The rEvolving Doorway

[Brickjectivity]

We Christians believe that evolution is a lie straight from the pits of hell, it's purely Satanic. It contradicts Gods Word as we have it in the book of Genesis.

Its the story told by the world you claim is magically created by words. Consider this that words do create worlds more important than this physical one, but you would rather bask in hate of science. It feels good to be angry at scientists, huh? Totally unprofitable and waste of time just like thumb sucking. God sends the Scientists to point straight to the matter and you call them Satanists? Just like that story of the fellow who refuses to accept help in a flood. Finally he dies, and he complains that God never saved him. Thats you. Learn some things and stop nurturing anger and hate against scientists. They are just reporting what they see.

God created the world in six day and rested on the seventh day, every Christian believes every single word in the Holy Bible. If a person claims to be Christian and doesn't believe every Word, then that exposes them as false professors.

So we must believe every word? What about you? Point the finger at yourself.

 

[Valjean]

Nah, your faith is hopeless, because the world has never been so overwhelmed with cancer and disease which science is hopelessly impotent, when it comes to finding cures.

There are millions of people dying of cancer and diseases, science can't deal with it. Science can't answer any of the basic ABC questions which little children ask, like who am I. were did I come from. why am I here, where am I going.

Science has taken 6000 years to work out the basics of physics, science uses the primitive technique called the process of elimination. They have monkeys in labs working 24/7 performing experiments to work out simple formulas. If they were smart they would be able to work things out much faster.

Science is all about discovering the laws which God placed on His creation, science can't change one single law God ordained and it can't create a single speck of dust, can you see how hopeless they are.

Hogwash!
You think modern medicine hasn't improved on witch-doctery? And 6000 years ago there was no science. The scientific method became common less than 200 years ago. Before that, using faith, progress went at a snail's pace, but just look at what's been learned since scientific thinking has been adopted -- despite religion's desperate efforts to hinder it.

 

[Danny1988]

There is no "fence". The concept of god and the theory of evolution are not mutually exclusive. The only thing evolution conflicts with is literal interpretations of creation myths, which are not prerequisite for belief in a god.

The first commandment the One true God gave us, was not to put other gods before Him. So this shows us that there are many gods, but only one true god all the others are false.

So if we don't believe what the One true God said in His Book of Genesis then we don't believe in the true God but we have been deceived into believing in a false god

 

[Polymath257]

Nah, your faith is hopeless, because the world has never been so overwhelmed with cancer and disease which science is hopelessly impotent, when it comes to finding cures.

There are millions of people dying of cancer and diseases, science can't deal with it. Science can't answer any of the basic ABC questions which little children ask, like who am I. were did I come from. why am I here, where am I going.

Science has taken 6000 years to work out the basics of physics, science uses the primitive technique called the process of elimination. They have monkeys in labs working 24/7 performing experiments to work out simple formulas. If they were smart they would be able to work things out much faster.

Science is all about discovering the laws which God placed on His creation, science can't change one single law God ordained and it can't create a single speck of dust, can you see how hopeless they are.

Several problems in this post:

1. The world is significantly *less* overwhelmed by such diseases as smallpox than it was prior to the rise of science. This is due to the advancements of science.

2. Cancer and other such diseases have *always* been a problem. Now, however, many forms of cancer can be cured. This is due to the advancements of science.

3. Because we live longer now, we are more subject to the diseases of old age. These weren't an issue before because people *died* before getting to the age where they would happen. This is due to the advancements of science.

4. We have much more productive agriculture, so finding nutritious (and non-nutritious) food is much easier than before. Of course, people overeat and so we have diseases like diabetes that don't usually affect undernourished populations. This advance in agriculture is due to the advances in science.

5. Science has not had the ball for a full 6000 years. Modern science only got started about 400-450 years ago. Modern *medicine* got started less than 200 years ago. Given the time religion had control with *no* progress at all, this is remarkably fast progress.

6. Yes, the way to find truth is to eliminate the falsehoods by testing them. Stick with the things that work and refine them as necessary. This is what had lead to the amazing advances in our understanding of the universe over the last 400 years and, especially, in the last 100 years.

7. It is more than ironic for someone to argue that science is useless while typing at a computer that is connected to the internet, allowing communication with people across the globe, based upon an understanding of electricity--all of which is due to the advancements of science.

 

[Audie]

You don't get it, do you?

No matter what you evolutionist say, no matter how thorough, current and precise your answers are they mean nothing to the unbeliever (of evolution) because the answers will change tomorrow. You're preaching to the choir.

