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Demons Amongest Us

kai

ragamuffin
Do you have any independantly verified proof that demons exist? :flirt: I mean scientifically documented cases that leave no doubt in the mind of the unbiased observer? :rolleyes: Anything at all? :yes:

(PS: It is true that on three occaisions, three different Muslim's have said that I am Satan. I did get a good belly laugh out of that, each time. I don't think any Christians have claimed that but quite a few have told me that I am most surely going to fry in Hell... whatever Hell is -- exactly.) :sad:


do you think Colonel Sanders fries in hell?
 

Monomonk

Straight Gate Seeker
Do you have any independantly verified proof that demons exist? :flirt: I mean scientifically documented cases that leave no doubt in the mind of the unbiased observer? :rolleyes: Anything at all? :yes:

(PS: It is true that on three occaisions, three different Muslim's have said that I am Satan. I did get a good belly laugh out of that, each time. I don't think any Christians have claimed that but quite a few have told me that I am most surely going to fry in Hell... whatever Hell is -- exactly.) :sad:

Well I guess scientist with inquiring minds might make test to see if they can detect
demons, but then it might not be of the highest priority with them. But I am still
waiting for someone to tell me why Americans buy Japanese cars by the untold
millions while the Japanese will not hardly buy any of ours.

monomonk :confused:
 

kai

ragamuffin
Well I guess scientist with inquiring minds might make test to see if they can detect
demons, but then it might not be of the highest priority with them. But I am still
waiting for someone to tell me why Americans buy Japanese cars by the untold
millions while the Japanese will not hardly buy any of ours.

monomonk :confused:


demons aside perhaps they are too big, or they use too much fuel, or the Japanese like to keep it in the family.
 

Charity

Let's go racing boys !
Well I guess scientist with inquiring minds might make test to see if they can detect
demons, but then it might not be of the highest priority with them. But I am still
waiting for someone to tell me why Americans buy Japanese cars by the untold
millions while the Japanese will not hardly buy any of ours.

monomonk :confused:
They have enough demons of their own, why buy ours? :D
 

methylatedghosts

Can't brain. Has dumb.
Well I guess scientist with inquiring minds might make test to see if they can detect
demons, but then it might not be of the highest priority with them. But I am still
waiting for someone to tell me why Americans buy Japanese cars by the untold
millions while the Japanese will not hardly buy any of ours.

monomonk :confused:

I don't know if you've ever been to japan, but their roads aren't all that wide. And they simply don't have space to keep a Hummer in the driveway. U.S. cars are just way too big.

Here, check out a Tokyo street (from wikimedia):
Tokyo_street_vehicals.jpg
 
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Monomonk

Straight Gate Seeker
demons aside perhaps they are too big, or they use too much fuel, or the Japanese like to keep it in the family.

Yeah, I'll say they like to keep it in the family, apparently the Americans do not.
But Chevrolet does sell a small car, oh wait a minute, I think it is made in Korea.
Just can't win.

monomonk
 

Monomonk

Straight Gate Seeker
God doesnt favour america or china/japan...he favours his people amongs those nations and any other nation that has been scattered all over the world.

But monomonk believes that the demonic influence on peoples minds are causing lots and lots...like jellie tots....of money to be taken out of america to the oriental countries because satan needs this to fight against jesus.

Maybe satan favours america in the sense that he likes to bleed her dry. LOL.....and he favours the orientals because they will say 'your wish is my command'.

But we have to wait till monomonk comes back and tells us how satan is planning on rising up agaisnst jesus by using money....

That would be interesting..though im sure few would agree. No one here agrees with anybody else unless they have missed the point. LOL!!!:run:

All this money that the rich think they are collecting for themselves is not theirs,
it is devil money, and the devil will collect. When Christ returns the rich will go into
high gear and spend every last dime of their money building armies and weapons.
Yes I know, this sounds ridiculous, who can fight God with tanks, but that is what
Satan is planing, the Bible indicates it such.

monomonk
 

Heneni

Miss Independent
All this money that the rich think they are collecting for themselves is not theirs,
it is devil money, and the devil will collect. When Christ returns the rich will go into
high gear and spend every last dime of their money building armies and weapons.
Yes I know, this sounds ridiculous, who can fight God with tanks, but that is what
Satan is planing, the Bible indicates it such.

monomonk

How do you think that satan will get the rich to give their money to him? If they hold on to it now..why would they let go of it then?

PS: Dont worry about speaking your mind.
 

Monomonk

Straight Gate Seeker
How do you think that satan will get the rich to give their money to him? If they hold on to it now..why would they let go of it then?

PS: Dont worry about speaking your mind.

What mind? Oh never mind. Satan knows how to make the evil rich and the rightgious poor. It has always been this way, Satan makes those rich who serve him. I am talking here about the Anti-Christ, they will not know that when they use their money to build up armaments and armies that it is Satan who is causing them to do this, they have demons that influence them. They do not believe in demons. They will gather together the largest army ever assembled on earth to fight Christ, and the
blood of them shall run to the horses bridle (in the ditches I would think). And if we do not join that army we will be killed, so be prepared to head for the hills.

monomonk
 

blackout

Violet.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Monomonk
All this money that the rich think they are collecting for themselves is not theirs,
it is devil money, and the devil will collect. When Christ returns the rich will go into
high gear and spend every last dime of their money building armies and weapons.
Yes I know, this sounds ridiculous, who can fight God with tanks, but that is what
Satan is planing, the Bible indicates it such.

monomonk

How do you think that satan will get the rich to give their money to him? If they hold on to it now..why would they let go of it then?

