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If it is, what's your evidence?.
Well, is it?
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If it is, what's your evidence?.
Well, is it?
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Thank you
YES IT IS! Sin is the transgression of God's law *1 John 3:4.
So YOU say. However, Exodus 20:13 13 "Thou shalt not kill." doesn't say this includes killing one self. But if you insist it does I can equally insist that it includes killing vermin, mosquitoes, and weeds.The 6th commandment is that we should not kill or murder. Exodus 20:13.
This applies to murdering ourselves as well. It is an unpardonable sin as you cannot ask God's forgiveness after the act is committed.
So how does defile translate to committing suicide? Nothing in the three Bible dictionaries I consulted say that "defile" means committing suicide, or even a sin, which, as I've pointed out doesn't include committing suicide.1 CORIINTIANS 3:16-17 [16], Know you not that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?[17], If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.
Now notice very carefully... Everyone who says it is a sin has no scriptures and no evidence from the scriptures.Now notice very carefully... Everyone who says it is not a sin has no scriptures and no evidence from the scriptures.
Only to help confirm the fact that suicide is not a sin.Hope this helps
Thank you.It depends on one's motive. Suicide can be an act of political protest, offering one's life for a universal goal. Or it can be because for egoistical reasons.
I of course have no physical evidence, but the belief I have is that someone who commits suicide for personal reasons will come back and face the same psychological turmoil that was avoided until the person overcomes that particular issue.
So it's not a "sin" but will result in another opportunity to learn a lesson.
Suicide is murder? A murder is taking aways someone's life against their will. If it is their own life, and they voluntarily choose death, then it is not a murder. This verse does not apply.YES IT IS! Sin is the transgression of God's law *1 John 3:4. The 6th commandment is that we should not kill or murder. Exodus 20:13.
You don't believe someone can find forgiveness from God after death? God not capable of that, in your book?This applies to murdering ourselves as well. It is an unpardonable sin as you cannot ask God's forgiveness after the act is committed.
This verse has nothing to do with suicide. It has to do with living life in the world for God, being pure and such. It has nothing to do with how one chooses to die, either through a long crippling process, or voluntarily through choice and actions to end one's own life, such as in the case of those facing terminal illnesses.1 CORIINTIANS 3:16-17 [16], Know you not that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?[17], If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.
It does not help. It obfuscates the complexities of suicide. It does try to understand, show compassion for, or to help anyone facing such a choice. Rather it threatens them with God. That's not going to help anyone.Now notice very carefully... Everyone who says it is not a sin has no scriptures and no evidence from the scriptures.
Hope this helps
Yeah; however, we're going by what the Bible says, and it says they do.Do sins even exist?
Heck it doesn't even have to be unpardonable, just your simple, garden variety sin will do.That idea that suicide is an unpardonable sin is just one heinous, offensive idea out of many in Christian doctrine. It's also laughably hypocritical since Jesus basically committed suicide and so have many of the martyrs. There's stories of the early Christians going out of their way to **** off Roman authorities so they could kill them and be considered martyrs. What a strange religion.
In that case, I can see how it would be sinful in a Christian framework if you define sin as something that distances you from God. However, even depression can be considered sinful with that view. Saying it's sinful gives the impression that it's a personal failure the individual is culpible for. I don't think that's the correct way to approach it. If I were a Christian, I would simply view it as a great tragedy when someone takes their own life out of despair and pray for their soul. It would not be my place to judge. Obviously the person was experiencing hell while alive so how could it be loving at all to condemn them to everlasting hell after they have tried to escape it already? I tended to believe in a God of love, mercy and compassion, anyway. I don't get this angry, wrathful, anti-human deity so many Christians seem to obsess over.Heck it doesn't even have to be unpardonable, just your simple, garden variety sin will do.
Sure it does. Sin is the transgression of God's law *1 John 3:4. The 6th commandment is that we should not kill or murder. Exodus 20:13.Suicide is murder? A murder is taking aways someone's life against their will. If it is their own life, and they voluntarily choose death, then it is not a murder. This verse does not apply.