Believers, no matter what you say, no matter how thorough, scholarly, and accurate your answers are they mean nothing to the unbeliever (of the Bible) because they will dismiss it as just another interpretation. You are preaching to the choir. And the choir isn't on speaking terms. They're in disagreement.

It's a distraction. Like two party politics. An illusion. A trap, set by oh, I don't know . . . who could it be? SATAN?

Someone sure does not get it.

Satan, of course, is said to be awfully smart, smarter
than any of us.

Im sure he could think of a trap for you to step
in while you think you are cleverly avoiding one.

Questions you provide for the rest of us while
we observe your antics is-

If there is a god, why would he do this to someone?

Why would pursuit of godliness lead someone into
such a perverted state of mind?

Almost enough to make a person take the "Satan"
theory seriously.

 

[Polymath257]

Hogwash!
You think modern medicine hasn't improved on witch-doctery? And 6000 years ago there was no science. The scientific method became common less than 200 years ago. Before that, using faith, progress went at a snail's pace, but just look at what's been learned since scientific thinking has been adopted -- despite religion's desperate efforts to hinder it.

I'd go back to Galileo. He was around 400 years ago. You could even argue 450 if you go back to Copernicus.

 

[Polymath257]

The first commandment the One true God gave us, was not to put other gods before Him. So this shows us that there are many gods, but only one true god all the others are false.

So if we don't believe what the One true God said in His Book of Genesis then we don't believe in the true God but we have been deceived into believing in a false god

One can believe in One True God and not believe Genesis is a report from that God.

 

[Danny1988]

I daresay if Danny or Windsor had been born in Saudi Arabia, they would be defending Islam just as ardently. Their opinions are not based on facts or critical analysis. They're based on what their parents and neighbors told them.

The problem for you is, I know God personally. It had nothing to do with my parents, they believe in the Roman Catholic god, which is the same as the Muslim god.

You will never find God unless He reveals Himself to you and He never will if you remain arrogant.

 

[Polymath257]

The problem for you is, I know God personally. It had nothing to do with my parents, they believe in the Roman Catholic god, which is the same as the Muslim god.

You will never find God unless He reveals Himself to you and He never will if you remain arrogant.

Irony.

 

[Audie]

The first commandment the One true God gave us, was not to put other gods before Him. So this shows us that there are many gods, but only one true god all the others are false.

So if we don't believe what the One true God said in His Book of Genesis then we don't believe in the true God but we have been deceived into believing in a false god

What do you mean by "believe" the bible?

I believe it, tho I am an atheist. That probably
makes no sense to you.

If you "believe" the bible, does that you believe
Jesus was / is a lamb, baa baa?

Maybe you choose how to interpret it?

Or are you gifted, as so many say they are,
by "god" with the power to just know what
is meant by each passage?

Else, how do you KNOW that deep time
and evolution are incompatible with Christianity?

 

[Danny1988]

One can believe in One True God and not believe Genesis is a report from that God.

That's impossible, Gods people all believe His Word as we have it in the Holy Scriptures.

Every single Word is 100% true from cover to cover and there are no contradictions. All the prophecies have been fulfilled and there are still some to come.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Nah, your faith is hopeless, because the world has never been so overwhelmed with cancer and disease which science is hopelessly impotent, when it comes to finding cures.

Uh huh. That's why survival rates from various forms of cancer have increased immeasurably over the last few decades. Also, what kind of sick, cynical mentality looks at the cures for polio, smallpox and malaria and says "It's hopeless, because we still have cancer."

There are millions of people dying of cancer and diseases, science can't deal with it.

Science IS dealing with it. And it will deal with it in time like it dealt with polio, smallpox and malaria.

Science can't answer any of the basic ABC questions which little children ask, like who am I. were did I come from. why am I here, where am I going.

So you're criticizing science for not being a philosophy or being able to magically see into the future?

I'll settle for it simply being the most successful process for understanding the truth of the natural world, and for being far, far more successful in that endeavor than your beliefs are.

Science has taken 6000 years to work out the basics of physics, science uses the primitive technique called the process of elimination.

And yet, it works, and has saved billions of lives.

They have monkeys in labs working 24/7 performing experiments to work out simple formulas. If they were smart they would be able to work things out much faster.

Wow. That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. Because science can't work at a pace you want it to, scientists must be stupid and science is a pointless endeavor.

