Punishment for adultery

[ChristineM]

I wonder how many married people kill each other? Maybe we should put a stop to it?

Thats democracy for ta.

 

[Faithofchristian]

1 Cor. 6:9 "Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men"
Deuteronomy 22:22
"If a man is found lying with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel."

I hope that is close enough. I was generalizing. If Christians don't believe that God will cast adulterers into hell, that's fine with me. But if adulterers won't "inherit" kingdom of God, what will they inherit? And, I guess, God was generalizing too when he said that the man and the woman must die when caught in adultery? And don't say David wasn't caught. God caught him and had the prophet confront him. And then God takes the life of the child? No, some people are above the law. Oh, and that law about stoning, that was God's law and how long is God's law supposed to last? Apparently, until people don't want to enforce it anymore.

Seeing you have no understanding about
1 Corinthians 6:9--"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind"

Keep in mind the word ( adulterers)
Now according to the Greek translation in the Strong's concordance 3432
( Moichos) a primary word; a male
paramour; fig. apostate ---- adulterer.
In other words a homosexual,
man with man. Will not enter the kingdom of God.

 

[ChristineM]

You focused on rate, not quantity. There are many, many more victims of adultery than rape. A smaller rate for a much larger number produces as many comparable victims. Be that as it may, it would not make any difference to the individual victims, now would it? After all, for the victim of adultery that suffers trauma, sickness or death it would be small comfort to be told dismissively, “Oh well, victims of other crimes suffer at a higher rate.”

Moreover you are missing my main point. This isn’t some grotesque game of “my dog’s better than yours” with a race to ghoulishly parade how terrible victims are. The point is that no genuine victim should have to justify themselves. Yet some here, and I am not saying you in particular, have denied to the victims of adultery the same dignity and validation that they would absolutely (and rightly so) insist be extended to victims of other heinous crimes.

Dont tell me what i did to massage your own ego.

Correct, I most certainly have not denied anything of the sort, i just consider them different and incompatible

 

[ChristineM]

I did not write that I can’t. I wrote that I didn’t need to since it is irrelevant. Any such deaths are a tragedy, regardless the number. Or are you arguing that a certain number of innocent deaths is acceptable?

Right

And again you try putting words in my mouth to massage your ego. Nothing chsnges

 

[Faithofchristian]

1 Cor. 6:9 "Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men"
Deuteronomy 22:22
"If a man is found lying with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge the evil from Israel."

I hope that is close enough. I was generalizing. If Christians don't believe that God will cast adulterers into hell, that's fine with me. But if adulterers won't "inherit" kingdom of God, what will they inherit? And, I guess, God was generalizing too when he said that the man and the woman must die when caught in adultery? And don't say David wasn't caught. God caught him and had the prophet confront him. And then God takes the life of the child? No, some people are above the law. Oh, and that law about stoning, that was God's law and how long is God's law supposed to last? Apparently, until people don't want to enforce it anymore.

Adultery of king David isn't the question, that God had taken the child of king David

It was king David having Uriah the Hittite killed that was the greater sin of king David,
All though taking his wife to be king David's wife was bad enough, but killing innocent blood was worse than the adultery.
"and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword"

"Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the Lord, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon" 2 Samuel 12:9

 

[Shaul]

What is the punishment in Judaism these days for adultery? Is it working?

The punishments for adultery in Judaism remain as always, they are described in Torah. Adultery is a grounds for divorce and possibly monetary penalties. It also bars those convicted from certain rights. For example a female convicted of adultery is barred from marrying a priest. Although Judaism in theory allows for capital punishment for adultery, as a practical matter it can not happen today. One reason is that in Jewish law a death penalty can not be given when there is no Sanhedrin (a high Jewish Court). There has not been a Sanhedrin court since the Temple was destroyed and there can not be one until the Temple is restored.

 

[Shaul]

Right

And again you try putting words in my mouth to massage your ego. Nothing chsnges

Well if you prefer statistics let’s start with a couple. According to the UN approximately twenty million people and about a million and a half have contracted AIDS due to adultery.

