Understanding and compassion on RF

[Vinayaka]

I believe this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiose_delusions is something we need to remember here some days. Not that helpful as for suggestions on how to respond, but makes us somewhat more aware of what we may be dealing with. Right understanding can be the root to compassion, no?

 

[BSM1]

I would agree with you if I wasn't always right.

 

[Laika]

I believe this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiose_delusions is something we need to remember here some days. Not that helpful as for suggestions on how to respond, but makes us somewhat more aware of what we may be dealing with. Right understanding can be the root to compassion, no?

the internet is a bizzare medium that can simultaneously be personal and anonymous at the same time. it carries emotions very well, isn't really conducive to responsible dialogue and makes it easy to project meaning and intention where there isn't any. the rewards of debating online generally aren't ones that re-inforce our self-worth if we push boundaries enough to see what people actually think. being reasonable and self-censoring is quite a strain but sometimes you get a break through and that can be worth the effort.

 

[Nyingjé Tso]

When it comes to opening a dialogue, you are totally right. But nothing can come from one side only, you can be as informed, compassionnate and understanding as possible, there is nothing that can be accomplished if the other side is not open to dialogue or understanding, then the better thing to do is just.... To let it go.

We can't always achieve all we want, because it doesn't always depends on a single person... But even as we let it go, we walk away with something newly learned. No outcome is a failure, the only failure is to not try !

 

[Vinayaka]

To let it go.

My thoughts as well. After it is clear there is no immanent change, let it go.

On a side note, one of my sons had it, stress induced, and it was a difficult time for our family, not knowing what to say. He finally quit his stressful job, and is pretty much recovered.

 

[4consideration]

Good point. Thanks for the reminder, @Vinayaka.

 

[Jainarayan]

Human psychology is so varied and runs all kinds of spectrums I wonder if even the experts know where the line is between a person simply having a full-of-themselves attitude to GD.

I also think that when it's clear that the other person is only interested in showing their "greatness", it's time to call it quits. Basically, know when to cut your losses. The person is only using you and the conversation to reinforce their delusions of grandeur.

 

[Vinayaka]

Human psychology is so varied and runs all kinds of spectrums I wonder if even the experts know where the line is between a person simply having a full-of-themselves attitude to GD.

I also think that when it's clear that the other person is only interested in showing their "greatness", it's time to call it quits. Basically, know when to cut your losses. The person is only using you and the conversation to reinforce their delusions of grandeur.

I agree, and from what I've read, its a challenge for the so-called experts. All they (and we) can do is try, and show support, not for the delusion, but in a human way.

 

[David1967]

Often the challenge when online it is easy to be anonymously rude is to remember that there is a human being on the other side of the computer screen. Disagreeing on a subject is no excuse to be rude. Now I'm going to do my best to follow my own advice. Thanks for this thread.

 

[Skwim]

I believe this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiose_delusions is something we need to remember here some days. Not that helpful as for suggestions on how to respond, but makes us somewhat more aware of what we may be dealing with. Right understanding can be the root to compassion, no?

Why? Do you honestly think some people here may be suffering from Grandiose delusions (GD) or delusions of grandeur, a subtype of delusion that occur in patients suffering from a wide range of psychiatric illnesses, including a manic state of bipolar disorder with schizophrenia, and patients agrandiose subtype of delusional disorder, and a substance abuse disorders.?
(From your link.)

Really? You think this is what we may be dealing with here?

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[David1967]

Why? Do you honestly think some people here may be suffering from Grandiose delusions (GD) or delusions of grandeur, a subtype of delusion that occur in patients suffering from a wide range of psychiatric illnesses, including a manic state of bipolar disorder with schizophrenia, and patients agrandiose subtype of delusional disorder, and a substance abuse disorders.?
(From your link.)

Honestly? You think this is what we may be dealing with here?

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Don't know skwim...want to talk about it?

 

[Skwim]

Don't know skwim...want to talk about it?

Nothing to talk about.


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[David1967]

Nothing to talk about.


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Well, it was quite a list of disorders.

 

[Skwim]

Well, it was quite a list of disorders.

So what?


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[BSM1]

Often the challenge when online it is easy to be anonymously rude is to remember that there is a human being on the other side of the computer screen. Disagreeing on a subject is no excuse to be rude. Now I'm going to do my best to follow my own advice. Thanks for this thread.

This anonymous rudeness is part of what I call "net cajones". It's easy to try to bully when you never will be face to face.

 

[David1967]

This anonymous rudeness is part of what I call "net cajones". It's easy to try to bully when you never will be face to face.

Exactly.

 

[Burl]

remember that there is a human being on the other side of the computer screen.

Some decidedly peculiar human beings, to be sure.

 

[Quintessence]

I believe this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiose_delusions is something we need to remember here some days. Not that helpful as for suggestions on how to respond, but makes us somewhat more aware of what we may be dealing with. Right understanding can be the root to compassion, no?

My apologies, but I'm having a hard time understanding your point. What does GD have to do with anything here?

 

[David1967]

So what?


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I dunno. ....what?

 

[David1967]

Some decidedly peculiar human beings, to be sure.

Granted.