How will religions cope after alien contact?

[yourhopeboundheart]

Still. The Dude abides.

so say we all.

 

[outhouse]

They took one look and decided to come back when we've grown up some more.

thats so true

good one

if they can master space and time, they would be to intellegent to even converse with such a primitive species as us

 

[Caladan]

Just asking: Do you not think aliens exsist because they havn't made it to earth yet?

I'm saying, who gives a damn? you are a soldier aren't you?
Don't they beat guys who talk about this crap upside their head in your army?
Aliens are a recreational hobby. if people want to read about the possibilities of intelligence life out there, by all means. as long as they don't produce revisionistic historical and archaeological accounts, or revisionistic accounts of the modern political world and technology, in which case the academics wouldn't be bothered that much I suppose.
but once our 'science' channels have become polluted with this human drama which is 100% unscientific and mocks the work of hard working scientists, this is a holy war as far as I am concerned. scientists around the world alienate those people who try to twist scientific information because of wishful thinking and unprofessionalism.
if people are interested in the night sky. take a telescope, go camping, take a basic star map and educate yourself over the basics, pick up a book about Mars, because it is the next big thing.
the only aliens I've seen lately are in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. therefore its more constructive to deal with good business opportunities when it comes to astronomy, or just hard basic information, the kind that is without emotional baggage inspired by holywood films and caucasian vintage Sci Fi writers.
Now Spielberg, understanding the business opportunity from the gullibility of people, and the wishful thinking that motivates them, has done very well for himself. that's actually a productive way to deal with the alien drama.

Yes life may exist in the universe. in most cases, they would not be intelligent life. yes intelligent life may exist in the universe, somewhere.. out there. and when I say out there, think space. space is ridiculously huge, mind boggling huge.
let me focus on taking the time to know the wife better, before I shake the hand of a green man and start negotiating with him business.

 

[lunakilo]

Yes life may exist in the universe.

Like on Earth maybe :sarcastic

 

[Caladan]

Like on Earth maybe :sarcastic

Thank you for that observation lunakilo.

 

[Archer]

I don't think we will ever see Aliens on earth. Perhaps some day in the very distant future out in space some where we may meet some but I don't think they will beam down and see us because they cant get here and the fact that the odds of finding our rock out of the uncountable trillions is mathematical not rational.

I'm saying, who gives a damn? you are a soldier aren't you?
Don't they beat guys who talk about this crap upside their head in your army?
Aliens are a recreational hobby. if people want to read about the possibilities of intelligence life out there, by all means. as long as they don't produce revisionistic historical and archaeological accounts, or revisionistic accounts of the modern political world and technology, in which case the academics wouldn't be bothered that much I suppose.
but once our 'science' channels have become polluted with this human drama which is 100% unscientific and mocks the work of hard working scientists, this is a holy war as far as I am concerned. scientists around the world alienate those people who try to twist scientific information because of wishful thinking and unprofessionalism.
if people are interested in the night sky. take a telescope, go camping, take a basic star map and educate yourself over the basics, pick up a book about Mars, because it is the next big thing.
the only aliens I've seen lately are in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. therefore its more constructive to deal with good business opportunities when it comes to astronomy, or just hard basic information, the kind that is without emotional baggage inspired by holywood films and caucasian vintage Sci Fi writers.
Now Spielberg, understanding the business opportunity from the gullibility of people, and the wishful thinking that motivates them, has done very well for himself. that's actually a productive way to deal with the alien drama.

Yes life may exist in the universe. in most cases, they would not be intelligent life. yes intelligent life may exist in the universe, somewhere.. out there. and when I say out there, think space. space is ridiculously huge, mind boggling huge.
let me focus on taking the time to know the wife better, before I shake the hand of a green man and start negotiating with him business.

I agree. I honestly think just doing the math and realizing that we humans (scientifically) are an outlier. Sure there is a good possibility that intelligent life exists out there but I seriously doubt they will ever visit us unless it is some accident.

 

[outhouse]

'science' channels have become polluted with this human drama which is 100% unscientific and mocks the work of hard working scientists, this is a holy war as far as I am concerned. scientists around the world alienate those people who try to twist scientific information because of wishful thinking and unprofessionalism.

makes me sick, it so blatantly stupid. Its beyond comprehension there pulling this crap. bs sells I guess

Yes life may exist in the universe. in most cases, they would not be intelligent life.

