Jews not a race

[painted wolf]

But to make such statements without bringing any proof of such statements is very questionable to say the least.

Forgive for assuming you would look into the matter yourself...

What sources do you have, that you can show, to substantiate such an accusation?

here is a start for you... there are plenty more but I'm sure you will look into the matter further on your own time.

L. Ray Smith | Apologetics Index
What About L. Ray Smith?
L. Ray Smith bible-truths.net -- another nut from the fruitcake, but not as nutty as some
L. Ray Smith - The Legalist Blasphemer!

wa:do

 

[AK4]

Forgive for assuming you would look into the matter yourself...


here is a start for you... there are plenty more but I'm sure you will look into the matter further on your own time.

L. Ray Smith | Apologetics Index
What About L. Ray Smith?
L. Ray Smith bible-truths.net -- another nut from the fruitcake, but not as nutty as some
L. Ray Smith - The Legalist Blasphemer!

wa:do

Seriously ,are these your rebuttals? The first three use no scriptural reference for rebuttal.

The first-- they use human argument to argue scripture. Now do i need to quote scripture for this?

The second----not ONE scripture-- should i go on?

The third--- really? come on? He quotes Ray but doesnt use scripture to discredit him.

Thr fourth---Wow. the "TRANSLATIONS" they try to use dont match up with ALL THE WORD OF GOD. Therefore there KJV translation must be inaccurate and biased.

Come on do i need to use this thread to defend L Ray Smith. I could and it aint a problem for me. These sites you tried to use against him, to be blunt, SUCK. I can discredit them myself and im just a "babe" in Christ.

You know what i will, and you will do this :foot::foot::foot: along with them that are so gullible to fall for such stupid doctrines.

Tomorrow though im sleepy now

 

[AK4]

Let me emphasize that again----AAAAALLLLLLL OOOOOFFFFF SCRIPTURE!!!!!!

And none of these links do this to discredit him

 

[Berachiah Ben Yisrael]

Forgive for assuming you would look into the matter yourself...


here is a start for you... there are plenty more but I'm sure you will look into the matter further on your own time.

L. Ray Smith | Apologetics Index
What About L. Ray Smith?
L. Ray Smith bible-truths.net -- another nut from the fruitcake, but not as nutty as some
L. Ray Smith - The Legalist Blasphemer!

wa:do

I have to agree with AK4 here. These links are shabby at best and really do nothing but give to slanderous accusations that have not been scripturally validated. Just a bunch of rants and raves. I do know from my so called christian acquaintances that some of them believe some of this and some don’t. There are over 22,000 different sects of christianity and one just can’t make a blanket statement that they all feel and believe in the same way. You may not agree with one while millions do and vice versa. Instead of making such an invalidated blanket accusation, as you did, you might have been better to have said that you yourself disagree with the individual and left it at that.

 

[painted wolf]

The first-- they use human argument to argue scripture. Now do i need to quote scripture for this?

Meh, I don't care about your book.

Smith does have a number of staunch defenders who, apparently, prefer his opinions over Biblical fact largely because they approve of his heretical beliefs. They tend to challenge Smith detractors with various challenges to prove that his teachings are incorrect. Doing so appears to be about as useful as throwing pearls to swines. There already is a large body of teachings available on the subjects L. Ray Smith rejects.

from the first link... how apropriate.

The second----not ONE scripture-- should i go on?

If you like... again I could care less about your book.

The third--- really? come on? He quotes Ray but doesnt use scripture to discredit him.

again, whoopie-fizz... he demonstrates that the man is a bit wonky... you don't need scripture to show that.

Thr fourth---Wow. the "TRANSLATIONS" they try to use dont match up with ALL THE WORD OF GOD. Therefore there KJV translation must be inaccurate and biased.

LOL.... you finally get scripture but you toss it aside because you don't like it.
How typical.
I mean you're talking about a book that isn't exactly great at being internally consistent here.

Anyway, you to continue to stroke each others egos... I personally am getting tired of this wank-fest.

wa:do

 

[lilithu]

Anyway, you two continue to stroke each others egos... I personally am getting tired of this wank-fest.

That was exactly what I was thinking but couldn't find the word. Thanks.

 

[AK4]

LOL.... you finally get scripture but you toss it aside because you don't like it.
How typical.
I mean you're talking about a book that isn't exactly great at being internally consistent here.

