Jews not a race

[Magic Man]

LOL. For one to admit that there is nothing to argue but continues to argue is just batty. LOL :areyoucra

Please read before responding. I said there's nothing to argue about with the topic as stated. However, as has been made clear, AK4 includes "ethnicity" with the "race" in the title, so that a more apt title to the thread would be "Jews are not a race or an ethnicity". There is something to clear up when you claim that they're not an ethnicity, as has been done by both of you repeatedly in this thread.

 

[Magic Man]

Just for argument sake, to call them an ethnic group is also a stretch. To call the whole conglomerate of "jews" an ethnic group is silly. But theres no need for you to respond to this.

No, of course there's no need for me to respond. You'd rather just make your willfully ignorant statements and be free from rebuttal. Since we're in a debate thread, though, I will respond to clear it up for you: Jews are an ethnic group, a claim suported many times over even by many links you provided yourself. The idea that they are not is silly.

So as i pointed out earlier "what did you provide to the thread about the "race" of "jews"?" :slap:

I provided some rational thinking and facts. What did you provide?

 

[AK4]

Please read before responding. I said there's nothing to argue about with the topic as stated. However, as has been made clear, AK4 includes "ethnicity" with the "race" in the title, so that a more apt title to the thread would be "Jews are not a race or an ethnicity". There is something to clear up when you claim that they're not an ethnicity, as has been done by both of you repeatedly in this thread.

Did i include this? Do not most people through the world think of the jews as a race? Just the same way they think of white or black as a race. Here are some terms in the world for you to ponder ---the black race the white race the hispanic race the chinese race THE JEWISH RACE, now did i make these up? Did I include ethnicity or is it already in there?

If i would have put the semites are not a race, boy wouldnt i have heard it!

 

[Magic Man]

Did i include this? Do not most people through the world think of the jews as a race? Just the same way they think of white or black as a race. Here are some terms in the world for you to ponder ---the black race the white race the hispanic race the chinese race THE JEWISH RACE, now did i make these up? Did I include ethnicity or is it already in there?

No, most people throughout the world don't think of Jews as a race. I cleared this up a long time ago. Even those who might claim that Jews are a race usually just mean they're an ethnicity, and will admit that once it's discussed in detail.

Why would I want to ponder those terms? There's no such thing as the Jewish race.

If i would have put the semites are not a race, boy wouldnt i have heard it!

How would that be any different?

 

[Elessar]

Did i include this? Do not most people through the world think of the jews as a race? Just the same way they think of white or black as a race. Here are some terms in the world for you to ponder ---the black race the white race the hispanic race the chinese race THE JEWISH RACE, now did i make these up? Did I include ethnicity or is it already in there?

If i would have put the semites are not a race, boy wouldnt i have heard it!

The last significant group to say "the Jewish race" in any serious fashion were the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, or Nazi Party).

I'm sorry, I know I said I wouldn't be back in this thread, but I have to say this. No one uses the term today except antisemites on the order of the NSDAP, such as the Ku Klux Klan or National Socialist Party of America.

 

[Berachiah Ben Yisrael]

Please read before responding. I said there's nothing to argue about with the topic as stated. However, as has been made clear, AK4 includes "ethnicity" with the "race" in the title, so that a more apt title to the thread would be "Jews are not a race or an ethnicity". There is something to clear up when you claim that they're not an ethnicity, as has been done by both of you repeatedly in this thread.

Besides, I haven't come across anyone who thinks Jews are a race, so there's nothing to argue there anyway.

I see nothing stated above in post 1387063 that says “I said there's nothing to argue about with the topic as stated.” And the title of the thread plainly states “Jews not a race” and says nothing of “Ethnic group or Ethnicity” AK4 wasn’t even the first one to use the word but You where one that continued to drive it home that it is your belief and that is fine if you want to believe in fairytales but not all of us share in that delusional mindset. You did state “so there's nothing to argue there anyway” as based on the OP. My question is if one admits that there is nothing there to argue then why continue to argue? I understand that it is the OP that you say you have no argument with and I agree but to argue anything else is out of bounds because it is outside the scope of the OP. You said “There is something to clear up when you claim that they're not an ethnicity” So go make a thread and argue that until your hair falls out. Now don’t go away mad, just go away. LOL

 

[Berachiah Ben Yisrael]

The last significant group to say "the Jewish race" in any serious fashion were the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, or Nazi Party).

