Mister Silver
Faith's Nightmare
I remember philosophy class; doesn't a god need to meet certain criteria in order to be considered a god?
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I remember philosophy class; doesn't a god need to meet certain criteria in order to be considered a god?
Yes, because he does what G-d created him to do.So Judaism teaches that Satan is a good little angel who is going to heaven?
That's interesting. I didn't learn that in Philosophy class and didn't know Philosophy had a definition for what constitutes god status.
Yes, because he does what G-d created him to do.
One never stops learning:
Concepts of God (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)
It's better than G-d creating a creature He knows will rebel, can't win and who He will damn forever because of it.I never knew such a thing and never would have dreamt it.
It's better than G-d creating a creature He knows will rebel, can't win and who He will damn forever because of it.
Maybe to you but not to Jesus. I'll go with Jesus.
Which one? The white American Republican one or the biblical hippy one?
I'll go with G-d.Maybe to you but not to Jesus. I'll go with Jesus.
I don't get where you got that from.satan is a servant of god, doing god's will to bring us to temptation. how come satan is considered a god of his own?
The Abrahamic religions are taken to be monotheistic, so the logic is for a single god.satan is a servant of god, doing god's will to bring us to temptation. how come satan is considered a god of his own?
Yahweh has a serious track record in the human sacrifice department.There is speculation that Satan is one or more of the pagan Deities that demanded human sacrifice
Is this what Christianity teaches or just your personal belief?Satan is an enemy of God and all God's servants. He is spoken of as a roaring lion going about trying to kill us. The ruler of this world, a god of this system of things.
And you believe Demons to be fallen Angels?The demons and satan all set themselves up to be worshiped as gods. Satan seems to have been among many others, Zeus. Thus, when people worshiped these demons who presented themselves to people with real acts of sometimes superhuman activities people naturally took them to be gods.
Satan ruler of this world:Is this what Christianity teaches or just your personal belief?
And you believe Demons to be fallen Angels?
People rebel against God. How then is there one God? Its the same question.
So the Snake in the Garden of Eden was such a accuser/seducer?There is no person, character or entity found anywhere in the Hebrew Scriptures named “Satan.” The Hebrew Masculine Noun – שָׂטָן – satan is not a Name or even a Proper Noun; it is simply a common Masculine Noun which means: 1) adversary, opponent, 2) accuser.
There are only two locations in the entire Hebrew Bible where any entity is given the title – הַשָּׂטָן – hasatan, “the Accuser;” Z’ḵar’yah/Zechariah 3:1-3; and the first two chapters of the story of ʾIyyov/Job. Just the very locations where “the accuser” is mentioned should send red flags flying miles into the air.
Z’ḵar’yah haNavi was having a vision, a God given hallucination, it wasn’t real. His vision was of a courtroom scene taking place in Heaven with Y’hoshuaʿ the High Priest on trial. A random angel was acting as his defense attorney and – הַשָּׂטָן עֹמֵד עַל־יְמִינוֹ לְשִׂטְנוֹ – hasatan ʿoméd ʿal-y’miyno l’sit’no – “the Accuser stood on his right hand side to accuse him.” The Accuser is nothing more than the Prosecuting Attorney in God’s heavenly Court. But keep in mind that this is a vision, not a real event. The High Priest Y’hoshuaʿ ben-Yotzadaq never went to heaven for a trial.
The story of ʾIyyov, which is part of the K’tuviym in the Hebrew Bible, is a fable. What is a fable? It is a story that teaches a moral lesson. However, even in this story the Accuser is simply doing its job; it is accusing ʾIyyov of being a fair-weather follower. What is a Prosecutor’s job? To bring charges against a suspect, and prove them in court beyond a reasonable doubt. This is exactly what the Accuser was doing with ʾIyyov. But again, ʾIyyov is a fable, and the moral of the story is: remain loyal to God even through the bad times and He will reward you.
“The Accuser” is likely nothing more than a metaphor for the yétzer hara. Either way, there is no such thing as a devil in Judaism, or is there any such thing as fallen, or disobedient angels.