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Once again no comment from Obama as an Egyptian church is bombed at Christmas... why so minimal?

love

tri-polar optimist
Why is the Obama administration so minimalistic regarding religious persecution and particularly of Christians (He claims to be one, after all as does Hillary)

see reporting at:
Cairo church bombing kills 25, raises fears among Christians

One of the reasons I seriously doubt either Obama or Clinton are Christians is the minimalistic response to terrorism even as churches were bombed at Easter or Christmas in parts of the middle east' There was a long history of such in the middle east with Obama rarely and minimalistically speaking to issues of persecution of non muslim minorities in the middle east which rose during his years.... so... why is that?

Still waters run deep.
Unlike our President elect who talks in his sleep, President Obama's ability to remain silent in crucial times was made evident on many occasions.
Unless you are negotiating, why would you tell your adversary your thoughts?
There can be no negotiation with a gang who boast of deliberately destroying a building with loving people inside simply because they are Christians
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Why is the Obama administration so minimalistic regarding religious persecution and particularly of Christians (He claims to be one, after all as does Hillary)

see reporting at:
Cairo church bombing kills 25, raises fears among Christians

One of the reasons I seriously doubt either Obama or Clinton are Christians is the minimalistic response to terrorism even as churches were bombed at Easter or Christmas in parts of the middle east' There was a long history of such in the middle east with Obama rarely and minimalistically speaking to issues of persecution of non muslim minorities in the middle east which rose during his years.... so... why is that?

Other than the twenty year long war against it, what would you have them do? Do you think platitudes from a podium will help end the religious insanity?

What did Trump say? This will soon be his problem now......
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
Why is the Obama administration so minimalistic regarding religious persecution and particularly of Christians (He claims to be one, after all as does Hillary)

see reporting at:
Cairo church bombing kills 25, raises fears among Christians

One of the reasons I seriously doubt either Obama or Clinton are Christians is the minimalistic response to terrorism even as churches were bombed at Easter or Christmas in parts of the middle east' There was a long history of such in the middle east with Obama rarely and minimalistically speaking to issues of persecution of non muslim minorities in the middle east which rose during his years.... so... why is that?


Here is his response: 'Horrible': Christian churches across Egypt stormed, torched - CNN.com

Please post the republican response for all to see.
 

meghanwaterlillies

Well-Known Member
My view is that Obama appears willing to throw his weight around about settlements in Israel in a not very helpful way ... and then goes hush hush when non muslim minorities are blown up on Christmas.... strikes me as more than odd.

The not appearing to take sides by not voting is a long held strategy of Obama going back to his days in Illinois when he would vote 'present' to abortion issues as part of a strategy of not being identified as pro abortion. Similar here. Silence is not neutral but gives an illusion of neutrality.
I don't like it but I also kind of disagree with the settlements. Bringing in more that might not like them. For example; some hated them attacked them; left, were more nationalistic about whatever place they came from, some of them attacked and killed people and their children but then for example they wanted what they have type of thing okay so they go back make them a settlement.
I don't get it.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
How many people actually expect Obama to be their b***?

Because, make no mistake, that is what this thread is complaining about.

We are going to have very difficult times ahead. And Trump did not even swear in yet.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
What did Trump say? This will soon be his problem now......
It's his problem now. He is president elect and has everyone on Capitol Hill on his team. Obama has no support, it doesn't matter what he says or thinks. Obama can't do anything.
What is Trump doing and saying? And, can anybody believe him when he does say something? Will he be more honest about this than his tax returns? Or will he just say whatever pops into his Twitter at 3am and his supporters insist that it doesn't matter?
Tom
 

esmith

Veteran Member
Is there any particular reason why he should speak on a matter that clearly does not relate to his duties?
Well the Obama seems to have a penchant for doing just that. Of course we can't fault him for doing so, he is the most wise man he knows.
 

