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Yep, I was totally wrong to worry about escalation between US and Iran

Discussion in 'North American Politics' started by Kangaroo Feathers, Jun 20, 2019.

  1. Kangaroo Feathers

    Kangaroo Feathers Hardline moderate

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    Iran Revolutionary Guard claims to shoot down US drone
    The Sydney Morning Herald
    9 hours ago · A US aircraft was shot down in the Persian Gulf amid rising tensions between Iran and the United States. Iran Revolutionary Guard claims to shoot down US drone Iran claims to have shot down

    (You aren't wrong.. Iran is playing with fire.)
     
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    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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    Also in the news, Ameristan is considering using nukes again.
    US hints it could use nuclear weapons once again to create 'decisive results' in wars in chilling new Pentagon report
    Nuclear weapons: experts alarmed by new Pentagon 'war-fighting' doctrine
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/
     
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    Shooting down a drone is a "major provocation"?
     
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    Nowhere Man Bompu Zen Man with a little bit of Bushido.

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    To some people it is.
     
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    You can't threaten shipping in international water like the Persian Gulf.
     
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    Revoltingest Greased up & ready for action!
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    When we're looking for one, it could be spun as such.
    We could shoot down another Iranian airliner in retaliation, eh.
     
  9. Kangaroo Feathers

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    It is if you're looking for an excuse.
     
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    What part of any of this do you think Trump, let alone Bolton, are doing for the benefit of the Middle East??
     
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    Access thru the Persian Gulf to the Indian Ocean is VITAL to US interests as well as those of the Europeans and oil producers.

    China is buying a lot of crude from Saudi Arabia.
     
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    Its bigger than just the Middle East.....
     
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    Closing the Gulf to the Chinese might be a neat little benefit.
     
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    Kangaroo Feathers Hardline moderate

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    Um, yeah, I know, but I'm responding to what you said.
     
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    Have you thought this thru?

    The Iranian leadership are like the rapture ready crowd.. They are looking for the Mahdi. They're nuts.
     
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    I would agree, if that's what I believed was actually happening.
     
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    Meanwhile:

    Today in the Kashmir 4 Indian troops were killed by separatists.

    In Nigeria 3 Boko Haram suicide bombers killed at least 30 people.

    11 people were killed and 20 injured by twin explosions in Mogadishu, Somali claimed by al-Shabaab.
     
  18. Kangaroo Feathers

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    Obtusely missing the point, THAT will get us out of this mess!
     
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    Road Warrior Seeking the middle path..

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    "Yet the poor fellows think they are safe! They think that the war is over! Only the dead have seen the end of war."
    - George Santayana

    The fact remains that, although there is still conflict in the world, the number of those who have been harmed by it has dropped greatly. Two main reasons for war are due to the control of both resources and geography. For that reason, we, as a species, still have a long ways to go. The current focus is on the ME. I thought South America would be a major place of confrontation, but that has mostly worked itself out. Resolving conflicts in Africa will take another century or more, given there isn't some new form of tech which will reduce the problems. The sheer size of Africa is a problem in itself. Mercator projection maps are deceiving in that regard since it makes Africa looking only slightly larger than the US.

    War-global deaths.jpg
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    Speaking of missing the point. President Trump has many good reasons to not want a war with Iran and many for wanting people to think he does and to talk about the prospect. Talk of a possible war with Iran helps his re-election prospects, for one. Now some people can’t even see these things. While others have such deep derangement about Trump that they are gullible dupes, doing Trump a favor without realizing it! These poor schmucks have Trump living in their heads 24/7.

    Anyways, it isn’t like when Obama sent troops and bombed Syria killing thousands in total opposition to the government of that country. But he was a Democrat. So, he got a pass.
     
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