 

[Faithofchristian]

The punishments for adultery in Judaism remain as always, they are described in Torah. Adultery is a grounds for divorce and possibly monetary penalties. It also bars those convicted from certain rights. For example a female convicted of adultery is barred from marrying a priest. Although Judaism in theory allows for capital punishment for adultery, as a practical matter it can not happen today. One reason is that in Jewish law a death penalty can not be given when there is no Sanhedrin (a high Jewish Court). There has not been a Sanhedrin court since the Temple was destroyed and there can not be one until the Temple is restored.

As for the Temple being restored is very unlikely to happen.
All because where the Temple did set, Now the Muslims have ownner ship. And the dome of the rock of the Muslims sets where the temple did set.
So its going to be hard trying to get the Muslims to give up their holy ground on the temple mount.
So that Israel can build their temple there.
And knowing just how much Muslims do not like Israel.
And not only this, But according to what Christ Jesus has given in the book of Revelation, there will be no rebuilding the temple, all because the Muslims will have that site which the muslims call the dome of the rock, will be there when the false Christ comes and then the true Christ comes and destroy's the dome of the rock, to bring down out of heaven the New Jerusalem down from God.

 

[ChristineM]

Well if you prefer statistics let’s start with a couple. According to the UN approximately twenty million people and about a million and a half have contracted AIDS due to adultery.

Please show the stats. I am not doubting you but i prefer hard evidence

 

[Faithofchristian]

Well if you prefer statistics let’s start with a couple. According to the UN approximately twenty million people and about a million and a half have contracted AIDS due to adultery.

Little do people know that back in the
1800 hundreds, people were more infected with AIDS thru sexual intercourse.
And the women at that time came to be called Calamity, because of carrying diseases thru their prostitution.
As there was a woman who became to known in history as Calamity Jane
The girlfriend of wild Bill Hickok

 

[Shaul]

As for the Temple being restored is very unlikely to happen.
All because where the Temple did set, Now the Muslims have ownner ship. And the dome of the rock of the Muslims sets where the temple did set.
So its going to be hard trying to get the Muslims to give up their holy ground on the temple mount.
So that Israel can build their temple there.
And knowing just how much Muslims do not like Israel.
And not only this, But according to what Christ Jesus has given in the book of Revelation, there will be no rebuilding the temple, all because the Muslims will have that site which the muslims call the dome of the rock, will be there when the false Christ comes and then the true Christ comes and destroy's the dome of the rock, to bring down out of heaven the New Jerusalem down from God.

That is as stated from a particular human perspective. According to Torah it shall happen.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Well if you prefer statistics let’s start with a couple. According to the UN approximately twenty million people and about a million and a half have contracted AIDS due to adultery.

Little do people know that back in the
1800 hundreds, people were more infected with AIDS thru sexual intercourse.
And the women at that time came to be called Calamity.
because of their prostitution.

As there was a woman who became to known in history as Calamity Jane
The girlfriend of wild Bill Hickok.

That is as stated from a particular human perspective. According to Torah it shall happen.

Yeah sure it will, maybe you should let Christ Jesus know that, seeing Christ Jesus has put in his book of Revelation.
The muslims will have ownner ship over the temple mount

 

[TransmutingSoul]

As for the Temple being restored is very unlikely to happen.

That is as stated from a particular human perspective. According to Torah it shall happen.

It has actually happened. It can be discussed in another post. It is not a temple of bricks and mortar.

Regards Tony

 

[CG Didymus]

Seeing you have no understanding about
1 Corinthians 6:9--"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind"

Keep in mind the word ( adulterers)
Now according to the Greek translation in the Strong's concordance 3432
( Moichos) a primary word; a male
paramour; fig. apostate ---- adulterer.
In other words a homosexual,
man with man. Will not enter the kingdom of God.

New American Standard Bible
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,

Seeing I don't have any understanding about this verse, then isn't it lucky I found you. So what are the translators of the NASB thinking? They have adulterers, which you say means "homosexuals", then they say "homosexuals" again? What is that word? How is it different from that first word that means "homosexual" but was translated as "adulterer"? And what are you saying, that God is okay with heterosexual adultery, but not cool with men that are in a committed relationship to cheat on their partner?