I'm sorry, I know I said I wouldn't be back in this thread, but I have to say this. No one uses the term today except antisemites on the order of the NSDAP, such as the Ku Klux Klan or National Socialist Party of America.

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! :biglaugh:What a bunch of gibberish. I hear it all the time from all kinds of people which none, I assure you, are card carryig KKK or goose stepping Skin Heads. What a bunch of shear disinformation that is so spewed all over this forum.

 

[Magic Man]

I see nothing stated above in post 1387063 that says “I said there's nothing to argue about with the topic as stated.” And the title of the thread plainly states “Jews not a race” and says nothing of “Ethnic group or Ethnicity” AK4 wasn’t even the first one to use the word but You where one that continued to drive it home that it is your belief and that is fine if you want to believe in fairytales but not all of us share in that delusional mindset. You did state “so there's nothing to argue there anyway” as based on the OP. My question is if one admits that there is nothing there to argue then why continue to argue?

OK, I didn't think I'd have to explain this, but here you go:

I said "there's nothing to argue about the topic as stated" because no one is going to argue that Jews are a race. However, clearly the thread title was meant to encompass ethnicity as well as race, sort of a two-for-one package. I said a long time ago that if all he wants to discuss is whether or not Jews are a race, then it's going to be a very short discussion because it's true, but that if he wanted to claim that they aren't an ethnicity, then we'd have a problem. He then continued to argue that they aren't an ethnicity, as he's doing now, and so it continued.

Also, it's quite clear that I'm not the one believing in fairy tales or a delusional mindset, but thanks for the personal attack. Oh, wait, I thought it was us who were doing that?

I understand that it is the OP that you say you have no argument with and I agree but to argue anything else is out of bounds because it is outside the scope of the OP. You said “There is something to clear up when you claim that they're not an ethnicity” So go make a thread and argue that until your hair falls out. Now don’t go away mad, just go away. LOL

It's not out of bounds when it's relevant to the topic in the OP, and the OPer continues to argue it. Thanks, though, we don't need another thread on this, we've already got a couple, and that's a couple too many. If people didn't keep making these crazy claims, we wouldn't need any of these threads.

 

[Magic Man]

What a bunch of shear disinformation that is so spewed all over this forum.

Got that right. But don't worry, we're here to combat it. That's why I'm still here. As soon as you're done spewing, I'll "just go away".

 

[painted wolf]

ok... so maybe my biological training has done me a disservice.

Can anyone tell me what the "white race" "black race" or "Jewish race" is supposed to be?
If indeed they exist there must be some sort of clear definition of what they are right?

wa:do

 

[Elessar]

ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! :biglaugh:What a bunch of gibberish. I hear it all the time from all kinds of people which none, I assure you, are card carryig KKK or goose stepping Skin Heads. What a bunch of shear disinformation that is so spewed all over this forum.

I have never met a Jew who is NOT deeply offended by the assertion of a "Jewish race."

 

[Berachiah Ben Yisrael]

However, clearly the thread title was meant to encompass ethnicity as well as race, sort of a two-for-one package.

I swear, There are more people on here that claim to read the minds of others. Its just a trip. Why don't you charge for this.

You want to believe this gibberish of yours and that is fine but I see no where that ethnicity was inferred. If AK4 says it was then I will back down but otherwise I think your delusional outlook is doing you a great disservice.

Also, it's quite clear that I'm not the one believing in fairy tales or a delusional mindset, but thanks for the personal attack. Oh, wait, I thought it was us who were doing that?

If this is what you take as a personal attack then I do so apologize for the pain and hurt I have so caused you. But most with any sort of brain wouldn't see this as personal but rather hilarity.

It's not out of bounds when it's relevant to the topic in the OP, and the OPer continues to argue it.

But its not relevant to the OP no matter how many times you say that it is. The only one that can make it so is AK4 because he started this thread and has many times stated that it isn't. He argues it because people like you keep breaking the rules and bringing it up. :faint:

 

[Elessar]

I swear, There are more people on here that claim to read the minds of others. Its just a trip. Why don't you charge for this.

You want to believe this gibberish of yours and that is fine but I see no where that ethnicity was inferred. If AK4 says it was then I will back down but otherwise I think your delusional outlook is doing you a great disservice.