Nope God is not the God of the dead but of the living. You must find God's forgiveness before death not after death.You don't believe someone can find forgiveness from God after death? God not capable of that, in your book?
This verse has nothing to do with suicide. It has to do with living life in the world for God, being pure and such. It has nothing to do with how one chooses to die, either through a long crippling process, or voluntarily through choice and actions to end one's own life, such as in the case of those facing terminal illnesses.
This is only your opinion without evidence. The question of the OP was "Is Suicide sin?" You have been provided evidence from the God's Word showing that suicide is sin and an unforgivable sin at that.It does not help. It obfuscates the complexities of suicide. It does try to understand, show compassion for, or to help anyone facing such a choice. Rather it threatens them with God. That's not going to help anyone. I should add, that having a mental illness is not a sin. It means you should seek help if you are feeling suicidal. Compassionate people who listen, rather than smash you across the face with their Bibles, are the ones to reach out to for real help.
Nope! Exodus 20:13 is in reference to our duty of love to mankind.So YOU say. However, Exodus 20:13 13 "Thou shalt not kill." doesn't say this includes killing one self. But if you insist it does I can equally insist that it includes killing vermin, mosquitoes, and weeds.
Defile in the Greek means to destroy. If we destroy ourselves (commit suicide) God will destroy us in the life to come.So how does defile translate to committing suicide? Nothing in the three Bible dictionaries I consulted say that "defile" means committing suicide, or even a sin, which, as I've pointed out doesn't include committing suicide.
Your response...3rd Angel wrote: Now notice very carefully... Everyone who says it is a sin has no scriptures and no evidence from the scriptures.
The OP asked for evidence and asked the question is suicide sin? You have been given it. No one else has provided any evidence from Gods' Word except their own opinion as I have said they would. Why ask a question if you have a pre-conceived opinion you cannot support from the scriptures (no evidence) when asking for evidence from the scriptures. Sin is only defined from the scriptures in God's Word and suicide as shown through the scriptures is sin and an unpardonable one at that.Only to help confirm the fact that suicide is not a sin.
Most Christians don't believe in Sola Scriptura. God's Word is supposed to be Christ (the Logos), not the Bible. You're just providing your own opinion of verses, anyway.No one else has provided any evidence from Gods' Word except their own opinion as I have said they would.
Most Christians don't believe in Sola Scriptura. God's Word is supposed to be Christ (the Logos), not the Bible. You're just providing your own opinion of verses, anyway.
I assume you are some sort of Evangelical Protestant. How you view the Bible is very, very different from how Catholics, Orthodox Christians, Anglicans and even mainline Protestants view it. That doesn't mean they don't believe in the Bible or what have you, but it's not the whole picture or sole source of authority. In traditional Christian thought, the Bible merely points us towards the Incarnation of God in Christ. That is the true Word of God - not some words on a page. Putting a book on a pedestal is idolatry. Regardless, you have to examine the context and meaning of the verses, not just cherry pick them as is. It's a process. But most people are just lazy and ignorant these days.It is true that many do not believe in God's Word. The OP asks the question is suicide a sin where sin is only defined in God's Word as the transgression or the breaking of God's law (10 commandments) and unbelief in God's Word *Romans 14:23. I have only shared God's Word which is not my words but God's and is the evidence provided that supports what I have posted here. Everyone else that has said suiicide is not a sin is only providing their own opinions unsupported by the evidence of Gods' Word that defines what sin is.
I assume you are some sort of Evangelical Protestant. How you view the Bible is very, very different from how Catholics, Orthodox Christians, Anglicans and even mainline Protestants view it. That doesn't mean they don't believe in the Bible or what have you, but it's not the whole picture or sole source of authority. In traditional Christian thought, the Bible merely points us towards the Incarnation of God in Christ. That is the true Word of God - not some words on a page. Putting a book on a pedestal is idolatry. Regardless, you have to examine the context and meaning of the verses, not just cherry pick them as is. It's a process. But most people are just lazy and ignorant these days.