 

[CG Didymus]

Adultery of king David isn't the question, that God had taken the child of king David

It was king David having Uriah the Hittite killed that was the greater sin of king David,
All though taking his wife to be king David's wife was bad enough, but killing innocent blood was worse than the adultery.
"and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword"

"Wherefore hast thou despised the commandment of the Lord, to do evil in his sight? thou hast killed Uriah the Hittite with the sword, and hast taken his wife to be thy wife, and hast slain him with the sword of the children of Ammon" 2 Samuel 12:9

So was David punished for his crimes according to what is said in the Law? Or, was God "taking" the child the punishment? Did it work? Did David live a perfect righteous life after that? How about the child? It's okay for a child to die for the sins of the father?

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

2 Timothy 3:1-5 "But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid such people."

How can differentiate the people who are doing right from the people who simply call what is right wrong and how do we determine who is truly wrong?

Do away with our personal failures.

How is a "failure" determined? If I call a toilet that's pouring out water a failure and another person goes, "No, it's a water fountain made from a toilet", then is the toilet a failure or not?

If everyone lived by the Scriptures, there'd be no std's.

People in the scriptures thought diseases came from God. God has the ability as a person with will to do what He pleases. Job was without fault and lots of bad things happened to HIM.

I'm sorry, but do you really think many people claiming Christianity, have lived by Christ's standards?

Please. Jesus didn't even live by Jesus' standards.

 

[Faithofchristian]

New American Standard Bible
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals,

Seeing I don't have any understanding about this verse, then isn't it lucky I found you. So what are the translators of the NASB thinking? They have adulterers, which you say means "homosexuals", then they say "homosexuals" again? What is that word? How is it different from that first word that means "homosexual" but was translated as "adulterer"? And what are you saying, that God is okay with heterosexual adultery, but not cool with men that are in a committed relationship to cheat on their partner?

Seeing how I don't go by the NASB all because man's teachings have corrupted the teachings of Christ Jesus.

To answer your question,( So what are the translators of the NASB thinking)
Sure not God's way of thinking that's for sure, man's teachings will never line up to the teachings of Christ Jesus.

Isaiah 55:8-9
“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord"

9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Maybe had those translators had any knowledge about the Greek and Hebrew languages, they would haved done alot better job in their translation of the Greek and Hebrew languages.

 

[CG Didymus]

The punishments for adultery in Judaism remain as always, they are described in Torah. Adultery is a grounds for divorce and possibly monetary penalties. It also bars those convicted from certain rights. For example a female convicted of adultery is barred from marrying a priest. Although Judaism in theory allows for capital punishment for adultery, as a practical matter it can not happen today. One reason is that in Jewish law a death penalty can not be given when there is no Sanhedrin (a high Jewish Court). There has not been a Sanhedrin court since the Temple was destroyed and there can not be one until the Temple is restored.

Hiding women's bodies doesn't stop it. Stoning people didn't stop it. I don't see any law, even a law from God himself, preventing people from fooling around. A lot of people, including religious people, are going to do it... and hope and pray they don't get caught.

 

[CG Didymus]

Seeing how I don't go by the NASB all because man's teachings have corrupted the teachings of Christ Jesus.

To answer your question,( So what are the translators of the NASB thinking)
Sure not God's way of thinking that's for sure, man's teachings will never line up to the teachings of Christ Jesus.

Isaiah 55:8-9
“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord"

9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

Maybe had those translators had any knowledge about the Greek and Hebrew languages, they would haved done alot better job in their translation of the Greek and Hebrew languages.

Yes, but what is the Greek word translated "homosexual" by the NASB translators?

 

[Faithofchristian]

Yes, but what is the Greek word translated "homosexual" by the NASB translators?

Those translators of the NASB added homosexual into the NASB

Had they understood the Greek Language, to translate the Greek into the English language, they would haved found the
word ( adulterers) meaning homosexual.

As in 1 Corinthians 6:9--"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind"

But what those translators did is add homosexual to the NASB, Which was already there.
But now those translators have homosexual added twice.

Had you read what I said you would have found it was not me saying Adulterers means homosexual,
But the Strong's concordance saying that the Greek 3432 translation for ( adulterers)
Means homosexual.