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Does anyone believe in Evolution anymore?

LightofTruth

Well-Known Member
In science a theory is as good as it gets. There is nothing "higher" than a theory. Theories explain facts. Once again, your personal beliefs were shown to be wrong over one hundred years ago.
if we examine all we can between various animals, it shows that man is more closely related to apes. therefore apes and man have a common ancestor. he he
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
if we examine all we can between various animals, it shows that man is more closely related to apes. therefore apes and man have a common ancestor. he he

Nope, that is *one* piece of the evidence. Also available is genetics, for example. And genetics is often used to show relatedness and ancestry.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Human beings create other human beings. Apes create other apes. Apes do not create human beings.
Since you are an ape any child that you will have or have had will be of was an ape too. You seem to have a hard time understanding this.

Perhaps you take personal offense in the fact that your mother was an ape as well.

Oddly enough I am willing to bet that you do not deny that you are a mammal.
 

Earthtank

Active Member
"Does anyone believe in Evolution anymore?"

Only those people who are willfully ignoring all the MAJOR wholes in it. They are taking evolution as a blind faith and using scientists as their "prophets"
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
the best adaption would be for us all to have wings.

Has that mutation shown up? Is there any reason to suspect it would? Given our size, those wings would not be able to produce flight, so what was the advantage again?

How does that compare to an increase in brain size (simple adjustment of timing) and jaw size (another timing adjustment), together allowing the development of language and more complex interactions?
 

LightofTruth

Well-Known Member
Since you are an ape any child that you will have or have had will be of was an ape too. You seem to have a hard time understanding this.

Perhaps you take personal offense in the fact that your mother was an ape as well.

Oddly enough I am willing to bet that you do not deny that you are a mammal.
A mammal is a classification base on observation of species. So what.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
"Does anyone believe in Evolution anymore?"

Only those people who are willfully ignoring all the MAJOR wholes in it. They are taking evolution as a blind faith and using scientists as their "prophets"

What are the holes? Do you really think you can bring anything to this discussion that hasn't been refuted a thousand time? That hasn't been heard before?
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
A mammal is a classification base on observation of species. So what.

Well, what did you *expect* it to be based on? Observation of planets?

But I note that 'ape' is also based on observation of species. So our classification as a mammal and as an ape are equally reasonable.

yes, mammals have a great number of shared characteristics, including at the genetic level. We also have an extensive fossil record of early mammals and how they developed from the reptile ancestors.
 

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
"Does anyone believe in Evolution anymore?"

Only those people who are willfully ignoring all the MAJOR wholes in it. They are taking evolution as a blind faith and using scientists as their "prophets"
So let's see if you can answer the question that @LightofTruth has avoided.

If what you say is true (evolution has major holes and is blind faith), how then do you explain the fact that the world's life scientists have, for over a century, agreed that evolution/common descent is real and accurate? Are they all bad at their jobs? Are they part of a massive conspiracy?
 

LightofTruth

Well-Known Member
Has that mutation shown up? Is there any reason to suspect it would? Given our size, those wings would not be able to produce flight, so what was the advantage again?

How does that compare to an increase in brain size (simple adjustment of timing) and jaw size (another timing adjustment), together allowing the development of language and more complex interactions?
The adaptation process has been a real pain in the neck. maybe I need a better neck. it seems the brain adaption works much better than the other parts. Not so good for some though.
 
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