I recently read about a guy who is an ''evangelist'' and pastor of a church, that he has a long history of recent sexual misconduct allegations, some of which he admitted to, but many he claims are lies about him. Would you attend a church where the preacher was being accused by quite a few women, of sexual misconduct? Why or why not?
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Would you go to a church where the preacher has been accused of sexual misconduct?
- Thread starter Deidre
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Okay, that makes sense. Suppose the pastor admitted to doing some of the things he's accused of, and then said he has since repented? But, the pastors feel that he should step down and not preach anymore...anywhere.
McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
As long as said person was in the church I would not only refuse to go myself, but would refuse to allow my children to go.
I still wouldn't go.
No, he broke the qualifications of being a preacher, deacon, overseer or whatever they're called. He's finished.
1 timothy 3:2 Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
Qualifications for Deacons
…In the same way, the women must be dignified, not slanderers, but temperate and faithful in all things. A deacon must be the husband of but one wife, a good manager of his children and of his own household. For those who have served well as deacons acquire for themselves a high standing and great confidence in the faith that is in Christ Jesus.…
1 Timothy 3:8
Deacons likewise must be dignified, not double-tongued or given to much wine or greedy for money.
1 timothy 3:2 Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife, temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
Qualifications for Deacons
…In the same way, the women must be dignified, not slanderers, but temperate and faithful in all things. A deacon must be the husband of but one wife, a good manager of his children and of his own household. For those who have served well as deacons acquire for themselves a high standing and great confidence in the faith that is in Christ Jesus.…
1 Timothy 3:8
Deacons likewise must be dignified, not double-tongued or given to much wine or greedy for money.
Hmm. This is a tough question. If a leader of a local kindred was accused of sexual misconduct and refused to admit guilt or otherwise rectify the situation, I would not be part of that group. They probably would be removed from such a position by the other members, anyway. If they have admitted their guilt, served time for it, made up for it as best they can, I would attend but it's probably best for them not to be in leadership positions.
McBell
mantra-chanting henotheistic snake handler
Or moved to a different Parrish...
How about...
Would you continue to let a person baby sit your kids even if you hear from multiple sources that the person is a child molester?
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But, it's an accusation versus court process. A person's silence does not presume guilt or innocence.
No he should not ever be allowed into the pulpit again. I have a huge problem not with adults having consemsual sex but I do have a problem with pastors abusing their position having consensual sex with the congregation. If the dude wants to have consensual sex that's fine just don't be a minister be a car salesman which really that is all he really ever was at the end of the day just a bs artist. Now if I wanted to have consensual sex with a lot of females being a minister would be a totally awesome place for that to happen until caught!!! Very vouyeristic. What a great place to be a rock star, and some women finding that sexy. It's all so damn dysfunctional it makes my head swim.
That's a bit different from a Rabbi in my opinion.
Sexual misconduct accusations are being thrown left right and centre now. The truth is that very few victims actually come forward, especially children. As a victim of CSA, I know about this all too well. Anytime a child accuses an adult of sexual abuse, it is generally true. You don't need multiple sources.
But an adult accusing other adults can often be false. I know a lot of people don't like to hear that, but it happens. So if it's a Rabbi, he's innocent until he has been proven guilty. The OP wasn't about children specifically. If we're talking about a Rabbi who has been accused of, say, adultery, then it must be proven. Just because several people say a thing happened, it doesn't mean it did. What if, for some reason, this group doesn't like the Rabbi and want him removed? What if it were an isolated incident that was blown all out of proportion by gossip, as so often happens? I wouldn't abandon a Rabbi for something unproven like that.
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Well, of course the law should be brought in if needed.
Perfect! He set it up and got busted.
Such bs. It's all so easy to not have a problem they teach it in seminary. If their is a problem it's Intentionally been created by him to hide and play. He is a joke this whole thing is avoidable.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
Unveiled Artist
Veteran Member
Yes. Everyone sins. Christians are not perfect. I feel christians should not go to a church if they expect a pastor to be perfect. Id assume one would attend church to see everyone is a child of god. If a pastor sins, he isnt christ. Why put him on a pedalstool because he has fallen? That sounds like ego.
I see it in the Church. People dont go to priests that abuse kids. If a person is part of the body of christ and sins it hurts the whole body. In all churches everyone should helpneach other back to be one body not break it off by leaving a church by another persons sin. A persons title and role of the church does not exnay one of sinning. One is growi g in christ.
At least thats what I experienced i the Church. I see no other denomni differently.
What sort of "sexual misconduct"? Consensual affairs? Sexual assault? Something else?
Riders
Well-Known Member
Well if its against the law,no I wouldn't go, if it were molestation or rape no, or exposing yourself in conduct, anything against the law, if he admits to it then I would not feel safe.
But then again in uU churches some people think of anything between consenting adults as noones business but theres.
I wouldn't leave over an affair, or someone who has a porn addiction, someone who had a prostitute who was 18 or older, nO I wouldn't hold that against them.
Some have addiction issues, dos tuff like drugs and sex at the same time getting a high going to sex parties, then no I wont hold that against them.
I would only stop going if child rape or molestation or unwanted advances had been made sexual assault that type of thing.
But then again in uU churches some people think of anything between consenting adults as noones business but theres.
I wouldn't leave over an affair, or someone who has a porn addiction, someone who had a prostitute who was 18 or older, nO I wouldn't hold that against them.
Some have addiction issues, dos tuff like drugs and sex at the same time getting a high going to sex parties, then no I wont hold that against them.
I would only stop going if child rape or molestation or unwanted advances had been made sexual assault that type of thing.
Yes it should. It's just accusations alone can hurt a person's reputation. This is the political game.