PS: Dont worry about speaking your mind.

"Money" is not something natural, or intrinsic, or of intrinsic value...
to be "used up".

Money is CREATED out of thin air,
literally grown on trees,
backed by absolutely nothing...
by the SUPER elite banking families.

Are they Satan incarnate?
 

Heneni

Miss Independent
What mind? Oh never mind. Satan knows how to make the evil rich and the rightgious poor. It has always been this way, Satan makes those rich who serve him. I am talking here about the Anti-Christ, they will not know that when they use their money to build up armaments and armies that it is Satan who is causing them to do this, they have demons that influence them. They do not believe in demons. They will gather together the largest army ever assembled on earth to fight Christ, and the
blood of them shall run to the horses bridle (in the ditches I would think). And if we do not join that army we will be killed, so be prepared to head for the hills.

monomonk

I agree that satan knows how to make the evil rich and the righteous poor. But then is america righteous? Or are the people of god considered to be righteous? And they are all over the world. But god also said that the wealth of the wicked will be transferred to the righteous. Was he talking about money or was he talking about power over evil. The anti-christ is organised religion, without god.

You might recall that the bible says that the anti-christ is suppose to bring peace. He preaches peace peace...when there is no peace at all. They themselves make the kingdom suffer violence. God is not involved in any of their activity though they use his name to get ahead and excercise power over the masses.The anti-christ speaks about christ all the time...yet knows him not, and even oppose him, though the world is fooled into thinking that he is doing god a favour, or doing him justice.


Satan has declared war..it is against the righteous. Its against the children of god. He has already been defeated, he is just trying to ruin that which is left. He has lost his kingdoms, they were given to jesus, but gaining back the territory satan had, is an ongoing process. And the ground that needs to be regained is not physical ground but rather the ground of our hearts.

If there is going to be a physical natural showdown between jesus and satan it will be awesome! I think id like to be a fly on the wall to see jesus kick some booty. But this is a war that is fought in the hearts of men. And it is just as real and just as violent and there are many causualties. Just look how many people around you have given the ground of their heart to the evil one? OH THOUSANDS! But...lets not forget, that one righteous person, can send a thousand heading for the hills! Not people that is ...but demons. However...you cannot send demons fleeing when that which they are in have invited them in. And only when the person has rejected the demon, do they leave. As far as their influence on you...they can only have influence on you if you allow them too...but you can allow them to have influence on you, without you having a clue they have gained entry into you. So then...it is possible that satan has been bleeding america dry, by using demonic influence. But i still dont really see why satan...who is really smart...will think that jesus, who cannot be destroyed will even flinch at the sight of a tank. :shrug:

Heneni
 
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Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Well I guess scientist with inquiring minds might make test to see if they can detect
demons, but then it might not be of the highest priority with them. But I am still
waiting for someone to tell me why Americans buy Japanese cars by the untold
millions while the Japanese will not hardly buy any of ours.

monomonk :confused:

The problem is market based, not magic based.
 

Heneni

Miss Independent
"Money" is not something natural, or intrinsic, or of intrinsic value...
to be "used up".

Money is CREATED out of thin air,
literally grown on trees,
backed by absolutely nothing...
by the SUPER elite banking families.

Are they Satan incarnate?

This earth, you might know by now, is hell. At least that is what i believe. What can a man do here without money? Can they buy food? Can they have a roof over their heads? Unless you steal what you need, you cant make a living without it.

And this is the currency of hell. Money. While on this planet, you can hardly survive if you dont have it. There is still the odd little tribe here and there, which dont use money to survive. But they are few and far between. Money does make the world go round.

So i can understand that if a child of god, who has rejected the world, wont live according to its standards, then satan will be completely unwilling to make them prosper. That is why jesus said....


, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'
44"They also will answer, `Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'
45"He will reply, `I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'
46"Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

In varying degrees the wicked are rich and the righeous are poor.

But the wicked is rich is wealth, but poor in grace. The righteous are poor, but rich in grace.

Jesus became poor so that we may become rich. He wasnt talking about earthly riches, but rather he became poor in grace...god had to show him no mercy and had to have his son killed. So jesus had to become poor in grace so that we might become rich in it.

However having said that...earthly riches that god gives to you, is not a snare. So then...if we have riches given to us by the world, and not by god, it will prove to be a snare to us.

This is why jesus told the young rich man...to go and sell all he had and to follow him. He had to get rid of that which would be a snare to him, and if he followed christ, he would have become rich in grace, and if god so chose he would have given him riches back, but that would have been riches that were blessed by the lord.
 

Heneni

Miss Independent
It certainly seems as if a Demon has possessed John McCain's Campaign Manager.

He he he. This is the irony about satans kingdom...can they really stand together? Are they able to work together? Does the concept of unity ever really enter their minds?

Satans kingdom is doomed to fail. Not so much because god comes and swings the iron sceptor, but because pride and selfishness rarely allows anybody else to take the limelight.

God was smart when he said worship him and him alone. Give him all the glory and all the honour...that way we wont be clamouring for it ourselves, and devide the kingdom. A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand. But will fall.

Heneni
 

rojse

RF Addict
Can I be a demon too, plz? And what's with Christian Conservatives thinking America is somehow more special or closer to God than other nations?

Make that a thread, Father Heathen. At least there will be more than two replies (a generous estimate).
 

rojse

RF Addict
I agree that satan knows how to make the evil rich and the righteous poor. But then is america righteous? Or are the people of god considered to be righteous? And they are all over the world. But god also said that the wealth of the wicked will be transferred to the righteous.

And America is one of the richest countries because...
 
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