People need to stop misrepresenting trump

[serp777]

All the time I see many people constantly misrepresenting trump. He does say many questionable things and lies quite a bit, just like Hillary Clinton, but a lot of people just straight up lie and mis quote him entirely. One of the first things people bring up is that Trump is a racist because he said that Mexicans are rapists. That is a complete fabrication. First of all Mexican isn't a race, so that isn't racist. He's not saying people with brown skin are rapists. Here's what he actually said.

“When do we beat Mexico at the border? They’re laughing at us, at our stupidity. […] When Mexico sends its people they’re not sending their best. They’re not sending you; they’re not sending you. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists, and some, I assume, are good people. But I speak to border guards and they tell us what we’re getting.”

SO here's he's actually talking about illegal immigrants, not all Mexican immigrants. And then he says, some I assume are good people. This is a dubious claim at best, but its not a reflection of racism in any sense. I'm sure that a small minority of illegal immigrants are rapists, although I couldn't say the percentage. Everyone seems to misquote this all the time.

There's also the thing about the Mexican judge, where people again call Trump a racist because he doubted that the judge with Mexican ancestry was completely unbiased. Trump of course doesn't have the knowledge to claim whether the judge is actually biased or not, but once again Mexican isn't a race, and doubting the neutrality of one person doesn't make him doubt the neutrality of all Mexicans. I see misrepresentations like this all the time and people who misquote politicians are just as bad liars as Trump and Hillary.

 

[Revoltingest]

All the time I see many people constantly misrepresenting trump. He does say many questionable things and lies quite a bit, just like Hillary Clinton, but a lot of people just straight up lie and mis quote him entirely. One of the first things people bring up is that Trump is a racist because he said that Mexicans are rapists. That is a complete fabrication. First of all Mexican isn't a race, so that isn't racist. He's not saying people with brown skin are rapists. Here's what he actually said.



SO here's he's actually talking about illegal immigrants, not all Mexican immigrants. And then he says, some I assume are good people. This is a dubious claim at best, but its not a reflection of racism in any sense. I'm sure that a small minority of illegal immigrants are rapists, although I couldn't say the percentage. Everyone seems to misquote this all the time.

There's also the thing about the Mexican judge, where people again call Trump a racist because he doubted that the judge with Mexican ancestry was completely unbiased. Trump of course doesn't have the knowledge to claim whether the judge is actually biased or not, but once again Mexican isn't a race, and doubting the neutrality of one person doesn't make him doubt the neutrality of all Mexicans. I see misrepresentations like this all the time and people who misquote politicians are just as bad liars as Trump and Hillary.

You're fighting a losing battle on this.
It doesn't matter if the quotes are false.
Said often enuf, these factoids will become permanent.

 

[Quintessence]

I notice your quotation lacks citations.

 

[averageJOE]

Trump may or may not be racist.
ALL his supporters aren't racist either.
But ALL racists are Trump supporters.

 

[Neo Deist]

But ALL racists are Trump supporters.

What about black racists that support Hillary? Just saying...

Racism is not limited to whites only.

 

[psychoslice]

RACISM, I'M SICK OF HEARING THE STUPID WORD.

 

[Revoltingest]

What about black racists that support Hillary? Just saying...

Racism is not limited to whites only.

And misandrists will flock to Hilda.
Isn't all this criticism of supporters a rather shallow way to evaluate candidates?

 

[averageJOE]

What about black racists that support Hillary? Just saying...

Racism is not limited to whites only.

You're right. Like I said, not all his supporters are racist.

 

[columbus]

[QUOTE="averageJOE, post: 4845964, member: 1818678 But ALL racists are Trump supporters.[/QUOTE]
This is just not true. There are plenty of racists out there, including in #BLM and the NAACP.
Not all racists are white USonian people.
Tom

 

[suncowiam]

Here's the issue I have with Trump. His communication sucks. It's very indirect and doesn't really address anything. Also, when he gets cornered he doesnt address the criticism, he attacks his criticizer. I just see no need for this. I mean, no where in my personal or professional life do I ever deal with such a confrontational style of debate. I just dont see it as constructive to attack and counter-attack.

