Evolution - a very bad joke...

[Gauss]

Just some initial brief web links to discuss as a background to the most coverred up and flawed theory in modern society.....


Giants in Those Days--Historical News Articles Featuring Ancient Giants ---Page 19

Zhengjian Book Series: <i>Removing the Veil from Prehistoric Civilizations</i>, Part 6 -- Enduring Myths: Relics in the Ocean | Pureinsight

There Were Giants in Those Days: Giant Humans, Dinosaurs and Ancient Civilizations of Spain........Page 28

Steve Quayle News Alerts: Ancient Civilizations and Technology

Morien Institute - the mysterious underwater pyramid structure at Yonaguni



How could people build underwater cities carved out of stone 10s of thousands of years ago... How could big newspapers report giant skeletons 100 years back?

How can there be big human footprints dating back millions of years in cliffs?

How can there be human figures with a telescopesin rocks that were engraved 30 000 years ago?


Etc etc..... The evidence of prehistoric civilizations are just massive and they were way more tech advanced than our civilization...

 

[McBell]

opcorn:

 

[Revoltingest]

Evolution is a bad joke? Hah! Piffle! Pish posh & balderdash!
There is much humor in evolution.
Watch & learn.....

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YouTube - The Simpsons - Homer Evolution

 

[McBell]

The evidence of prehistoric civilizations are just massive and they were way more tech advanced than our civilization...

Really?
What happened to them?

 

[bobhikes]

I wouldn't say a very bad joke but the best story we have to date for how things came to be like all stories it has flaws.

Ask an evolutionist what will be the next thing to evolve?
Ask an evolutionist to explain Big breasted humans.
Ask an evolutionist at what point did we become able to diviate from evolution as in (Dogs, Cats, and Horse's) for example. And why don't other animals have the same ablilty. Did apes selectivily breed anything.
Ask an evolutionist about cross species breeding. It doesn't count and only happens rarely in nature and the results are mostly sterile anyway.
Ask an evolutionist if they all agree why the (pick you thing) evolved do they all agree it happened the same way.

Its not a joke but an overly exaggerated story about how things came to be.

 

[Revoltingest]

Ask an evolutionist what will be the next thing to evolve?
- There is no single "next thing".
- It would be an interesting field of study to look at ongoing environmental changes & try to model evolutionary responses. I smell a PhD thesis topic in that.
Ask an evolutionist to explain Big breasted humans.
- Such women are popular with menfolk.
Ask an evolutionist at what point did we become able to diviate from evolution as in (Dogs, Cats, and Horse's) for example.
- 62,367 years, 4 months, & 2 days ago.
And why don't other animals have the same ablilty. Did apes selectivily breed anything.
- Apes don't use domesticated critters, so they had no interest in animal husbandry.
Ask an evolutionist about cross species breeding. It doesn't count and only happens rarely in nature and the results are mostly sterile anyway.
- Beneficial mutations are a small percentage of all mutations. That's why a long time frame is necessary for evolution to work.
- That's why it's quite rational for young earth types to prefer magical explanations.
Ask an evolutionist if they all agree why the (pick you thing) evolved do they all agree it happened the same way.
- They all agree? I sure see a whole lotta arguing & controversy.
Its not a joke but an overly exaggerated story about how things came to be.
- Where is the exaggeration?

 

[nrg]

I wouldn't say a very bad joke but the best story we have to date for how things came to be like all stories it has flaws.

It only needs to be the best one. Knowledge about the physical world is built upon tentative discoveries, and those have finite justifications behind them, so you cannot form perfect explanations about the world. You can only find explanations that have more evidence than every other and that are falsifiable, but never have been.

Ask an evolutionist what will be the next thing to evolve?

That's absolutely impossible to know, because evolution is a chaotic system. That means that it's non-random, but unpredictable. Meteorologists can't say what the weather will be in a year from now, because small changes will accumulate into bigger changes. It's often summarized as this: the wings of a butterfly can start a hurricane on the far side of the world. Just because you cannot predict what will happen on the stock market, that doesn't mean that the rules of supply and demand are bogus.

Ask an evolutionist to explain Big breasted humans.

What about them?

Ask an evolutionist at what point did we become able to diviate from evolution as in (Dogs, Cats, and Horse's) for example. And why don't other animals have the same ablilty. Did apes selectivily breed anything.

What do you mean? We're still evolving, that's why Europeans have a better immune system against the bubonic plague than Han chinese. Or do you mean when our last common ancestor with chimpanzees lived?

Ask an evolutionist about cross species breeding. It doesn't count and only happens rarely in nature and the results are mostly sterile anyway.

Yes, what's the problem? The majority of mating occurs between members of the same species.

Ask an evolutionist if they all agree why the (pick you thing) evolved do they all agree it happened the same way.

