Depression an evil spirit ?

[notmuchtime]

Hello my name is matt im 28 my initial question is depression really a mental illness or is it a kind of evil spirit. i have been having problems with depression since around 11 and being addicted to every drug then going through rehab, back to sober to find myslef in the same place of anger fear and i regret my whol life. i really want to find some pple to talk to thats why i came here. At first i thought i was an alcoholic then an addict, but i truly feel neither the only reasons ive done those things was the pain and the regret of being worthless. i have a fiance and 2 kids and i feel i dont have the capacity to love anything. Im lost and i dont understand i have everything one can ask for, i pray to God I thank God and i ask Him for help and forgiveness. Yes lately that has dwindled but i have no interest anymore the last two yrs have been hard i decided if nothing happens by the time im 30 im out, im done. I know life isnt fair and i have been dealt some crappy hands. If anyone has advice or wants to talk please and i thank you .

 

[themadhair]

Hello my name is matt im 28 my initial question is depression really a mental illness or is it a kind of evil spirit.

Mental illness.

 

[Katzpur]

I suffer from depression and I am 100% positive that it is a mental illness.

 

[YmirGF]

I suffer from depression and I am 100% positive that it is a mental illness.

Agreed, hopefully FFH won't see this thread. :yes:

 

[notmuchtime]

how do you guys fight it, most of the time i dont want to be here. Unlike my father i dont have the courage to kill myself. Not that i want to die as much as i want to be happy.

 

[Azakel]

how do you guys fight it, most of the time i dont want to be here. Unlike my father i dont have the courage to kill myself. Not that i want to die as much as i want to be happy.

It takes Courage to live, not to kill yourself. A good way to find it friend would to go to a Doctor and talk to them, and go to a psychiatrist and talk to them. Medication can also help.
I hope you all the best in this fight.

 

[zenzero]

Friend notmuchtime,
Welcome to RF!
Only suggestion is that just be conscious of what you do.
By being conscious of your own acts, it will lead you to the conscious direction which is the natural direction.
Best Wishes.
Love & rgds

 

[notmuchtime]

I went to a psychiatrist for a couple months, He told me i was F...ed Up that ended up being my last visit. Its like no one really cares they just want to get you doped up on meds so i feel like a zombie...and if im a space cadet how would i know if anything is wrong. I try reading the Bible to help but its so dang confusing, Besides i Heard somewhere that with God you dont need anything else.. meds.

 

[Circle_One]

The first thing you need to do is stop blaming your problems on outside forces. Suck it up and take control of the things you've done and the things that have been done to you. You ARE depressed and it's not because you're possessed by an evil spirit. It's because you've got a mental illness, because that's the hand you've been dealt. You ARE an addict, and it's not because you're depressed, it's because that's what you decided to turn to rather than take control of your depression in the first place. That's the hand you've been dealt and that's what you've decided to do with that hand.

The first step to any sort of recovery is admitting there's a problem in the first place and taking CONTROL of that problem. Stop blaming other people, stop blaming outside forces and own up to them. You need to be in control of your problems before you can be in control of your life.

Everything takes time and everything must be done one step at a time. I'm a recovering addict and I spent years blaming everyone but myself, but in the end, it wasn't anyone else's fault, it was MY OWN and the only thing that set me on the path to recovery was finally claiming it as my own.

 

[gnomon]

I went to a psychiatrist for a couple months, He told me i was F...ed Up that ended up being my last visit. Its like no one really cares they just want to get you doped up on meds so i feel like a zombie...and if im a space cadet how would i know if anything is wrong. I try reading the Bible to help but its so dang confusing, Besides i Heard somewhere that with God you dont need anything else.. meds.

Go get help.

Put the Bible down. Go get help.