habiru

Active Member
It is for certain that Obama doesn't like American because of it founded by Christianity followers. But I do know that he doesn't really care that much for Muslims as well, because of Allah which means God. But I believes that he is using the Muslim radicals to destroy the peace in this nation. He is really an Antichrist which means someone that doesn't like Christ or Christianity. And I noticed that Hillary also doesn't like Christianity; and that is why the both of them can get along with one another. When Hillary had lost the election. There were riots going on. And instead of Obama trying to defused the situation, he had encouraged the rioters to never give up. Hillary and him were both encouraging the riots to go on. And so, no one should never listen to someone that has that type of mentality that they has. It is the job of the government to insure domestic tranquility. But they were not and which makes them treasonous. That they are the ones trying to commit hostile acts against their own country, but they are claiming that those that are trying to mend things with Russia are the ones that are committing treason. They are trying to get every country to hate this country and then bring in those that are known to not like our lifestyle, into this country. The Bushes even they supported Hillary. And Ted Cruz the one that supported Hillary, want President Trump to elect him to be a supreme court justice.But which that shows that they are using these positions to make money by accepting bribes. And the only ones that has the money to pay them off, are Soros and the Saudis. the Saudis still enslaves Black people as well as any other race. And so that shows that Obama doesn't cares about Blacks lives. The word that the Saudis uses to describe a Black person, that the word that they use means slave. And so they are pushing someones elses agenda that they are receiving money from.


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omega2xx

Well-Known Member
I don't remember the Egyptian governments response to #BLM instigating the Dallas police shootings. You know why?
Because it's none of their business and their opinions don't matter to me.
Same with Obama and a violent tragedy in Egypt. None of his business and Egyptians don't care about his opinion on the subject.
Tom

Then he should never had made a comment about anything, but he has many times. Why does he pick and choose? He has never said anything bad about Muslims; he has never said anything good about Jews, in fact he insulted Israels PM more than once.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Then he should never had made a comment about anything, but he has many times. Why does he pick and choose? He has never said anything bad about Muslims; he has never said anything good about Jews, in fact he insulted Israels PM more than once.
As a Jew who has listened many times to his praise of some Jews and Jews in general, you are just frankly lying through your teeth.

As a senator, Obama was rated by one of the Jewish lobbying groups as having 100% support for Israel. He has spoken many times over his presidency to Jewish groups with no anti-Semitic controversy coming forth. Yes, he and Bibi don't get along, but neither did the elder Bush get along with Bibi either.

"To bear false witness", as you have done, is a serious sin according to both Jewish and Christian teachings because of its scriptural prohibition.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
It is for certain that Obama doesn't like American because of it founded by Christianity followers. But I do know that he doesn't really care that much for Muslims as well, because of Allah which means God. But I believes that he is using the Muslim radicals to destroy the peace in this nation. He is really an Antichrist which means someone that doesn't like Christ or Christianity. And I noticed that Hillary also doesn't like Christianity; and that is why the both of them can get along with one another. When Hillary had lost the election. There were riots going on. And instead of Obama trying to defused the situation, he had encouraged the rioters to never give up. Hillary and him were both encouraging the riots to go on. And so, no one should never listen to someone that has that type of mentality that they has. It is the job of the government to insure domestic tranquility. But they were not and which makes them treasonous. That they are the ones trying to commit hostile acts against their own country, but they are claiming that those that are trying to mend things with Russia are the ones that are committing treason. They are trying to get every country to hate this country and then bring in those that are known to not like our lifestyle, into this country. The Bushes even they supported Hillary. And Ted Cruz the one that supported Hillary, want President Trump to elect him to be a supreme court justice.But which that shows that they are using these positions to make money by accepting bribes. And the only ones that has the money to pay them off, are Soros and the Saudis. the Saudis still enslaves Black people as well as any other race. And so that shows that Obama doesn't cares about Blacks lives. The word that the Saudis uses to describe a Black person, that the word that they use means slave. And so they are pushing someones elses agenda that they are receiving money from.
My comment on my last post applies to your post as well.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Well the Obama seems to have a penchant for doing just that. Of course we can't fault him for doing so, he is the most wise man he knows.
What a waste of words. I wish you valued your time at least a bit more.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
What a waste of words. I wish you valued your time at least a bit more.
What's the problem, have an issue with the truth. Look the man is narcissistic and has a tendency to comment on issues that have nothing to do with the Office of the President.
If it was such a waste of words why are you commenting on it. Normally if I find a post that I find irrelevant I ignore it. But since you seem to idolize the Obama I can understand your need to defend him.
 

omega2xx

Well-Known Member
As a Jew who has listened many times to his praise of some Jews and Jews in general, you are just frankly lying through your teeth.