I fail to see how this is relevant. Some things are more obvious than others, that's not unique to biology. Do you think astronomy, geology, psychology, physics and mathematics is without debate?

 

[sandandfoam]

Have "You ever noticed how people who believe in Creationism look really unevolved? ... Eyes real close together, eyebrow ridges, big furry hands and feet. "I believe God created me in one day" Yeah, looks like He rushed it.&#8221; - Bill Hicks

 

[Gauss]

- Where is the exaggeration?

If you put 10 outstanding material evidences from different technologically advanced prehistoric civilizations in front of an atheist he will say it is just "superstition and religious propaganda" and "evolution" did it all....

How can a man come from an ape when there have been a multitude of advanced civilizations that were wiped out throughout the ages? A new civilization is started, Gods help them and off they go. When they become too bad with massive black karma they are wiped out. This is just an eternal cycle and the body is a shell to create the illusion.


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YouTube - New Giant Skulls Found!


It is very hard to be an atheist, I confess that I empathize with all of you no matter which beliefs you hold.

 

[bobhikes]

Ask an evolutionist what will be the next thing to evolve?
- There is no single "next thing".
- It would be an interesting field of study to look at ongoing environmental changes & try to model evolutionary responses. I smell a PhD thesis topic in that.
Ask an evolutionist to explain Big breasted humans.
- Such women are popular with menfolk.
Ask an evolutionist at what point did we become able to diviate from evolution as in (Dogs, Cats, and Horse's) for example.
- 62,367 years, 4 months, & 2 days ago.
And why don't other animals have the same ablilty. Did apes selectivily breed anything.
- Apes don't use domesticated critters, so they had no interest in animal husbandry.
Ask an evolutionist about cross species breeding. It doesn't count and only happens rarely in nature and the results are mostly sterile anyway.
- Beneficial mutations are a small percentage of all mutations. That's why a long time frame is necessary for evolution to work.
Ask an evolutionist if they all agree why the (pick you thing) evolved do they all agree it happened the same way.
- They all agree? I sure see a whole lotta arguing & controversy.
Its not a joke but an overly exaggerated story about how things came to be.
- Where is the exaggeration?

Big breasted humans, evolution requires a natural reason that is benefitial to the species to be correct. Women with large breasts are less likely to be able to escape, have more back issues and develope cancer more often. Not really benefitial. Sexual preferance of the male would have to be explained evolutionary as well. They has to be a reason in evolution to make the male choose big breasts. There is disagreement among evolutionists on the accurate reason for all this.

Selective Breeding

Ants use aphids for for they take care of them like we do cows. Ants did not have any influence on the evolution of aphids it is all natural because ants have not real intelligence.

Apes use plants and we were able to evolve plants to be benefitial to our uses. Apes did not do the same thing.


Cross Breeding

A few years ago it was cross breeding didn't happen in nature it was a human thing. Now because several animals have been found in nature it is only a small percentage. What is the age of the earth 1 a year how many animals is that.

Scientific agreement

Why does the playtpus lay eggs. How many scientific reasons using evolution can you find. There is not 1 100 percent scientific concensus on why anything evolved the way it did. There is not even 100 percent scientific concensus that everything evolved

 

[Revoltingest]

Big breasted humans, evolution requires a natural reason that is benefitial to the species to be correct. Women with large breasts are less likely to be able to escape, have more back issues and develope cancer more often. Not really benefitial. Sexual preferance of the male would have to be explained evolutionary as well. They has to be a reason in evolution to make the male choose big breasts. There is disagreement among evolutionists on the accurate reason for all this.

Disagreement is good...it's what allows thought to advance. I'd put money on big hooters being attractive because of fitness.
Tis analogous to grandiose horns & brilliant plumage.

Selective Breeding
Ants use aphids for for they take care of them like we do cows. Ants did not have any influence on the evolution of aphids it is all natural because ants have not real intelligence.

Looks like co-evolution could be at work here.

Scientific consensus can be a bad thing if complacency is the result.
It's useful to have people exploring alternatives.

Scientific agreement

Why does the playtpus lay eggs. How many scientific reasons using evolution can you find. There is not 1 100 percent scientific concensus on why anything evolved the way it did. There is not even 100 percent scientific concensus that everything evolved

As with any critter, the platypus is what it is as the result of many factors & circumstances: geographical isolation, relationships between
previously existing critters, changing environment. It could be complex enuf that asking for "reasons" is inapplicable. Perhaps our best
possible understanding of why they are what they are is to understand the various mechanisms in play.

 

[Noaidi]

Have "You ever noticed how people who believe in Creationism look really unevolved? ... Eyes real close together, eyebrow ridges, big furry hands and feet. "I believe God created me in one day" Yeah, looks like He rushed it.” - Bill Hicks

:clap:biglaugh:

 

[bobhikes]

Disagreement is good...it's what allows thought to advance. I'd put money on big hooters being attractive because of fitness.
Tis analogous to grandiose horns & brilliant plumage.