 

[3.14]

the bible does not cure mental illness
at most it will temporaraly relieve the symtoms

1 stop complaining, you have a fiance and children thats more then some can say
2 start spending money on selfimprovement (wichever way works for you)
3 talk about whats bothering you and lay in in perspective, you will see most of it ain't that bad
4 eat like half a bar of chocolate every week (chocolate activates certain parts of the brain linked to happyness)
5 life max 2 days in advance
6 see proffesional help
6 try this out for atleast 4 weeks before you dismiss it as worthless

 

[Katzpur]

1 stop complaining, you have a fiance and children thats more then some can say

Unless you have suffered from depression, you couldn't possibly know that this one suggestion is no good whatsoever. To a depressed person, what you have is immaterial. The depression does not stem from wanting something you don't have, and being grateful for what you do have does nothing to alleviate your pain. Depression exists independently of legitimate reasons. People who have not experienced it need to understand this.

 

[themadhair]

Getting help and talking about it is what helps.

 

[Charity]

The first thing to do is seek medical help and give your medication time to help you. Some medications causes you to feel like a zombie for a while, sometimes you need to try several different ones, but believe me when you find the right one it is worth it......No one can possibly understand this problem unless you have experienced it...........
Most depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in your body, so seek the help and hang in there until you get on the road to recovery.......

 

[Enlighten]

Put the Bible down.

Never thought I'd hear myself say or agree with these words but.. I agree - put the bible down and get help, there is medication available that can help you and there are also people and groups to talk to who wont treat you with disrespect by telling you you're f-d up.

I wish you well in dealing with your depression.

 

[Father Heathen]

the bible does not cure mental illness
at most it will temporaraly relieve the symtoms

Or at worst compound them.

 

[Sunstone]

Depression -- especially if it goes untreated and turns into psychosis -- can subjectively feel like an evil spirit. But it's a mental illness, not a spirit.

 

[TheKnight]

Hello my name is matt im 28 my initial question is depression really a mental illness or is it a kind of evil spirit. i have been having problems with depression since around 11 and being addicted to every drug then going through rehab, back to sober to find myslef in the same place of anger fear and i regret my whol life. i really want to find some pple to talk to thats why i came here. At first i thought i was an alcoholic then an addict, but i truly feel neither the only reasons ive done those things was the pain and the regret of being worthless. i have a fiance and 2 kids and i feel i dont have the capacity to love anything. Im lost and i dont understand i have everything one can ask for, i pray to God I thank God and i ask Him for help and forgiveness. Yes lately that has dwindled but i have no interest anymore the last two yrs have been hard i decided if nothing happens by the time im 30 im out, im done. I know life isnt fair and i have been dealt some crappy hands. If anyone has advice or wants to talk please and i thank you .

"Mental illness" is not accurate terminology. Why are we so keen on describing the unknown aspects of the mind as mental illnesses?

Depression, as is evidence by treatments that cure depression, is the result of a lack of purposeful understanding or deliberate focus in a person's life. In essence, it comes from a mindset in which a person does not value what they have in life for it's true value. It can also come from a sense of purposelessness.

It does not mean that you have chemical imbalances in the brain. Saying that depression is the direct result of chemical imbalance is almost as bad as saying it's the result of an evil spirit.

 

[Storm]

"Mental illness" is not accurate terminology. Why are we so keen on describing the unknown aspects of the mind as mental illnesses?

Depression, as is evidence by treatments that cure depression, is the result of a lack of purposeful understanding or deliberate focus in a person's life. In essence, it comes from a mindset in which a person does not value what they have in life for it's true value. It can also come from a sense of purposelessness.

It does not mean that you have chemical imbalances in the brain. Saying that depression is the direct result of chemical imbalance is almost as bad as saying it's the result of an evil spirit.

As someone who's struggled with clinical depression since the age of 8, bull****!

 

[TheKnight]

As someone who's struggled with clinical depression since the age of 8, bull****!

As someone who has been involved in the successful treatment of over 100 depressed souls, I can honestly say that you are in your conclusion that my statements above are incorrect. Depression stems from perspective on life. Change the perspective to a more fitting one, and depression is easy to combat.