Does anyone believe in Evolution anymore?

[Polymath257]

Google is your friend. Youtube can be your teacher. Ill give you 1 glaring hole, where did the first Atom/cell/ molecule or whatever it is evolutionist believe in, come from?

Irrelevant to evolution. Evolution is a theory about *biology* and not about cosmology. it starts once life gets going and not before.

 

[Jose Fly]

Why? it's all based on the faulty idea that all life evolved from a common ancestor (bacteria). and from bacteria we get all the different species there are or have ever been.

How do you know it's faulty? Have you studied evolutionary biology? Paleontology? Genetics?

 

[Wandering Monk]

Google is your friend. Youtube can be your teacher. Ill give you 1 glaring hole, where did the first Atom/cell/ molecule or whatever it is evolutionist believe in, come from?

I don't do other people's homework for them. You made an assertion that evolution was full of holes. I want to know your sources so I can look at the methods those sources used to arrive at their conclusion.

 

[Polymath257]

The adaptation process has been a real pain in the neck. maybe I need a better neck. it seems the brain adaption works much better than the other parts. Not so good for some though.

Are you denying it happens? or just complaining about the results?

 

[Earthtank]

Irrelevant to evolution. Evolution is a theory about *biology* and not about cosmology. it starts once life gets going and not before.

Not irrelevant. Where did the first "whatever" come from to start the whole evolution process? Did something evolve out of nothing and started evolving in to itself?

 

[Polymath257]

Not irrelevant. Where did the first "whatever" come from to start the whole evolution process? Did something evolve out of nothing and started evolving in to itself?

Again, irrelevant *to evolution*. How life got started and what happened before life isn't relevant to whether evolution happens and how it does so.

it is irrelevant in *exactly* the same way that formation of the planets is irrelevant to discussing the orbits of the planets.

Now, if you want to discuss *cosmology* or *particle physics*, we can do so. But that is NOT evolution, which *only* talks about biology.

 

[ecco]

A first-grader can tell the difference between an ape and a human.

What grade does that put you in? Pre-K

 

[Wandering Monk]

Not irrelevant. Where did the first "whatever" come from to start the whole evolution process? Did something evolve out of nothing and started evolving in to itself?

Origins of life is another discipline. It is called abiogenesis. Evolution deals ONLY with changes in living things not the origins of those things. If you want to talk about biogenesis and various hypotheses about how it may have happened, start another thread.

 

[ecco]

"Does anyone believe in Evolution anymore?"

Only those people who are willfully ignoring all the MAJOR wholes in it. They are taking evolution as a blind faith and using scientists as their "prophets"

What are "wholes"?

 

[Subduction Zone]

"Does anyone believe in Evolution anymore?"

Only those people who are willfully ignoring all the MAJOR wholes in it. They are taking evolution as a blind faith and using scientists as their "prophets"

Really? And what are these supposed "wholes<sic>" in the theory?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Why? it's all based on the faulty idea that all life evolved from a common ancestor (bacteria). and from bacteria we get all the different species there are or have ever been.

What makes you think that idea is faulty? You need evidence to make that claim and you do not appear to even understand the basic concept of what is and what is not evidence.

 

[ecco]

A good thing that science has shown is that those who teach that Genesis tells us that God created the earth out of nothing is false. Genesis never says that! In fact, it tells us that the earth existed before it was formed into the earth as we know it today.

So, you denigrate science and you denigrate commonly accepted interpretations of Genesis. That makes you a majority of one.

But as one who believes the Scripture it's important that archaeology has discovered fossils which show that the earth is much older than those who claim Genesis teaches that God created the earth out of nothing.

What you mean is you are one who believes his own interpretations of scripture.

I don't discount that there were different species inhabiting the earth before it was created into the way we know it today. the evidence shows there were.

What evidence shows that there were different species inhabiting the earth before it was created into the way we know it today?

Let me know when you can prove the non-existence of an intelligent creator.

It's a lot easier to prove the existence of non-intelligent posters.

And now there are humans. God created them, male and female. And they are not evolving into non-humans again.

Are you reverting to the specific writing of Genesis and dumping your own interpretations?

Like I said, there was a previous habitation of the earth before it was created as we know it today. that explains the evidence of non-human creatures in the fossil record

Oops. Back to WayOutThere interpretations again.

The evidence shows that the earth had a population before it was destroyed and water came to surround it which would block the sun's light.

More WayOutThere interpretations without a shred of evidence.

 

[Subduction Zone]

A mammal is a classification base on observation of species. So what.

And so is the fact that you are an ape.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Google is your friend. Youtube can be your teacher. Ill give you 1 glaring hole, where did the first Atom/cell/ molecule or whatever it is evolutionist believe in, come from?

Ooh, and he admits that he is wrong in record time.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Not irrelevant. Where did the first "whatever" come from to start the whole evolution process? Did something evolve out of nothing and started evolving in to itself?

Moving the goalposts is a way of admitting that you are wrong. You moved the goalposts out of the discussion.

Let me help you out. It does not matter what the first source of life was. It could even have been magically poofed into existence by a god. Evolution began after that. You are debating a different topic.

 

[osgart]

How far does one have to dig to know evolution is true and not accept it on faith?

 

[Subduction Zone]

How far does one have to dig to know evolution is true and not accept it on faith?

From years of dealing with creationists I think that that is merely massive projection on the part of the creationists that make that claim. They would have to take evolution on faith since they refuse to learn even the basics of science. They then assume that others are guilty of their sins.

 

[osgart]

From years of dealing with creationists I think that that is merely massive projection on the part of the creationists that make that claim. They would have to take evolution on faith since they refuse to learn even the basics of science. They then assume that others are guilty of their sins.

I am actually looking to dig into it.

By Creationists you mean Bible adherents, and Deists?

I am actually willing to accept evolution. There is only one thing about it that i do not accept, that intelligence in nature is not real.

 

[Jim]

And yes, among the scientific community that studies these questions in detail, the support for evolution is universal.

Source?

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Irrelevant to evolution. Evolution is a theory about *biology* and not about cosmology. it starts once life gets going and not before.

Weeeeel... that's a little debatable. Evolution probably existed before what we would recognise as "life"... certainly before cellular life, any way.