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Turkey Invades Syria
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leov
Well-Known Member
They shook hands.
sooda
Veteran Member
Donald Trump, with divine wisdom, composes a tweet for Turkeyland
www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/donald-trump...
1 day ago The genesis of Donald Trump's recent tweet, as revealed by a leading White House whistleblower. Donald Trump, with divine wisdom, composes a tweet for Turkeyland .
Excerpt:
Don: “Exactly. I have divine wisdom.”
Mel: “That might be the teensiest bit lavish, dear. The snake handlers and the tongue talkers might feel you're getting above yourself. What is it your message to the world?”
Don: “I wanna say that the Turks can do whatever they want, but I need to give the impression that if they embarrass me by doing what we know they'll do, they’re toast.”
Mel: “But isn’t that almost the same thing? The Kurds were our friends only 10 minutes ago and now they’re going to be put to the sword. That could be a little bit embarrassing.”
He who is the author of a war lets loose the whole contagion of hell and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death. Thomas Paine
A disaster for pretty much everyone, except _perhaps_ Erdogan's short term ambitions.
Neither Syria nor the Kurds will see reason to trust anything coming from the USA (or at least Trump) again.
Nor will many sensible people in positions of knowledge about the situation, including much of the military High Command and Congress, mind you.
Both Erdogan and ISIS will feel emboldened, and the morale of US military and of foreign allies will be put under serious risk - all the more so because it was so crapicious and unnecessary a risk.
Soon enough you Americans will realize that Trump has just sustained his pride and vanity with a blood price that can easily cost thousands of lives, including American soldiers. Without as much as a weak excuse, to boot. It is no coincidence that even Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell are finally feeling the need to criticize him.
Neither Syria nor the Kurds will see reason to trust anything coming from the USA (or at least Trump) again.
Nor will many sensible people in positions of knowledge about the situation, including much of the military High Command and Congress, mind you.
Both Erdogan and ISIS will feel emboldened, and the morale of US military and of foreign allies will be put under serious risk - all the more so because it was so crapicious and unnecessary a risk.
Soon enough you Americans will realize that Trump has just sustained his pride and vanity with a blood price that can easily cost thousands of lives, including American soldiers. Without as much as a weak excuse, to boot. It is no coincidence that even Lindsey Graham and Mitch McConnell are finally feeling the need to criticize him.
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sooda
Veteran Member
Who did, and what significance do you see in that?
Saddening...unjust. Reasonless.
Standing Ovation.
War, war, war. They only think of war...but our men shall not die for their stupid wars.
leov
Well-Known Member
I was not supporter of Trump. Now I am because this:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
The United States has spent EIGHT TRILLION DOLLARS fighting and policing in the Middle East. Thousands of our Great Soldiers have died or been badly wounded. Millions of people have died on the other side. GOING INTO THE MIDDLE EAST IS THE WORST DECISION EVER MADE.....
7:14 AM · Oct 9, 2019·Twitter for iPhone
Donald J. Trump on Twitter
sooda
Veteran Member
Trump is grandstanding.. He didn't know anything about the ME 3 years ago.. and he was FOR the invasion of Iraq.
leov
Well-Known Member
There is Trump's interview from 2001 where he said it was a bomb...
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
What Trump did, and presidents of the past did, is the reason why terrorism using religion as a proxy exist.
That is a decent enough goal.
But dropping the Turkish military into the Kurds that put their safety on the line on your behalf to fight ISIS without as much as a token effort at establishing a timeline is, to put it mildly, a stupid way of attempting to attain it.
That is no way of treating people who drew and lost blood in the fights that so many Americans deem both too necessary not to be fought and too risky to involve your own military. Which isn't the most honorable of stances to begin with...
Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
It was mostly special forces who were playing back up not actual ground forces
sooda
Veteran Member
There is a Trump interview with Howard Stern where Trump is for the invasion of Iraq.
leov
Well-Known Member
Trump is for the invasion of Iraq.
That is one of the reasons I was not his supporter before
http://82.221.129.208/trump911.mp4
Salvador
RF's Swedenborgian
Back then, Trump as well as most anybody else was fed bogus information by the U.S. Intelligence community claiming Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. Trump now realizes America can't afford to always be the world's international policeman.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber
Plenty of us do. You'll never convince the Trumpeters otherwise, however.