Go Ahead and Hit the Kid. You Have My Permission

[Skwim]

"Responding to a Texas school district’s reinstatement of corporal punishment, a satanic church has erected a billboard there that reads “Our religion doesn’t believe in hitting children.”

Trustees in the Three Rivers Independent School District recently voted 6-0 to allow administrators to paddle kids who misbehave — as long as their parents first sign a waiver, according to reports.

The Satanic Temple called the practice — one of several punishments often included in artistic depictions of hell — “sadistic” and “barbaric.”

“We find it sad and irresponsible that the Three Rivers Independent School District would be backward enough to re-introduce this barbaric and counterproductive practice into their schools,” church spokesman Lucien Greaves said in a statement.

Reps from the Three Rivers Independent School District, which encompasses two campuses situated halfway between San Antonio and Corpus Christi, did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
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Sooo . . . . corporal punishment in schools or not? And does the Satanic Church seem to sending the message that Satanism is more civil than Christianity?

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[Terrywoodenpic]

Is there no state or federal law agaist physically abusing children. As in all European countries.?

 

[Nakosis]

"Responding to a Texas school district’s reinstatement of corporal punishment, a satanic church has erected a billboard there that reads “Our religion doesn’t believe in hitting children.”

Trustees in the Three Rivers Independent School District recently voted 6-0 to allow administrators to paddle kids who misbehave — as long as their parents first sign a waiver, according to reports.

The Satanic Temple called the practice — one of several punishments often included in artistic depictions of hell — “sadistic” and “barbaric.”

“We find it sad and irresponsible that the Three Rivers Independent School District would be backward enough to re-introduce this barbaric and counterproductive practice into their schools,” church spokesman Lucien Greaves said in a statement.

Reps from the Three Rivers Independent School District, which encompasses two campuses situated halfway between San Antonio and Corpus Christi, did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
Source​

Sooo . . . . corporal punishment on schools or not? And does the Satanic Church seem to sending the message that Satanism is more civil than Christianity?

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Proverbs 13:24King James Version (KJV)
24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

Obviously Satanism wants folks to lived undisciplined, wicked lives.

(posted with a bit of sarcasm)

 

[NewGuyOnTheBlock]

Is there no state or federal law agaist physically abusing children. As in all European countries.?

Yes.

However, spanking or paddling, within certain limits/guidelines, is not considered abuse by our federal government and by a large percentage of our populace.

In contemplating my response, please bear in mind that not all spankings are equal.

 

[Vinayaka]

Do it to an adult, and it's assault.

 

[Valjean]

Should our actions be guided by reason and evidence, or by emotion and tradition?
I understand that all US psychological associations have found corporal punishment to be counter productive.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Yes.

However, spanking or paddling, within certain limits/guidelines, is not considered abuse by our federal government and by a large percentage of our populace.

In contemplating my response, please bear in mind that not all spankings are equal.

They are equal in the sense that they are always counter productive.
I teaches that being violent and using physical force is a better way to control people than using reason and persuasion.

I was brought up in an age when it was thought that beating children was good for them...so I must now be very good indeed.
However I always preferred to be beaten, than have other punishments, as I had high pain threshold and got the punishment over with instantly. It is a very stupid punishment indeed.
It destroys the spirit of the weak, and teaches the strong not to fear pain. Which of course is totally counter productive.

 

[Valjean]

It replaces an internalized morality with fear of pain. Fear of pain is effective only when the individual perceives punishment as an imminent threat.

 

[Quintessence]

Only administrators? Well, that doesn't smell of corruption at all...

On the plus side, the moment an administrator gets their wires crossed and forgets who did and didn't sign the waiver (which will happen), the parents can sue the crap out of this school district and get this nonsense terminated.

 

[Ingledsva]

I believe children should be punished; - however, - not by paddling them, as this has led to severe back and leg injuries in the past.

