and when someone turns my way, I just start talking.Reason to love Haredi Judaism, no. 28,373: not making you feel objectified and creeped out.
This is good to know.
I recall I was on a train once and a young man was sat beside me. I was not thrilled but too British to tell him anything. We started talking and it was apparent he liked me. It was the hottest day of the year and he bought me some bottled water.Ok, well to be honest, I don't call them Mrs.... or Ms.. either, since that feels kind of dated. I just kind of uncomfortable clear my throat or stand around looking like I'd like to be noticed and when someone turns my way, I just start talking.
Social situations are not my strong point.
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Ok, ok, interacting with people at all, is not my strong point, get off my back already!
Haha.I recall I was on a train once and a young man was sat beside me. I was not thrilled but too British to tell him anything. We started talking and it was apparent he liked me. It was the hottest day of the year and he bought me some bottled water.
They were literally giving bottled water out free on the trains.
So I guess he wasn't so good at that either.
They did and in traditional British fashion it broke.Also haha that your trains don't have air conditioning.