As a senator, Obama was rated by one of the Jewish lobbying groups as having 100% support for Israel. He has spoken many times over his presidency to Jewish groups with no anti-Semitic controversy coming forth. Yes, he and Bibi don't get along, but neither did the elder Bush get along with Bibi either.

"To bear false witness", as you have done, is a serious sin according to both Jewish and Christian teachings because of its scriptural prohibition.

Too judge me for what you THINK is wrong is worse. What he did as a senator is far different than what he has done a president. If he is so wonderful to the Jews, what is Israel's PM so up set with him? He certainly has insulted their PM more than once. He has never criticized any Muslim country and they are more anti-American than Israel is.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
It is for certain that Obama doesn't like American because of it founded by Christianity followers.
Wow, and you really believe that. America wasn't founded on christianity anyways. Not sure who taught you that.
What's the problem, have an issue with the truth. Look the man is narcissistic and has a tendency to comment on issues that have nothing to do with the Office of the President.
If it was such a waste of words why are you commenting on it. Normally if I find a post that I find irrelevant I ignore it. But since you seem to idolize the Obama I can understand your need to defend him.
Only your media makes a big deal about it. Selectively choosing to be outraged over nothing and ignoring the fact all presidents do these things. We call that, hypocrisy. But I noticed you didn't provide examples either, you just say it. That's what your media does too. No examples.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
Too judge me for what you THINK is wrong is worse. What he did as a senator is far different than what he has done a president. If he is so wonderful to the Jews, what is Israel's PM so up set with him? He certainly has insulted their PM more than once. He has never criticized any Muslim country and they are more anti-American than Israel is.
Obama is loved by the jews. So much that Israel awarded Obama their highest honor a couple years back. Bushy didn't get that.

Obama Receives Israel's Highest Honor
 

habiru

Active Member
Wow, and you really believe that. America wasn't founded on christianity anyways. Not sure who taught you that.

Only your media makes a big deal about it. Selectively choosing to be outraged over nothing and ignoring the fact all presidents do these things. We call that, hypocrisy. But I noticed you didn't provide examples either, you just say it. That's what your media does too. No examples.
Well, one thing they fled from England for their own belief in God. And another thing is that they all had Christian names, and which only people names their children from characters of their religious books. But if there were someone named Mohammed, Zuess or Thor that had landed on Plymouth Rock at the time, then I will change my opinion about this country had started off as a Christian nation. That is one thing that these little devils were unable to change in the history books was the names, that has proven that what religion they all had followed after they has left England until the signing of the Constitution..

James Madison, Jr., (March 16 [O.S. March 5], 1751 – June 28, 1836) was an American statesman and Founding Father who served as the fourth President of the United States from 1809 to 1817. He is hailed as the "Father of the Constitution" for his pivotal role in drafting and promoting the United States Constitution and the Bill of Rights.[3] James Madison - Wikipedia


The religious affiliations of these individuals are summarized below. Obviously this is a very restrictive set of names, and does not include everyone who could be considered an "American Founding Father." But most of the major figures that people generally think of in this context are included using these criteria, including George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Samuel Adams, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, John Hancock, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and more.




Religious Affiliation
of U.S. Founding Fathers
# of
Founding
Fathers
% of
Founding
Fathers

Episcopalian/Anglican 88 54.7%
Presbyterian 30 18.6%
Congregationalist 27 16.8%
Quaker 7 4.3%
Dutch Reformed/German Reformed 6 3.7%
Lutheran 5 3.1%
Catholic 3 1.9%
Huguenot 3 1.9%
Unitarian 3 1.9%
Methodist 2 1.2%
Calvinist 1 0.6%
TOTAL 204
Religion of the Founding Fathers of America

May I rest my case?
 
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