I dont know you, but,,,, I would say your in no way shape or form, capable of backing that statement with anything more the imagination.



We are a primitive culture and very animal like, it would only take a species like us givin a extra millions years and we could be passed up standing still.

At 200,000 years we are short lived compared to many species.

ive said this before to you, the drake equation says there is life out there. Who are we to deny math against a universe so large

 

[Penumbra]

How do you think religions (and I'm not just talking about Judaism, Islam and Christianity, but also Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism, and Neopaganism among others) will fare if aliens landed on earth tomorrow?

Do you think they will see the aliens as angels or devils? Or people who need converting? Will it damage some, or all religions?

How do you think they would fare if the aliens were incredibly religious beings, with their own religious scriptures and prayers and so on, as opposed to incredibly scientific and hateful of religion?

With the vast number of different religions, there would be a vastly different array of reactions.

Pretty much everyone would be amazed, even people who think it's likely that intelligent life exists somewhere out there, because it would just be so new.

The secular response would be varied as well. Decisions would have to be made concerning the intent of the aliens, like are they a threat? Is this like the movie Independence Day, and do we need to pull out the nukes and pretend we have a chance?

In religious terms, it would probably be like Sagan's Contact. Some people who adhere strongly to a particular organized exclusive religion might feel threatened by it and talk about devils or whatever. I assume others, like Tenzin Gyatso, would probably just think it's neat. New Agers might have all sorts of mystical theories and such. It would be varied.

 

[outhouse]

With the vast number of different religions, there would be a vastly different array of reactions.

Pretty much everyone would be amazed, even people who think it's likely that intelligent life exists somewhere out there, because it would just be so new.

The secular response would be varied as well. Decisions would have to be made concerning the intent of the aliens, like are they a threat? Is this like the movie Independence Day, and do we need to pull out the nukes and pretend we have a chance?

In religious terms, it would probably be like Sagan's Contact. Some people who adhere strongly to a particular organized exclusive religion might feel threatened by it and talk about devils or whatever. I assume others, like Tenzin Gyatso, would probably just think it's neat. New Agers might have all sorts of mystical theories and such. It would be varied.

IF big "if" they wanted to make contact and could communicate with us.

I think they would set the tone right off the bat, we would have little choice in the matter.

who knows allot of imagination at this point, maybe theres law's regarding contact and a civilization has to be advanced enough to even be contacted. [more imagination on my part ]

 

[Archer]

who knows allot of imagination at this point, maybe theres law's regarding contact and a civilization has to be advanced enough to even be contacted. [more imagination on my part ]

Star trek first contact rule?

 

[Engyo]

Star trek first contact rule?

See post #40.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

How do you think religions (and I'm not just talking about Judaism, Islam and Christianity, but also Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism, and Neopaganism among others) will fare if aliens landed on earth tomorrow?

Do you think they will see the aliens as angels or devils? Or people who need converting? Will it damage some, or all religions?

How do you think they would fare if the aliens were incredibly religious beings, with their own religious scriptures and prayers and so on, as opposed to incredibly scientific and hateful of religion?

Well if they landed I'd treat them as a fellow living being of course, but I doubt many of my fellow humans would share my sentiments.

 

[Archer]

See post #40.

Oh I saw that. I was just looking Outhouses post:

IF big "if" they wanted to make contact and could communicate with us.

I think they would set the tone right off the bat, we would have little choice in the matter.

who knows allot of imagination at this point, maybe theres law's regarding contact and a civilization has to be advanced enough to even be contacted. [more imagination on my part ]

Perhaps there are but as I have said in previous posts I doubt our species will ever encounter another sentient species.

I think it was Hawking that speculated that the only possible contact would come from a space born species due to the vastness of space. I can some what agree but I still think that it will never, ever happen.

I have heard that we are broadcasting a signal (normal radio waves but crackpots see it as an invite) inviting aliens to an all you can eat human buffet but I doubt the signals, any radio signals, have been received, again due to the vastness of space. I just think that sentient life is a very rare thing in this universe. Sure when you look at the vastness of things billions could be considered rare and the distances would make that rarity seem an impossibility. For all intents and purposes people we are alone.

 

[Penumbra]

IF big "if" they wanted to make contact and could communicate with us.