Looks like coevolution could be at work here.

Scientific consensus can be a bad thing if complacency is the result.
It's useful to have people exploring alternatives.

Stories are always creative and interpeted many different ways and thats what makes them interesting. I'll agree.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Ask an evolutionist to explain Big breasted humans.

Mankind evolved enough brainpower and opposable thumbs in order to do breast augmentation surgery.

 

[bobhikes]

My biggest gripe against evolution is pretty much the same as all my gripes against science.

We believe that we are so smart. We can influence evolution. No other creatures have the abilities that we have. They never were or are smart enough to influence evolutionary changes. If it happened with other creatures or plants it must of been natural and because of evolution not intelligence for they don't have the required intelligence.

We as a evolutional product have been given much to big an ego.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

My biggest gripe against evolution is pretty much the same as all my gripes against science.

We believe that we are so smart. We can influence evolution. No other creatures have the abilities that we have. They never were or are smart enough to influence evolutionary changes. If it happened with other creatures or plants it must of been natural and because of evolution not intelligence for they don't have the required intelligence.

We as a evolutional product have been given much to big an ego.

Going to ignore the evolutionary influences we've had in animal husbandry, plant breeding, gene splicing etc.?

 

[Gauss]

My biggest gripe against evolution is pretty much the same as all my gripes against science.

We believe that we are so smart. We can influence evolution. No other creatures have the abilities that we have. They never were or are smart enough to influence evolutionary changes. If it happened with other creatures or plants it must of been natural and because of evolution not intelligence for they don't have the required intelligence.

We as a evolutional product have been given much to big an ego.

As I see it the human being is given intelligence and a choice to do good or to do bad. If he chooses to do bad he will be destroyed, if he chooses to do good he can become an immortal trough cultivation of body and mind.

He has the chance to judge himself a God while alive, if he goes in that direction the score is settled right after death of his body shell. His amots won´t die at all, his electrons will not die. Anyone heard of an oven who could split atoms when they burn the corpse?....

Every time the human race becomes bad it is wiped out and a few good people survive and start a new civilization. A God built by atoms instead of cells can cruise in and out of your brain and do whatever he likes to do with you and your thoughts. That is why man is the weakest while believing he is the strongest...

Why is religion always warning people? Because they know what faces mankind once it passes a certain limit of moral and ethics...

 

[bobhikes]

Going to ignore the evolutionary influences we've had in animal husbandry, plant breeding, gene splicing etc.?

I believe in evolution to a point it and has help us greatly; however, it has issues and these issues points to flaws in it. It also once discovered gave us a way to think about how things happened. It does not predict what will happen and requires artificial evolution to create new things. Animal husandry, plant breeding, gene splicing is not natural evolution which begs the question does natural evolution even exist today.

See this is the problem with evolution. An evolutionist will tell you the German Shepard is not naturally evolved but selectivly breed. Why because it causes problems for evolution if the German Shepard was naturally evolved. So they are saying that what we do is not natural. We are somehow outside of nature and we are effecting the way nature would create things. This is very much what god is and I am atheist so it is a major problem. Writing evolution so that it includes us causes all kinds of headaches so it was eaiser to just say we influence natural selection.

As I said we have an inflated ego. We are somehow able to seperate ourselves from nature and influence said nature to our own devises.

 

[bobhikes]

Killer whales somewhere(to lazy to look up) have developed a unique technique to kill great white sharks. Now if 200 years in the future, if the sharks in this area develop a gene that allows them to defeat this technique is this Natural selection or Artificial selection.

 

[outhouse]

How could people build underwater cities carved out of stone 10s of thousands of years ago...

they didnt, that it natural geologic formations, end of story

How could big newspapers report giant skeletons 100 years back?

They didnt find skeletons that tall dont be rediculous.

I have held skulls like that in my hand, that is from binding the heads when the children were babies. They are not giants. incans did this all the time

How can there be big human footprints dating back millions of years in cliffs?

There not going back past 3-4 million of years, now homo erectus lived 2 million years ago and before him the homo line goes back 3 million years with modern foot imprints. BUT NOT with dinosaurs. There has never been a human track with a dinosaur.

How can there be human figures with a telescopesin rocks that were engraved 30 000 years ago?

its not a telescope but probably a dart gun LOL if the guy is looking hes probably looking through a hollow tube.

The evidence of prehistoric civilizations are just massive and they were way more tech advanced than our civilization...

NO no no no no, They were not more advanced, we have a clear picture of homo sapiens progress.


THIS IS PROOF Creationist!! believe anything due to their lack of education and ignornace in history and science.

sir you havent posted one thing that changes a hair on evolutions head lol