Not saying Clinton is any more perfect but I can stomach Clintons speeches as opposed to Trump's. Well, at least somewhat better.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Skwim]

When I read the title, "People need to stop misrepresenting trump" I thought the thread had to be a lampoon of Trump's campaign tactics, but no, serp777 appears to be honest to god serious about it. Thing is, in politics no one misrepresents people, disparages people, and in general runs them down more than Trump. OR, serp777, do you feel this should be a one-way street?


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[Mindmaster]

This election is just about Daddy (Trump) and Mom (Hillary).

If you had bad daddy relations you hate Trump for absolutely no real reason at all.

If you are self-sufficient and not a ***** you support Trump, almost for no other reason at all.

So ask yourself the question:

When do you grow up?

 

[Quetzal]

One of the first things people bring up is that Trump is a racist because he said that Mexicans are rapists. That is a complete fabrication.

Careful, it isn't a complete fabrication. It is simply one take on a very controversial statement.

First of all Mexican isn't a race, so that isn't racist.

You are playing semantics in lack of a solid argument. Mexican isn't a race, you are right. But that isn't the honest point. The point is he singled out a specific group of people in a way to demean them. Call it what you want, but he was being a jack@#$.

SO here's he's actually talking about illegal immigrants, not all Mexican immigrants.

I understand the topic, I understand his point. My argument is he handled this is a very insensitive way.

Here is the deal, @serp777, you can defend him until the cows come home, but the bottom line is he is on record making some very inappropriate statements for anyone, much less a presidential candidate. For me, it isn't rooted in a single instance, but a collection of them. Sure, as @Revoltingest is good to point out, the Hawk isn't a good alternative. She has said a lot that I disagree with, too. But, so long as we are on the topic of the Donald, I will say that his conduct is very concerning.

 

[Quetzal]

And misandrists will flock to Hilda.
Isn't all this criticism of supporters a rather shallow way to evaluate candidates?

It is, unless you are saying everyone who supports me is handsome and knows what they are talking about. In which case, you are spot on!

 

[Revoltingest]

It is, unless you are saying everyone who supports me is handsome and knows what they are talking about. In which case, you are spot on!

Most of your supporters are small, bottom heavy, gray of complexion, androgynous, randy, & prone to role playing.

 

[Quetzal]

Most of your supporters are small, bottom heavy, gray of complexion, androgynous, randy, & prone to role playing.

Like I said, handsome!

 

[Revoltingest]

If I ever ran for an office, I'd hope to have supporters among......
Feminists
MRAs
Sexists
Bigots
White supremacists
Religious fundamentalists
Black racists
Lawyers
Felons
Drug addicts
Bums
Welfare queens
Hillbillies
Gang bangers
Hermits
Nymphomaniacs
Transexuals
Nerds
Sluts
Rich folk
Poor fok
In between folk
And so on

Edit:
Added by popular request......
Little gray aliens
Canuckistanians

 

[Quetzal]

If I ever ran for an office, I'd hope to have supporters among......
Feminists
MRAs
Sexists
Bigots
White supremacists
Religious fundamentalists
Black racists
Lawyers
Felons
Drug addicts
Bums
Welfare queens
Hillbillies
Gang bangers
Hermits
Nymphomaniacs
Transexuals
Nerds
Sluts
Rich folk
Poor fok
In between folk
And so on

I would say you have the "Aliens under 4 feet" vote, but we only count for 3/5s of a vote. (Historic S-S-S-SLAM!)

 

[Brickjectivity]

I cannot identify with anyone who grew up with so much financial support. There's no way to represent him to me as a healthy individual. I see this as someone who has never had any limitations. I won't believe he's healthy no matter what lies have been told about him and what truths, and its insane to put someone who's never had any limitations in charge of our over-sized enormous military. Its far, far too big and dangerous. Failure has never been a possibility for Mr. Trump, and its a miracle if he's sane. His eccentricities aren't cute but warning signs.

 

[GoodbyeDave]

Just saying...

Urban Dictionary:

Just saying
A phrase used to indicate that we refuse to defend a claim we've made — in other words, that we refuse to offer reasons that what we've said is true.