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Christians And Sodomy

Skwim

Veteran Member
We humans were never intended to have animal instincts that prevent us from becoming what God intended. Many have asked that since God has the power of foreknowledge then why didn't He stop those responsible for this happening? The answer is that He chose not to know. The same as with His children's sins.
And you know all this to be a fact because_____________________________________________ .

By the way, SODOMY was not known in the scriptures until about a thousand years ago.
Fine. :shrug:

Fornication was known in the 1st century as engaging in pagan worship practice which involved physical sex with the priest and or priestess. It cannot be used today as a 'catch-all' word for looking at the Sports Illustrated swimsuit cover, watching of R rated movies, etc, etc.
Have you heard of people using the word in this fashion? I highly doubt it.

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sooda

Veteran Member
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Please bear with the somewhat lengthy introduction here. It's quite relevant to my concluding thoughts. Thanks. :)

In looking up the Christian position on anal sex I came across the Catholic stance:

Is anal sex ok between a married Christian couple as foreplay?

"5) Bible forbids anal sex

Nowhere in the Bible does it say anal sex is OK, on the other hand Romans 1:24-27 says:

“women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women…”​
Scripture is clearly saying women cannot have “back door” sex. The Bible doesn’t say “it’s only sex if there is a climax.” Using that excuse is kind of like Bill Clinton saying “I didn’t have sex with that woman.”
source
And the Protestant stance.

Is Anal Sex A Sin?

"Many believers wonder can Christians have anal sex?

Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 “‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
While it is true Christian couples don’t have a sex limit on what they can and can’t do in regard to sex positions and oral sex. Sex is the male’s penis into a female’s vagina. Anal sex is penis to anus, which is sodomy. You might say, “how about if it’s between husband and wife,” but God didn’t intend men to put their penis inside an anus period.

Can I have anal sex outside of marriage instead of having sex?

No, nothing can be used as a substitute. Sexual immorality is a sin.

Sodomy is anal sex! Its name comes from Sodom and Gomorrah where God destroyed the city because of the homosexuality that was going on there. The anus was not designed for sex, neither is it safe to practice. Even though the Bible doesn’t discuss anal sex between a married couple, from what the Bible does tell us you can see that God intended for the penis to go inside the vagina not the anus. Married couples shouldn’t be having anal sex. We must not take away God’s natural way of doing things.
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So why have I brought up the subject?

Well, in another thread the fact was brought up that "there are sexually responsive nerve endings located in the anus." I was unaware of this, but informed of the fact I started looking into it and found:

"The abundance of nerve endings in the anal region and rectum can make anal sex pleasurable for men or women. The internal and external sphincter muscles control the opening and closing of the anus; these muscles, which are sensitive membranes made up of many nerve endings, facilitate pleasure or pain during anal sex.

The anal sphincters are usually tighter than the pelvic muscles of the vagina, which can enhance the sexual pleasure for the inserting male during male-to-female anal intercourse because of the pressure applied to the penis.
Source: Wikipedia
and

"The anus is part of both the male and female sexual system. The external anal sphincter is one of the most sensitive parts of the human body, with one of the densest concentrations of nerve endings. You can get a lot of pleasure out of external anal stimulation without ever going inside."
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Wow, who would have thought! I didn't.

So, my question is: Why would god put such an abundance of pleasure-producing nerve endings in the anus unless he intended them to be stimulated, and in turn provide sexual gratification?

I don't necessarily expect a good scientific or theological answer, but would like the reasonable Christian here to evaluate their religion's position on it, particularly in light gay anal sex. If god thinks gay anal sex is sinful, why put all these pleasurable nerve endings in the male anus? Likewise, putting them in a female anus would seem to invite male-female anal sex.

Seems to me something in Christian theology has gone very much awry. My suspicion is that it's a prejudice that arose out of simple revulsion among heterosexuals toward anal sex .

Your thoughts.

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Some Christians teach or assume that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because of homosexuality...

Ezekiel 16:49-50 49"'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Some Christians teach or assume that Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because of homosexuality...

Ezekiel 16:49-50 49"'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.

Some think those places existed. See Ron Wyatt for srunning
proof.
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Some think those places existed. See Ron Wyatt for srunning
proof.

LOLOL.. Ron Wyatt was a con artist.

Ezekiel 16:49-50 49"'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. 50They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.
 

Darkforbid

Well-Known Member
Obviously BC hygiene standards were so high no STD's could possibly be transmitted.

And the Torah warnings of sex only for reproduction is totally unwarranted. I mean it's not like ****ing for fun has killed millions
 
Many of the god character's acolytes weren't very pleasant people like that guy Noah, who cursed his son when he was as drunk as a skunk!:mad:
That story was planted there to discredit the whole idea of God's Blessing, to the whole of humanity, including the Father of Canaan and his descendants. How could Noah's curse on Canaan, trump God's Blessing . A nasty little story to be rejected.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Obviously BC hygiene standards were so high no STD's could possibly be transmitted.

And the Torah warnings of sex only for reproduction is totally unwarranted. I mean it's not like ****ing for fun has killed millions


too much sarcasm to be translatable
 

JJ50

Well-Known Member
That story was planted there to discredit the whole idea of God's Blessing, to the whole of humanity, including the Father of Canaan and his descendants. How could Noah's curse on Canaan, trump God's Blessing . A nasty little story to be rejected.

Any blessing attributed to the Bible god character would be a curse, imo!
 

Audie

Veteran Member
There are some things worth taking note of in that book, just as there are in other books too.

Someone dismisses "Egypt" because it is
in the bible?

Nobody automatically dismisses everything in the
bible. The claim that anyone does is in the same
class of absurd as the unicorn, and the flood.

Not that you or anyone with a grain of sense
does not know that.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
That story was planted there to discredit the whole idea of God's Blessing, to the whole of humanity, including the Father of Canaan and his descendants. How could Noah's curse on Canaan, trump God's Blessing . A nasty little story to be rejected.

Kinda like "Adam and Eve", the 6 day poof, the flood,
exodus, tower of babel, Samson, etc etc are all planted
to discredit?
 

Audie

Veteran Member
The place is so UGY I cannot imagine anyone living there plus Ezekiel says there is a different reason for the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.

The site where Wyatt "found" S and G is a
very unsuitable place for a city. It was not
necessarily always so.

Ozymandias
BY PERCY BYSSHE SHELLEY
I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
 

Audie

Veteran Member
yep. everything after gen 9:19

Odd take. Everything before that is far
more fanciful. Which is a polite way of
saying it is made up bs, demonstrably false.

There is no way an educated and thinking
person could accept a religion that claims
those things are true.

Nobody can so discredit Christianity, and
themselves, as a fundy.
 
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