Christians And Sodomy

[sooda]

The site where Wyatt "found" S and G is a
very unsuitable place for a city. It was not
necessarily always so.

Ozymandias
BY PERCY BYSSHE SHELLEY
I met a traveller from an antique land,
Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;
And on the pedestal, these words appear:
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

Ron Wyatt has been debunked 6 ways to Sunday.. The climate hasn't changed around the Dead sea in 12,000 years.

 

[Audie]

Ron Wyatt has been debunked 6 ways to Sunday.. The climate hasn't changed around the Dead sea in 12,000 years.

Well,you dont need to tell me that RW is
a piece of work.

World wide, deserts have been on the march,
following the plow, axe, and goat. I dont know
details, but a great deal of the middle east has
been ruined that way.

I muchly doubt the dust storms of todays Iraq and syria
were a feature of the land when people first started
herding and agriculture there.

 

[Darkforbid]

Ron Wyatt has been debunked 6 ways to Sunday.. The climate hasn't changed around the Dead sea in 12,000 years.


Then why do land-use studies throughout the Mediterranean, North Africa, and the Mid-East show the prevalence of crops and forests, which were suited to cooler, wetter climates in the period before 1000 B.C.

 

[Prestor John]

There are some things worth taking note of in that book, just as there are in other books too.

Other books having value should not detract from the Bible's value.

 

[JJ50]

Other books having value should not detract from the Bible's value.

What value?

 

[Prestor John]

The place is so UGY I cannot imagine anyone living there plus Ezekiel says there is a different reason for the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah.

What place?

The Lord destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for many reasons.

 

[Prestor John]

Who does that? Most of us dismiss that which has been shown to be wrong or mythical.

You dismiss things based on assumptions.

 

[Prestor John]

What value?

Are you intimating that the Bible holds no value?

 

[Subduction Zone]

What place?

The Lord destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for many reasons.

There is no good reason to believe that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You dismiss things based on assumptions.

Nope, you are confused. That is what creationists do.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Are you intimating that the Bible holds no value?

I think he wanted a clarification.

 

[Prestor John]

There is no good reason to believe that.

The qualifier "good" is completely subjective and therefore worthless.

Nope, you are confused. That is what creationists do.

No. You assume that how things work today was how things worked in the past.

You never once consider that the claims had in the scriptures could be true.

I think he wanted a clarification.

I think he can speak for himself.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The qualifier "good" is completely subjective and therefore worthless.

No. You assume that how things work today was how things worked in the past.

You never once consider that the claims had in the scriptures could be true.

I think he can speak for himself.

There is no excuse to excessively break up such a short post, unless one wants to be dishonest. You really don't want to be dishonest, do you?

And please, spreading falsehoods about others is lying. I used to be a Christian, you have been told that, so you have to know that I used to believe many parts of the Bible.

I do not assume that the laws of physics have not changed, that can be shown to be the case. You may assume. In fact you probably do. I am not guilty of that sin.

 

[Sand Dancer]

If you knew anything about anal sex you'd know that there is no "just slips in." But I appreciate your attempt at bragging.

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Super Sphincter!!!

 

[sooda]

Ron Wyatt has been debunked 6 ways to Sunday.. The climate hasn't changed around the Dead sea in 12,000 years.


Then why do land-use studies throughout the Mediterranean, North Africa, and the Mid-East show the prevalence of crops and forests, which were suited to cooler, wetter climates in the period before 1000 B.C.

They don't... you're looking at 10,000 years ago or earlier. Oil exploration and geologists didn't get it wrong.

 

[sooda]

What place?

The Lord destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for many reasons.

If there were cities of the plain, they were probably long gone before Lot and Abraham.....

Ezekiel 16:49 “‘The sin of your sister Sodom was this: She lived with her daughters in the lap of luxury—proud, gluttonous, and lazy. They ignored the oppressed and the poor.

 

[Prestor John]

There is no excuse to excessively break up such a short post, unless one wants to be dishonest. You really don't want to be dishonest, do you?

Unless you can show an example of me attempting to be dishonest by "breaking up a post" your opinion about how I choose to respond to other's post is irrelevant.

I have explained to you in the past why I choose to respond the way I do and it has nothing to do with dishonesty.

And please, spreading falsehoods about others is lying. I used to be a Christian, you have been told that, so you have to know that I used to believe many parts of the Bible.

