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Movies You've Seen Recently

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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
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Well, I don't think it was terrible, but I just didn't really like it. What aspect of it do you really love?
Where to start....where to start.....
The movie developed leisurely & unpredictably, & I didn't feel victimized by obvious plot devices like Famous Writer's Trick #12.
I liked the characters....they were all interesting, even the ones not entirely likable. The comedy of the absurd plot basis didn't bleed into other areas.
When Craig inhabited John, doing the puppet shows it actually seemed a believable & interesting story all by itself. The whole movie grew in scope until the end.

For me, the problem is not the weirdness, but the characters.
-Cusack's character was cruel to Malkovich and his wife. He was willing to cheat on his wife for a hot co-worker, was willing to steal someone's body for his own personal use, and was willing to kidnap and keep his wife bound and gagged in a cage.
-Diaz's character wasn't as bad as her husband, but she was still willing to steal Malkovich's body for her own personal use.
-Keener's character was willing to facilitate for money the stealing of Malkovich's body, and willing to have an affair with Cusack's character.
-Malkovich wasn't evil like the others, but not particularly likable.
Basically at the very least, everyone was really selfish, and at worst, some of them were downright evil. For me to like a story, I need to like at least some of the characters, or at least find certain aspects of them likable.
Yeah, the theft of someone else's mind was troublesome for me too. Aren't so many great movies based upon some evil....The Usual Suspects,
The Godfather, Fargo, A Clockwork Orange, LA Confidential, The Unforgiven, etc? But I've seen movies where I couldn't stomach the characters too.
 
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Penumbra

Veteran Member
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Where to start....where to start.....
The movie developed leisurely & unpredictably, & I didn't feel victimized by obvious plot devices like Famous Writer's Trick #12.
I liked the characters....they were all interesting, even the ones not entirely likable. The comedy of the absurd plot basis didn't bleed into other areas.
When Craig inhabited John, doing the puppet shows it actually seemed a believable & interesting story all by itself. The whole movie grew in scope until the end.
I liked some parts. When Malkovich switched careers, and there was a lot of mockumentary by some cameos like Sean Penn, it was funny and well done.

Yeah, the theft of someone else's mind was troublesome for me too. Aren't so many great movies based upon some evil....The Usual Suspects,
The Godfather, Fargo, A Clockwork Orange, LA Confidential, The Unforgiven, etc? But I've seen movies where I couldn't stomach the characters too.
I think some characters can be likable as villains. In other words, while I don't like them, I think they make an excellent and interesting adversary. None of them really did it for me in this movie, though. They were all just self-absorbed and kind of lame in my opinion. =/
 

Rixon

New Member
Recently i watch the movie i am number four , i like that movie, Extraordinary teen John Smith is a fugitive on the run from ruthless enemies sent to destroy him. Changing his identity, moving from town to town with his guardian Henri , John is always the new kid with no ties to his past. In the small Ohio town he now calls home, John encounters unexpected, life-changing events-his first love , powerful new abilities and a connection to the others who share his incredible destiny.
 

MysticSang'ha

Big Squishy Hugger
Premium Member
Black Swan

Hands down THE movie to see when it comes to why ballet really is hard-core and hits you in the gut. Loved it.

LOVED it.
 

RitalinO.D.

Well-Known Member
Just watched Braveheart for the 15th time. Still one of my all time favorites.

Green street hooligans is another good one I recently watched for a third time.
 

Gloone

Well-Known Member
I seen Juno for the first time on TV. And I thought that movie was great. Ellen Page is a great actor in that movie.

I seen clash of the titans and thought that movie was really good too. Lots of mythology, with some very nice 3D graphics and a good story line.
 

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Green street hooligans is another good one I recently watched for a third time.
I liked that movie too.

I seen Juno for the first time on TV. And I thought that movie was great. Ellen Page is a great actor in that movie.
Juno is one of my favorites.

I seen clash of the titans and thought that movie was really good too. Lots of mythology, with some very nice 3D graphics and a good story line.
I really disliked that movie. It didn't have much substance. I attribute it to bad directing.



I recently saw Salt. It was mediocre.
 

Gloone

Well-Known Member
I really disliked that movie. It didn't have much substance. I attribute it to bad directing.
Juno is one of my favorite movies now too! :)
Clash of the Titans - I basically liked it for the graphics and mythology. It was kind of scattered with substance part, but I think that was because they tried to cram a lot of different mythology into it with various plots.
 

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Clash of the Titans - I basically liked it for the graphics and mythology. It was kind of scattered with substance part, but I think that was because they tried to cram a lot of different mythology into it with various plots.
I found the graphics to be decent, although not anything that blows me away. I do like the mythology, but I found the mythology to be presented in an unimpressive way.

In my view, the problem was not that they tried to cram too much in. I think it just had bad directing and a bad screenplay. There are different levels of screen writing and directing skill, and this seems to have been pretty low on that scale. The script was full of cliches, and the pacing was a bit off. I don't think the gods like Zeus and Hades were visually represented in a way that conveys their power at all.
 

Gloone

Well-Known Member
I found the graphics to be decent, although not anything that blows me away. I do like the mythology, but I found the mythology to be presented in an unimpressive way.

In my view, the problem was not that they tried to cram too much in. I think it just had bad directing and a bad screenplay. There are different levels of screen writing and directing skill, and this seems to have been pretty low on that scale. The script was full of cliches, and the pacing was a bit off. I don't think the gods like Zeus and Hades were visually represented in a way that conveys their power at all.
I can see what you are saying. Zeus wasn't really presented like he should have been. He seemed toned down to be some kind of nice guy. Hades had everything about evil and the underworld going on about him though. I didn't find his character to be out of place.
 

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I can see what you are saying. Zeus wasn't really presented like he should have been. He seemed toned down to be some kind of nice guy. Hades had everything about evil and the underworld going on about him though. I didn't find his character to be out of place.
It's kind of hard to put into words what I felt about them. Good directing is one of those things that's easy to spot once you see it, but hard to quantify. It's an art form.

I respect Liam Neeson's acting ability, so I don't think his acting was the flaw for Zeus. It's just the script and the scenery in which they are presented that made the gods look rather ungodly. For instance, they often show full-body shots of them standing or sitting there. Subtle directing choices like that can really alter the perception of a character. To convey power, gods should dominate visually and verbally, and not just in terms of volume and size, if you know what I mean. Representing them skillfully is an art.

I think the actor that played Hades was mediocre, in addition to the less-than-stellar directing. His script and imagery just didn't make me go "wow!". He was like some run-of-the-mill bad guy that happens to have the powers of a Greek god. He didn't make me wonder how they could possibly beat him, or stimulate my anger towards him, or find his character to be enigmatic. He was just kind of bland.

Anyway, that's just my two cents.
 
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