Anyway, you to continue to stroke each others egos... I personally am getting tired of this wank-fest.

wa:do

Actually i just grazed over those sites and really didnt get to the details, but anyway if you dont care about it why are you in this part of the forum? Hmmm. As for that last link, this bitter guy is trying to say LRS is like HWA, which is a total farce.

This guy wants to believe once you accept Jesus you become instantly saved or born again and there is nothing else required of you because you just believe and yet that is exactly opposite of the scriptures teach. He doesnt want to accept the fact that if you are being chastise by God to "be good" then obviously you must do something to stop being chastised. "Do something?" he would say--"this was all accomplished at the cross so all i have to do is believe and do whatever i want and i am still saved" "I can commit adultery by lusting after whatever woman i want and dont have to worry because although i keep sinning i am saved" He doesnt like the fact that Ray teaches that its a process of growing spiritually that you eventually may get to point you wont commit adultery by lusting after another woman. This guy is just another one of those christains who wants to throw out the OT and the words of Jesus like they dont matter.

Good since you are tired of this wank fest stop posting in this thread then. Its that simple

 

[Magic Man]

Can we rename this thread "An exercise in willful ignorance"? I think that fits a lot better.

 

[Berachiah Ben Yisrael]

Can we rename this thread "An exercise in willful ignorance"? I think that fits a lot better.

Since you have become a part of it, I totally agree. :woohoo: :biglaugh:

 

[painted wolf]

You know because you guys love to point out that the other side is all about "personal attacks".
Did you have a point or did you just want to seem clever?

wa:do

 

[Berachiah Ben Yisrael]

you realize that deleting this doesn't mean it goes away.


The mods can still see it.. and the previous one earlier in the thread.

wa:do

Why Should I worry? I have nothing to hide. Its how I truly feel about you. I wouldn't lie about that. Your the one that brought up "wank fest" not I girly grl.

 

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[Berachiah Ben Yisrael]

You know because you guys love to point out that the other side is all about "personal attacks".

Did you have a point or did you just want to seem clever?

wa:do

Why not? Whatevers clever!

 

[Berachiah Ben Yisrael]

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If this was truly upheld throughout the entire forum it would be soooooooooooooooooo great. People would feel free to voice their opinions and ideas without the threat of meaningless demeaning, belittling, slanderous personal attacks from those who enjoy life by trying to make others lives hurtful. Some of us fight back and get held in the same contempt as the original offender.

Thanks for least giving us a break from such in this thread at least. :clap

 

[AK4]

You know because you guys love to point out that the other side is all about "personal attacks".
Did you have a point or did you just want to seem clever?

wa:do

Did yall contribute to this thread about the "RACE" of the jews? Nope, instead you dropped in ethnic group and then after that personal attacks. So we responded back in like nature

 

[Magic Man]

Did yall contribute to this thread about the "RACE" of the jews?

Yup.

Nope, instead you dropped in ethnic group and then after that personal attacks.

Yes, we dropped in "ethnic group" to correct your mistake. No, we didn't start the personal attacks.

 

[AK4]

Yup.



Yes, we dropped in "ethnic group" to correct your mistake. No, we didn't start the personal attacks.

Correct my mistake? If i started the thread on race and you correct me with something that is not about race, how is that correcting me?

Jews is not a race and to correct me you say Jews is an ethnic group. So tell me where is the correction to my statement?

 

[Magic Man]

Correct my mistake? If i started the thread on race and you correct me with something that is not about race, how is that correcting me?

Jews is not a race and to correct me you say Jews is an ethnic group. So tell me where is the correction to my statement?

The first time was for clarification: "Yes, Jews are not a race. They are, however, an ethnic group."

After that, it was to correct you because you then insisted that Jews weren't an ethnic group either.

Besides, I haven't come across anyone who thinks Jews are a race, so there's nothing to argue there anyway.

 

[Berachiah Ben Yisrael]

LOL. For one to admit that there is nothing to argue but continues to argue is just batty. LOL :areyoucra

 

[AK4]

The first time was for clarification: "Yes, Jews are not a race. They are, however, an ethnic group."

After that, it was to correct you because you then insisted that Jews weren't an ethnic group either.

Besides, I haven't come across anyone who thinks Jews are a race, so there's nothing to argue there anyway.

Just for argument sake, to call them an ethnic group is also a stretch. To call the whole conglomerate of "jews" an ethnic group is silly. But theres no need for you to respond to this.

So as i pointed out earlier "what did you provide to the thread about the "race" of "jews"?" :slap: