Trey of Diamonds
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All are appointed by God. The path to prophethood is open to all.
The first qualification is understanding and acceptance of yourself.
Do you seriously believe you're a capital-P Prophet, as in "God's mouthpiece?"
I am becoming the man I never got to be.
OK, then. :sarcasticYes. Capital-P.
However, characterizing a Prophet as God's mouthpiece is off. God doesn't give words to communicate. God gives those who reunite with Him complete understanding. The words proceed from this understanding.
The words are my own and God's concurrently.
What is your definition of "prophet"? In my religion, future telling is a major part of the job in pretty much every case.
Do you feel that because you speak for what you believe is philosophic Truth that this is what makes one a "prophet"? Or do you believe you are actually communicating the will of a higher Sentient Being?
Perhaps your title should be "Enlightened Becoming." You leave the impression that you have already attained some sort of final awakening in which there is nothing else to attain. Maybe I've misunderstood your intentions and how you've been presenting yourself.
I had a few moments in practice in which I felt as if I had become Enlightened. I managed to resist the ego-trick that I was at the end of my journey though, and promptly killed the abstract Buddha I projected. Maybe you could offer me some advice. When does one know beyond a shadow of a doubt that they have reached the end all of enlightenment? Is there not an endless succession of moments to continuously awaken fully to? Or have I misunderstood what you mean by your avatar title?
It does not surprise me that many primitive fundamentalist religions characterize prophecy as future telling, just as it does not surprise me that many primitive fundamentalist religions characterize faith as blind belief which is afraid to understand itself. Both are misunderstandings caused by delusion.
Thank you for calling the entire religion of Judaism a delusion, now would you like to explain your definition of prophet or not? Feel free to explain why your definition is not "primitive" but mine would be.
More like "I'm seeking an ego stroke from beings who might be taken in by my delusions."
Greetings Prophet, I do have a question, well kind of a twofold question, I am a bit curious.. In essence what do you base this qualification off of, and how do you now it to be a true qualification?The first qualification is understanding and acceptance of yourself.
I thought the first qualification was divine inspiration. Is your God telling you to say these things?All are appointed by God. The path to prophethood is open to all.
The first qualification is understanding and acceptance of yourself.
When enlightenment first struck me almost two years ago, I had no idea what it was, or even that enlightenment existed. I went from an extraordinarily non self-aware being to fully self aware. For weeks I was lost in the joy of being with new profound realizations happening every day.
I should add that even when the ego recrystallizes, I still know the Truth. I still come out on top of every debate in my honest opinion, even when I am not thinking the way I am capable of. When my ego is in control, you'll see my goal is to win debates. When the True Self is in control, you'll see my goal is to be understood.
I didn't realize I had met God until days later when I knew the answers to all the questions I had for Him before. I wish I could say for sure that it is the same for everyone in this way, but I am currently watching my brother go through the same transformative process, yet it is much different than what I went through, because we were damaged in different ways.
I'm pretty sure you'll know it when you get there, but, as a rule, you can pretty much count on this: Everyone is going to think that you're crazy. And you will know that they are the crazy ones.
You said the very basis for all the prophetic writings which Judaism holds dear, "future telling", is based on delusion.I didn't call any religion a delusion in itself. I merely identified that fundamentalist religions carry with them a few common delusions.
Okay, so you're calling the Jewish belief that prophets should be able to predict the future to be based on "insanity". I'd personally say someone who claims to be a prophet while outright insulting and dismissing people who ask him what he means by that might be more of an example of the definition."Insanity in individuals is something rare - but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule." -Friedrich Nietzsche
Hmmm, I believe I asked you simply to say what you think a prophet is, not a debate. It appears several people have asked you for this. It appears you are rather unwilling to actually state what kind of "prophet" you think you are for some reason. You think that someone cannot have any doubt in your claims for you to tell them? Not very honest to say the least.I do not care to explain anything for a being who has demonstrated for me (and no doubt, many others) time and time again that he is unwilling to understand anything. Debating you is a waste of time.
Thanks for telling me that I "stopped learning a long time ago", but it seems that I'm not the only person who has asked you what you think a prophet actually is, and you have dodged each person. So rather than insulting me and the basis for my own religion, would you like to kindly admit that you're not actually willing to say what you think a "Prophet" Is? By the fact you call yourself an "Enlightened being", I assume you think you have nothing left to learn? Or do you have a different understanding of "Enlightenment" as well? What are you still learning?I am seeking serious discussion with beings actually interested in learning. You stopped learning long ago.