OmarKhayyam
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Whatever the man meant - Christianity as currently practiced ain't it.
Whatever the man meant - Christianity as currently practiced ain't it.
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There are some, but I don't think we are all called to give up everything and become street preachers. That would be kind of silly, wouldn't it? But, we are called to give a lot more than most of us do.
The rich young man went to Jesus looking for the simple answer, "What are the rules? What are ABC and D that I can do to be saved?" And, probably, he already felt pretty good about where he was, because he knew he was following the commandments. But Jesus threw him a curve ball. It's not about the rules, but about our whole life. You can't just check off a list of boxes and think you're done...but that is what we always ask for. Make it simple for me, make it so I can control it and know I'm OK.
Really, Jesus gave him the only answer we can give when people ask "what can I do to be saved?" Give up what distracts you, turn toward God, and follow Jesus. It's a way of life and it is about our relationships with God and each other. Choose every day to put God at the center of your life. Choose every day to help and love others. It's not checking off a list of boxes.
It's as challenging as any relationship we enter into that requires sacrifice, and it tends to be a bit 'messier' than following rules.
There are some, but I don't think we are all called to give up everything and become street preachers. That would be kind of silly, wouldn't it? But, we are called to give a lot more than most of us do.
The rich young man went to Jesus looking for the simple answer, "What are the rules? What are ABC and D that I can do to be saved?" And, probably, he already felt pretty good about where he was, because he knew he was following the commandments. But Jesus threw him a curve ball. It's not about the rules, but about our whole life. You can't just check off a list of boxes and think you're done...but that is what we always ask for. Make it simple for me, make it so I can control it and know I'm OK.
Really, Jesus gave him the only answer we can give when people ask "what can I do to be saved?" Give up what distracts you, turn toward God, and follow Jesus. It's a way of life and it is about our relationships with God and each other. Choose every day to put God at the center of your life. Choose every day to help and love others. It's not checking off a list of boxes.
It's as challenging as any relationship we enter into that requires sacrifice, and it tends to be a bit 'messier' than following rules.
BTW... I just realized I might not have been so clear.
I was speaking of the low/pitance wage labor in China and third world countries,
who produce the goods for Walmart and the like.
I didn't mean US Walmart workers. *doh*
What does Jesus say about who will dwell with him in heaven, and who will suffer eternal punishment?
Not everyone who saith unto me Lord, Lord shall enter in the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father in Heaven.
So, the Bible says we need to do the will of the Father to go to heaven.
Except a man be born of water and the Spirit he shall not see the kingdom heaven.
Jesus told the woman caught in adultery to go her way and sin no more. It was his will that she not commit adultery again. Therefore to do his will, we need to not commit adultery. Therefore to go to heaven, we need to not commit adultery. We must remember, that Jesus did not condemn the woman, but forgave her. Nevertheless, he told her to not do it again.
Jesus said "follow me". This is his will. We need to follow him and do as he did to enter the kingdom of heaven.
There are many passages that speak of God's will.
Does Jesus say you have to accept Him as your personal savior to get into heaven? (Please cite verses.)
Does Jesus say you have to accept Him as your personal savior to get into heaven? (Please cite verses.)
Am I allowed to use LDS scriptures to quote Jesus?
"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou has sent."
Jesus says here that eternal life is to know God and Jesus. So, we need to know the Father and the Son to go to heaven.
So where the heck do these bogus preachers come up with "Jesus wants you to be prosperous?" What do they base that on?
So that would be a no?
We're talking about what Jesus said about how to get to heaven. It isn't that hard to follow along. Do you have anything to say on that score?To know God and His Son is to know and accept them for who they are. But, I don't what game we are playing right now. Where are we going?
"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom thou has sent."
Jesus says here that eternal life is to know God and Jesus. So, we need to know the Father and the Son to go to heaven.
Where is this verse from? Who's talking here? Please cite. Thanks.
It's not hard for you to follow along, but I'm slow. Please don't make fun of me. I'll try to keep up with you.
BTW... I just realized I might not have been so clear.
I was speaking of the low/pitance wage labor in China and third world countries,
who produce the goods for Walmart and the like.
I didn't mean US Walmart workers. *doh*
Oh, sorry V.
That's why he posted the verses concerning the fruits and the vines. Jesus, throughout the gospels, makes it clear that he desires some sort of works. And that those works are necessary for salvation in concordance with believing.
It's in John 17 when Jesus is praying. I didn't want to look up the reference. It's a beautiful verse that I have in my head.