Caladan
Agnostic Pantheist
Whats so strange about a modern Jew citing an ancient Jew in order to make a fellow Jew ponder his hasty criticism of another Jew?Um, Dan.... Why are you citing Christ to a Jew?
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Whats so strange about a modern Jew citing an ancient Jew in order to make a fellow Jew ponder his hasty criticism of another Jew?Um, Dan.... Why are you citing Christ to a Jew?
OK, now I'm confused. Cladan's a Jew (unless I'm very much mistaken), I'm the Gentile.Gentiles rarely "get" Jewish attitudes toward Christianity. Christians tend to think of themselves and their religion in a postive light. For historic reasons, when a Jew hears, "the Christians are coming," we tend to think, "Hide!" For centuries, a group of Christians coming to visit was very likely to mean murder and arson. For this reason, we're a bit sensitive about Christianity itself, and ten to be negatively disposed toward it. As for Jesus, there is a natural temptation to see Him as nothing but an excuse to slaughter us, so we're not all that crazy about Him either. For that reason, He's not the first person we tend to quote or appreciate hearing quoted.
Interesting, but still not a definition of morals that can be universally applied. I stand by my statement that the term is subjective and has no definitive definition. It is based on religious, cultural and regional variables that change over time. A persons morals in the United States are different from a persons in India. Also, a persons morals in 2009 are different from a persons in 1809 even though they are in the same location. You could say the definition is fluid and everchanging and not be wrong.
...increasing the total quantity of love in the world is a good thing.
In English scriptures, since we're speaking English here:
Leviticus 18:22: A man may not lie with a man as with a woman.
That explicitly forbids homosexual relations, and goes on to speak of beastiality.
The Talmud speaks of lesbian relations as "licentious".
Rambam forbids it as a practice of Egypt.
That's enough for me to condemn it as forbidden among anyone born Jewish.
For the goyim, I really don't care what they do...
But for you calling yourself Jewish, I cite:
1 Kings 18:20, where Elijah demands Israel to choose: Idolatry or Jewish identity.
This thread is for yosi, who asked to discuss the morality of my lesbian way of life. I assert that my way of life is moral; he denies it. yosi:
Why do you think my way of life is immoral?
Your way of life is contrary to the moral and natural laws.
It is never justifiable. It is contrary to God's Holy Will for
you.
One of the perks of being an idolator of the Bible.How do you know what God's "Will" is for anyone?
Your way of life is contrary to the moral and natural laws.
It is never justifiable. It is contrary to God's Holy Will for
you.
And it can't possibly be contrary to natural laws if she's capable of doing it.
GOD is not a she, HE created but did not procreate nor give birth.
See, I take no issue with someone's urges, but I DO take issue on how those who claim Judaism(in any way, shape, or form) act on their urges, since each Jew is responsible for ALL Jews. One person's evil actions can cost thousands, if not millions of lives.