If this is what you take as a personal attack then I do so apologize for the pain and hurt I have so caused you. But most with any sort of brain wouldn't see this as personal but rather hilarity.



But its not relevant to the OP no matter how many times you say that it is. The only one that can make it so is AK4 because he started this thread and has many times stated that it isn't. He argues it because people like you keep breaking the rules and bringing it up. :faint:

If you feel anyone is breaking the rules, quit complaining about it and report us. Go on.

 

[Berachiah Ben Yisrael]

Got that right. But don't worry, we're here to combat it. That's why I'm still here. As soon as you're done spewing, I'll "just go away".

Combat that which you continue to pail in by the buckets? lol. You have had nothing to say here but pure manusha. I'll just have to keep shovling it back in your face.

 

[Berachiah Ben Yisrael]

I have never met a Jew who is NOT deeply offended by the assertion of a "Jewish race."

Then you must have lived a very protected life locked away in a basement somewhere.

 

[Berachiah Ben Yisrael]

If you feel anyone is breaking the rules, quit complaining about it and report us. Go on.

If you want to be a rat then by all means have away with it. I choose a higher path.

 

[painted wolf]

Berachiah Ben Yisrael - could you define the "white race", "black race" and "Jewish race" for me?

wa:do

 

[Magic Man]

I swear, There are more people on here that claim to read the minds of others. Its just a trip. Why don't you charge for this.

It's actually pretty simple when he actually states that Jews aren't an ethnicity. There's no mind-reading involved.

You want to believe this gibberish of yours and that is fine but I see no where that ethnicity was inferred. If AK4 says it was then I will back down but otherwise I think your delusional outlook is doing you a great disservice.

Um...have you actually been reading the thread? I'd go back and find the specific comments, but you'd probably ignore it anyway. And again, the use of terms like "delusional" and "gibberish" only make you look bad.

If this is what you take as a personal attack then I do so apologize for the pain and hurt I have so caused you. But most with any sort of brain wouldn't see this as personal but rather hilarity.

Oh, I'm ok with it, which is why I'm not the one who has been crying wolf about it. Again, though, this is only making you look bad. You're welcome to continue, but it detracts from the topic at hand, and only hurts your credibility.

But its not relevant to the OP no matter how many times you say that it is. The only one that can make it so is AK4 because he started this thread and has many times stated that it isn't. He argues it because people like you keep breaking the rules and bringing it up. :faint:

No, AK4 can't magically make things relevant or irrelevant to the OP. They either are or they aren't. As I already told you, I and other clarified that Jews weren't a race but an ethnicity. If he didn't want to go into it, he could have simply said so. Instead, he continually claimed that they were not an ethnicity either. Only when it became clear that he was wrong did he start saying it was off-topic or irrelevant.

It's not breaking the rules to continue a discussion based on and relevant to the OP.

 

[Magic Man]

If you want to be a rat then by all means have away with it. I choose a higher path.

Or, since we're all adults here, we can look at it the mature way: Letting someone else handle the policing since that's what they're there for instead of making it worse yourself.

 

[Berachiah Ben Yisrael]

Berachiah Ben Yisrael - could you define the "white race", "black race" and "Jewish race" for me?

wa:do

Nope, I can't. There is no such things. I know plenty all over the world that use it. Heck, the last time I filled out a job application it asked me what race. It is something that is engrained in the mindsets of just about everyone but it is wrong. There is only one race and that is of the human race. I know you and others disagree but my belief is that there is, also, no ethnic group or ethnicity. We are all sons and daughters of Adam that were created by the word of Yah spoken to that which did the job. A malach which is a spirit and a part of what some here call the so called god head but it is correctly entitled Elohim. All that truly matters to me is that we were all put here for a purpose and that purpose was to serve and obey Yah's word. Thats it. Nothing else. Anything else is just plain old vainity. Its worthless and meaningless. Just like all the claims of who is or who isn't who thay say they are. Oh its been fun sitting back playing around with all of you. I have enjoyed it. Its actually been one of the highlights of my day. It amazes me how little it takes for some to get so bent out of shape over absolutely nothing and I say nothing cause so much of it is just plain garbage that someone else beat into their physches. I have to laugh. It is the best medicine after all. I just hope that most will wake up and see truth for the first time and be able to understand it without all the baggage thay all seem to carry around with them. Life goes on. We all have the grace of time. Lets all do try to get it right for a change.