Tell me, how many diseases have you cured? Rockets launched? Computers built?

Science is all about discovering the laws which God placed on His creation, science can't change one single law God ordained and it can't create a single speck of dust, can you see how hopeless they are.

If that's what you want to believe. But you're the one who dragged science down to the level of religion.

If it's a faith, then science is undoubtedly and demonstrably a better faith than yours, because all you can criticize it for is not being able to do everything you want it to do right away, and you have to ignore absolutely all of the good it does and continues to do.

Science already won. Get over it.

 

[Rival]

All the prophecies have been fulfilled and there are still some to come.

This makes no sense. Either they have all been fulfilled and there is nothing left or they haven't and there are some left.

As we can see from reading the prophets, there are many things as yet unfulfilled.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

You don't get it, do you?

No matter what you evolutionist say, no matter how thorough, current and precise your answers are they mean nothing to the unbeliever (of evolution)

No, those of us who've been having this discussion are very well aware that some people aren't approaching the matter from an intellectually honest direction. But thanks for pointing it out for the newbs.

 

[Danny1988]

What do you mean by "believe" the bible?

I believe it, tho I am an atheist. That probably
makes no sense to you.

If you "believe" the bible, does that you believe
Jesus was / is a lamb, baa baa?

Maybe you choose how to interpret it?

Or are you gifted, as so many say they are,
by "god" with the power to just know what
is meant by each passage?

Else, how do you KNOW that deep time
and evolution are incompatible with Christianity?

I know you don't believe the Bible, it's impossible for anyone other than Christians to believe it. The Bible says that the Word of God is foolishness to the reprobate (damned)

Your right, it only makes sense to those who are the elect of God. The rest can never believe it, no matter how hard they try.

 

[Audie]

That's impossible, Gods people all believe His Word as we have it in the Holy Scriptures.

Every single Word is 100% true from cover to cover and there are no contradictions. All the prophecies have been fulfilled and there are still some to come.

Ok, lets see, 100 percent.

So, when the "sea" in kings is described as 30 cubits
around and 10 across, that is 30.0000000000000000000000000 on to infinity,
and 10.000000000000 to infinity.

correct? If not, it is not 100%

Careful now.

(Oh, I see that you do think Jesus was a lamb,
and a door, both. )

 

[Danny1988]

This makes no sense. Either they have all been fulfilled and there is nothing left or they haven't and there are some left.

As we can see from reading the prophets, there are many things as yet unfulfilled.

That's right, there are still some events to come. Like the great tribulation, in the book of Revelation. It tells us that the biggest war in human history will happen and 2/3 of the world population will be wiped out in one day.

We are expecting this to happen soon because we now have the means at our disposal. It says that it will start in the Middle East, Iran is hell bent on developing nuclear weapons and it promises to use them on Israel and it's allies.

 

[Audie]

I know you don't believe the Bible, it's impossible for anyone other than Christians to believe it. The Bible says that the Word of God is foolishness to the reprobate (damned)

Your right, it only makes sense to those who are the elect of God. The rest can never believe it, no matter how hard they try.

I do believe it, and you've no standing to say otherwise.

Did you have some reason to just skip the rest of my post,
like so you could concentrate on making up something about me?

Here it is again.

If you "believe" the bible, does that you believe
Jesus was / is a lamb, baa baa?

Maybe you choose how to interpret it?

Or are you gifted, as so many say they are,
by "god" with the power to just know what
is meant by each passage?

Tell us, Jesus=bab baa sheep, or what?

And are you gifted with infallible reading skill?

 

[Audie]

That's right, there are still some events to come. Like the great tribulation, in the book of Revelation. It tells us that the biggest war in human history will happen and 2/3 of the world population will be wiped out in one day.

We are expecting this to happen soon because we now have the means at our disposal. It says that it will start in the Middle East, Iran is hell bent on developing nuclear weapons and it promises to use them on Israel and it's allies.

So why do you say things that make no sense and are obviously not true?

All the prophecies have been fulfilled and there are still some to come.

 

[Rival]

That's right, there are still some events to come. Like the great tribulation, in the book of Revelation. It tells us that the biggest war in human history will happen and 2/3 of the world population will be wiped out in one day.

We are expecting this to happen soon because we now have the means at our disposal. It says that it will start in the Middle East, Iran is hell bent on developing nuclear weapons and it promises to use them on Israel and it's allies.

Not quite what I meant, but I understand this is what you believe.

There are many prophecies in the Tanach as yet unfulfilled.