First off, I have seen no evidence that you have ever been a "Christian" or that you believed in any part of the Bible.

Even if those things were true, how is that supposed to change my observations of what you say today?

Today you do not consider any of the claims of the scriptures could be true.

Have you considered the idea that the Earth and all things upon it had once existed in a paradisiacal state, without decay or death, for an indeterminate amount of time?

Have you considered the possibility that the Earth, once formed, did not always reside in this solar system?

It is an assumption that the Earth was formed where it orbits today and that there was no suspension of mortal law of nature.

Second, you immediately claimed that I was "confused" simply because I believe in Intelligent Design.

You have never been able to prove that I am "confused" about anything, so which one of us is "spreading falsehood" about the other?

I do not assume that the laws of physics have not changed, that can be shown to be the case. You may assume. In fact you probably do. I am not guilty of that sin.

You assume that you can discern and determine all the laws that govern the universe.

Much is hidden from those who cannot see with spiritual eyes.

 

[sooda]

Unless you can show an example of me attempting to be dishonest by "breaking up a post" your opinion about how I choose to respond to other's post is irrelevant.

I have explained to you in the past why I choose to respond the way I do and it has nothing to do with dishonesty.

First off, I have seen no evidence that you have ever been a "Christian" or that you believed in any part of the Bible.

Even if those things were true, how is that supposed to change my observations of what you say today?

Today you do not consider any of the claims of the scriptures could be true.

Have you considered the idea that the Earth and all things upon it had once existed in a paradisiacal state, without decay or death, for an indeterminate amount of time?

Have you considered the possibility that the Earth, once formed, did not always reside in this solar system?

It is an assumption that the Earth was formed where it orbits today and that there was no suspension of mortal law of nature.

Second, you immediately claimed that I was "confused" simply because I believe in Intelligent Design.

You have never been able to prove that I am "confused" about anything, so which one of us is "spreading falsehood" about the other?

You assume that you can discern and determine all the laws that govern the universe.

Much is hidden from those who cannot see with spiritual eyes.

You think earth once existed in a paradisiacal state?

What are spiritual eyes?

Are you familiar with the Bahrain archeipeligo?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Unless you can show an example of me attempting to be dishonest by "breaking up a post" your opinion about how I choose to respond to other's post is irrelevant.

I have explained to you in the past why I choose to respond the way I do and it has nothing to do with dishonesty.

Actually this time you did not do that, but usually people do so to be dishonest and that includes you.

First off, I have seen no evidence that you have ever been a "Christian" or that you believed in any part of the Bible.

Even if those things were true, how is that supposed to change my observations of what you say today?

Today you do not consider any of the claims of the scriptures could be true.

Have you considered the idea that the Earth and all things upon it had once existed in a paradisiacal state, without decay or death, for an indeterminate amount of time?

Have you considered the possibility that the Earth, once formed, did not always reside in this solar system?

It is an assumption that the Earth was formed where it orbits today and that there was no suspension of mortal law of nature.

Second, you immediately claimed that I was "confused" simply because I believe in Intelligent Design.

You have never been able to prove that I am "confused" about anything, so which one of us is "spreading falsehood" about the other?

Last point first, if you are not confused then you it is almost sure that you are a liar. I would rather assume that you were confused rather than lying. As to all of your questions the evidence is clear as to what happened. There is no evidence at all for any of your fanciful "what ifs". What if the universe was the product of Fuchsia Fairy Flatulence? Pointless questions are pointless. Like it or not your beliefs claim that God is a liar. When I was a Christian I did not believe that God lied, the question is why do you?

You assume that you can discern and determine all the laws that govern the universe.

Much is hidden from those who cannot see with spiritual eyes.

No, I assumption is the sin of creationists. I follow the evidence. By the way, why would an honest God hide anything? Again you claim that God is a liar.

And let's not make false claims about other's beliefs past or present in God. By your logic I could claim that your hatred of others tells me that you do not believe in the Christian God either. That probably would not go over well with you.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You think earth once existed in a paradisiacal state?

What are spiritual eyes?

Are you familiar with the Bahrain archeipeligo?

One of my pet peeves regarding creationists is that they accuse others of "assuming" far too often. Usually it is because that is what they would have to do since they refuse to understand the sciences. Ironically it is almost always a breaking of the Ninth Commandment when they make that claim.