Anti Israel Lies

[Pax]

SIMON WIESENTHAL CENTER: 2010 TOP TEN ANTI-ISRAEL LIES

Israel is under assault!
Here’s what you need to know.

LIE #1
Israel was created by European guilt over the Nazi Holocaust. Why should Palestinians pay the price?


LIE #2
Had Israel withdrawn to its June 1967 borders, peace would have come long ago

LIE #3
Israel is the main stumbling block to achieving a Two-State solution.

LIE#4
Nuclear Israel not Iran is the greatest threat to peace and stability.

LIE #5
Israel is an Apartheid State deserving of International Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions campaigns.

LIE #6
Plans to build 1,600 more homes in East Jerusalem prove Israel is ‘Judaizing’ the Holy City.

LIE #7
Israeli policies endanger U.S. troops in Afghanistan and Iraq.

LIE #8
Israeli policies are the cause of worldwide anti-Semitism.

LIE #9
Israel, not Hamas, is responsible for the “humanitarian catastrophe” in Gaza. Goldstone was right when he charged that Israel was guilty of war crimes against civilians.

LIE #10
The only hope for peace is a single, bi-national state, eliminating the Jewish State of Israel.

Go to: 2010 Top Ten Anti-Israel Lies | Simon Wiesenthal Center to see the refutations to these insidious, deceitful, and seditious lies against the Jewish people and the State of Israel.

 

[xkatz]

I would say #8 and #9 are not necessarily lies, but somewhere in between of what most people think.

 

[Sunstone]

Some of those "lies" look a whole lot like matters of opinion. Also, the OP seems to conflate opposing some of the policies of the Israeli Government with being anti-Jewish. For an OP that claims to be against lying, that is a very suspicious position to take.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Pax have you ever met any Jews who aren't Zionists? Well now you have met one (me).

 

[Rainbow Mage]

The state of Israel shouldn't exist.

 

[DeitySlayer]

I'm sorry, but phosphorus bombing civilian areas is not exactly a great way to portray your country as all great and diplomatic.

 

[Caladan]

I'm sorry, but phosphorus bombing civilian areas is not exactly a great way to portray your country as all great and diplomatic. Israel is not the only screwup in the Middle East, but to a greater or lesser degree, a screwup it is.

Maybe so. then again sending troops to Iraq and Afghanistan certainly didn't create diplomatic stability either. unlike other nations, Israel has yet to send its troops thousands of miles away from home other than on relief missions.

 

[xkatz]

Don't forget that wall that was built to wall off Palestine (the West Bank) from Israel and, to an extent, the outside world.

 

[Aquitaine]

Maybe so. then again sending troops to Iraq and Afghanistan certainly didn't create diplomatic stability either. unlike other nations, Israel has yet to send its troops thousands of miles away from home other than on relief missions.

That's true......

 

[xkatz]

Maybe so. then again sending troops to Iraq and Afghanistan certainly didn't create diplomatic stability either. unlike other nations, Israel has yet to send its troops thousands of miles away from home other than on relief missions.

What about Operation Entebbe? I mean, yes it was justified, but Israel did send troops/military personnel and they did fight the Ugandan forces.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

I agree with Deity Slayer, and furthermore, Israel has still done attrocious crimes against the Palestinians.

 

[Caladan]

That's true......

Well I'm always puzzled at Britons or Americans thinking that Israel-bashing is the new sexy thing to do, while their nations have been sending troops half way across the world on military adventures. usually I don't go and lecture Americans and Britons about the problems their nations create around the world, I'm afraid I've come to the point of not expecting the same courtesy. one thing is for sure, I would not call their nations a 'screw-up'.

 

[Caladan]

What about Operation Entebbe? I mean, yes it was justified, but Israel did send their army and they did fight the Ugandan forces.

Surly you jest. you are comparing a rescue operation of hostages and a military operation with a precise objective, to occupation with a giant deathtoll?