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[Father]

Children on the severe instance it can be justified to beat them upside the head for being stupid. only if its a very severe instance like joyriding in a car or some stupid thing that can get them or other's killed. however over petty things no. that's just a result of bad parents who don't have significant IQ between them and are too stupid to understand the consequences of raising a child to fear and respect authority blindly and not why they should listen to certain rules.

and to give the horribly flawed Educational system of America whose sole purpose is not education but indoctrination, working on textbooks from the lowest bidder and housing industrial age ideals in the 21st century. giving them the power to hit one's kid for "misbehaving" is such a stupid idea I would beat the hell out of the person who came up with it my self. what would even deserve getting beaten for "misbehaving" fidgeting in one's chair or talking? your kid does not have ADHD, the sickness if from stuffing humans in a prison-like environment and throwing books at them and expecting them to learn.

then again I don't have kids am below the age of 20, so whats my say worth? do as you please. however, if I found out any institutionalized system hit my child for any reason you would have on your hands a massacre far worse than the Vegas shooting.

 

[Skwim]

Proverbs 13:24King James Version (KJV)
24 He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.

And one could easily conclude this was squeezed into scripture by some scribe who was having trouble with his daughter or son, or maybe just liked hitting kids.

Obviously Satanism wants folks to lived undisciplined, wicked lives.

And a disciplined life necessarily includes corporal punishment.

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[Rival]

It replaces an internalized morality with fear of pain. Fear of pain is effective only when the individual perceives punishment as an imminent threat.

Not everyone has internalised morality. That's just not a thing.

 

[Valjean]

Of course it's a thing. Some of us are motivated by conscience. For some of us it is painful to harm others.

 

[BSM1]

I voted emphatically no. In one particular state that I spent a few years in, paddling was not only allowed, it was encouraged. Sometimes the paddler was not necessarily a good person, nor did they realize their strength. One incident readily comes to mind. My teacher in seventh grade geography was a rather tall and fit ex-Air Force Major. His standard operating procedure was to give one paddle lick for every point you got below 70 on any test. This applied to girls as well as boys. I can still see those poor girls bent over a chair with their butts sticking out receiving a visious blow with that short paddle that would sometimes lift them off the floor. So when my kids were coming up in school God help you if you laid a wooden object on any part of their bodies. If they had done something so egregious that you felt you had to physically pummel them then you better had called me.

 

[Nakosis]

Not everyone has internalised morality. That's just not a thing.

External morality I call ethics. It's what I was taught even though most use ethics and morality as interchangeable.

Morals - Internalized ideas of what is right and wrong.

Ethics - Ideas of right and wrong from an external source, like God.

Civil Laws - Legally acceptable behavior of what's right and wrong that's enforced by a governing body.

Not that I'm expecting anyone to accept these definitions, it just helps me to keep these concepts separate.

 

[Nakosis]

I voted emphatically no. In one particular state that I spent a few years in, paddling was no only allowed, it was encouraged. Sometimes the paddler was not necessarily a good person, nor did they realize their strength. One incident readily comes to mind. My teacher in seventh grade geography was a rather tall and fit ex-Air Force Major. His standard operating procedure was to give one paddle lick for every point you got below 70 on any test. This applied to girls as well as boys. I can still see those poor girls bent over a chair with their butts sticking out receiving a visious blow with that short paddle that would sometimes lift them off the floor. So when my kids were coming up in school God help you if you laid a wooden object on any part of their bodies. If they had done something so egregious that you felt you had to physically pummel them then you better had called me.

I had a math teacher like that. If you got spanked however you got to sign the board. It was almost a status symbol among the students to have your name on the board.

 

[Rival]

Of course it's a thing. Some of us are motivated by conscience. For some of us it is painful to harm others.

Internal ethics comes in degrees. There are some people who lack empathy and have no conscience.

 

[Valjean]

Internal ethics comes in degrees. There are some people who lack empathy and have no conscience.

And raising children to fear punishment rather than understand the social implications of their actions promotes this sociopathy, IMHO.

 

[Rival]

And raising children to fear punishment rather than understand the social implications of their actions promotes this sociopathy, IMHO.

In my opinion, capitalism as a whole promotes it. The way western society is seeks these types as business leaders and managers. But that might be a little off topic.