I think they would set the tone right off the bat, we would have little choice in the matter.

who knows allot of imagination at this point, maybe theres law's regarding contact and a civilization has to be advanced enough to even be contacted. [more imagination on my part ]

It would likely depend on what sort of aliens they are. To contact us they would have to be technologically advanced, but they may or may not have an amount of wisdom to match their technology.

So on one hand, it could be like all the times on Earth when more technologically advanced and knowledgeable humans made contact with less advanced humans: the less technologically advanced culture gets partially wiped out and assimilated.

On the other hand, if the aliens were a bit more chill about it, they might approach earth like a professional wildlife photographer approaches wildlife: observe for the sake of knowledge and understanding, but be essentially invisible and don't disturb anything.

 

[outhouse]

I have heard that we are broadcasting a signal (normal radio waves but crackpots see it as an invite) inviting aliens to an all you can eat human buffet but I doubt the signals, any radio signals, have been received, again due to the vastness of space. I just think that sentient life is a very rare thing in this universe. Sure when you look at the vastness of things billions could be considered rare and the distances would make that rarity seem an impossibility. For all intents and purposes people we are alone.

as it stands were only 70 light years away from earth. At the snails pace its traveling you dont have to worry about a invite. Its not even a blimp on the radar

 

[outhouse]

On the other hand, if the aliens were a bit more chill about it, they might approach earth like a professional wildlife photographer approaches wildlife: observe for the sake of knowledge and understanding, but be essentially invisible and don't disturb anything.

if aliens exist and have visited, this is the state were are in. [if not just drones]

It would likely depend on what sort of aliens they are. To contact us they would have to be technologically advanced, but they may or may not have an amount of wisdom to match their technology.

i dont find this can be true in any sense.

for someone to visit, not drones. One would have to pretty much master space and time to a level that would flat dictate high intellegence.

remember, we still are very primitive

 

[Archer]

remember, we still are very primitive

What if we are not? Sure we have all of these theories that wow and amaze us but just, for the sake of argument, assume that there is absolutely no way to move safely through space any faster than 1/4 the speed of light. Also assume that all of the tech now being worked on gets finished and we find that the wall of physics prevents any further advancement. So let us say we are 150 years from maximum advancement.

In 150 years do you think we will be much better than we are without the discovery of some new boundaries in physics?

 

[strikeviperMKII]

Do you think religion will just fall apart? I lol'd at that thought.

Anyway, really, if(when) we find alien life, I would be very surprised if they don't have religion in some way or another if they're anything like us. If they're not like us, I believe they'd have whatever their equivalent to religion is.
Of course, we can't really know what alien life would be like, so its nigh impossible to predict what an equivalent form of religion would be.

 

[outhouse]

What if we are not? Sure we have all of these theories that wow and amaze us but just, for the sake of argument, assume that there is absolutely no way to move safely through space any faster than 1/4 the speed of light. Also assume that all of the tech now being worked on gets finished and we find that the wall of physics prevents any further advancement. So let us say we are 150 years from maximum advancement.

In 150 years do you think we will be much better than we are without the discovery of some new boundaries in physics?

i understand what your thinking, its hypothetically giving up.

you need to understand a few things about progress and what we know and how time can shape this.

first look at the drake equation and understand it

then understand at a mere 200,000 years we are very young for a hominid species, givin the same time as say homo erectus at a million years that is a 800,000 year advancement period we could be looking at.

if we live another 5 million years imagine how advanced we will be then, or imagine what we could evolve too.

if there was a race of beings that lived in space, and could do this for millions of years, imagine how well suited for space and intellegent they would be.

there are no odds that we are the smartest game in town, it is mathmatically impossible.

 

[outhouse]

Do you think religion will just fall apart?

yes it will

Anyway, really, if(when) we find alien life

you dont understand, they will find us> NOT we will find them.

When or if they made contact, we will get answers to our unknow questions. [as long as were not on the menu]

If they have mastered space and time, we might just get a peak in the past that would settle everyones imagination once and for all.

so its nigh impossible to predict what an equivalent form of religion would be

actually its not that hard, the more educated someone is the less influence god myth type figures play a role in said persons life. the more primitive and uneducated the more religion takes over ones whole way of life. This is fact from remote tribe's to the worlds most brilliant minds.

right now for homo sapiens religion is only imagination and questions for what we do not know about death and a guide for living a better life for those that need a guide.

in my opinion