 

[Aquitaine]

I agree with Deity Slayer, and furthermore, Israel has still done attrocious crimes against the Palestinians.

Yeah bombing civilians is unjustified, but let's be honest here, virtually every country in existence has commited atrocities against other people. Israel is not a special country and isn't exempt from criticism, at the same time though sometimes I do think Israel gets singled-out and constantly portrayed as some bad guy.

You're American right? Well then both of our countries have had their fair share of violence against others.

 

[DeitySlayer]

Maybe so. then again sending troops to Iraq and Afghanistan certainly didn't create diplomatic stability either. unlike other nations, Israel has yet to send its troops thousands of miles away from home other than on relief missions.

I'm not defending those actions. Especially those in Iraq, which were firstly illegal, and secondly, utterly stupid in not having a good follow-up plan other than sticking a moronic banner saying 'WE WON!' over Baghdad and then thinking all the Iraqis would suddenly build Wal-Marts and MacDonalds and convert to a secular society.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Paul Rusco I'm also a secular Jew, with Jewish parents, and I think Israel is very un-Jewish. You don't understand what Zionism is doing to the Jewish image.

 

[DeitySlayer]

Yeah bombing civilians is unjustified, but let's be honest here, virtually every country in existence has commited atrocities against other people. Israel is not a special country and isn't exempt from criticism, at the same time though sometimes I do think Israel gets singled-out and constantly portrayed as some bad guy.

You're American right? Well then both of our countries have had their fair share of violence against others.

This is the modern era. Israel wants to be seen as a modern country. It says it is a modern country. Modern countries don't drop phosphorus bombs on civilian areas. Modern countries don't use weapons expressedly banned under the Geneva Convention. And then deny it.

 

[Caladan]

I'm not defending those actions. Especially those in Iraq, which were firstly illegal, and secondly, utterly stupid in not having a good follow-up plan other than sticking a moronic banner saying 'WE WON!' over Baghdad and then thinking all the Iraqis would suddenly build Wal-Marts and MacDonalds and convert to a secular society.

Good, then you keep eye on the policies of your own government and I'll do the same with mine. and have the maturity of not labeling other nations as a 'screw-up', it doesnt build integrity on an internet forum.

 

[Aquitaine]

Well I'm always puzzled at Britons or Americans thinking that Israel-bashing is the new sexy thing to do, while their nations have been sending troops half way across the world on military adventures. usually I don't go and lecture Americans and Britons about the problems their nations create around the world, I'm afraid I've come to the point of not expecting the same courtesy. one thing is for sure, I would not call their nations a 'screw-up'.

Yeah I agree, calling Israel a "screw up" was a bit over-the-top in my opinion. And yeah, I can see how it would be seen as rather hypocritical to see Brits/Yanks bashing Israel for attacks on Civilians, when we're currently fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan - and not to mention our history.
The Phosperous bombings of Civilians that Deity mentioned could be countered with the DU ammunition that (IIRC) only Britain and the US use.

 

[Revoltingest]

- Israel was created by European guilt over the Nazi Holocaust. Why should Palestinians pay the price?
- Had Israel withdrawn to its June 1967 borders, peace would have come long ago
- Israel is the main stumbling block to achieving a Two-State solution.
- Nuclear Israel not Iran is the greatest threat to peace and stability.
- Israel is an Apartheid State deserving of International Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions campaigns.
- Plans to build 1,600 more homes in East Jerusalem prove Israel is ‘Judaizing’ the Holy City.
- Israeli policies endanger U.S. troops in Afghanistan and Iraq.
- Israeli policies are the cause of worldwide anti-Semitism.
- Israel, not Hamas, is responsible for the “humanitarian catastrophe” in Gaza. Goldstone was right when he charged that Israel was guilty of war crimes against civilians.
- The only hope for peace is a single, bi-national state, eliminating the Jewish State of Israel.

I see a whole lotta reasonable opinion in them there "lies".
Perhaps the only way to see the picture clearly is to not have a horse in that race.